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Post by sawyeral on Oct 26, 2024 19:13:10 GMT -5
Great work by booth. Spent the offseason adding two players that sabotage our entire team and traded away 6 draft picks for the right to draft a dude that got hurt in preseason. Then gave $200 mill to the corpse of Jamal Murray I mean, I don't think we can pin the Holmes injury on him. The rest, though... yikes. Not pinning that on him…just adding it to the list of terrible offseason happenings. The only thing he did that was even remotely shrewd was convince Ag to opt in prior to his extension. Everything else could’ve been accomplished by anyone on this forum working half days at KSE.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 26, 2024 19:22:35 GMT -5
I thought Murray was actually really good up until the last 2 minutes of the game. It was Murray mostly on Powell as Powell was going off.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 26, 2024 19:24:56 GMT -5
Murray couldn't guard Powell. Murray turns it over on a 4 on 5 break that gave LAC the lead. Murray misses Jok on wide open 3 and instead takes hero shot. Just awful.
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Post by Dante on Oct 26, 2024 19:49:05 GMT -5
It's funny/sad that LAC 3rd? option that is payed less than any of our "big 4" is able to put up 40 playing with starters or with bench. While 2 of our 3 max players will NEVER be able to put that type of performance without Jokic on the floor. Major issue with putting so much money into Jamal/MPJ/AG is that all 3 are HEAVY depended to produce WITH Jokic on the floor. Our bench always sucked and only looked somewhat decent with Monte/Plumdog in 19/20 because we never had a player that is able to be an offense by himself on any given night outside of Jokic.
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Post by passtheballquick on Oct 26, 2024 19:59:05 GMT -5
Jokic got to make his FTs so at end of day he gets some blame. But being real, Murrays defense was putrid 4th quarter. MPJ was awful on both ends. AG doesn't give us enough on offense for what we pay him. Russ and Saric need to be better. But until our max contract guys step up I'm going to put blame on them. Starters came back into game with lead. Then we couldn't get any stops. You're blaming Jokic for 2 missed FT's (out of 8) on a night where he hit 7 3's on 60% fg lol. You're one of those who expects Jokic to score 50 points every night while shooting 80% fg and 100% from ft's. Well, I have a bad news for you: that player has not been born yet
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 26, 2024 19:59:16 GMT -5
It's funny/sad that LAC 3rd? option that is payed less than any of our "big 4" is able to put up 40 playing with starters or with bench. While 2 of our 3 max players will NEVER be able to put that type of performance without Jokic on the floor. Major issue with putting so much money into Jamal/MPJ/AG is that all 3 are HEAVY depended to produce WITH Jokic on the floor. Our bench always sucked and only looked somewhat decent with Monte/Plumdog in 19/20 because we never had a player that is able to be an offense by himself on any given night outside of Jokic. We now have 4 max players. Even though AG max years don't start for 2 more years he's still going to get that. Which is just nuts for a guy who half the time scores 10 or less. So 3 out if 4 max guys can't step up. Overpaid.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 26, 2024 20:00:15 GMT -5
Jokic got to make his FTs so at end of day he gets some blame. But being real, Murrays defense was putrid 4th quarter. MPJ was awful on both ends. AG doesn't give us enough on offense for what we pay him. Russ and Saric need to be better. But until our max contract guys step up I'm going to put blame on them. Starters came back into game with lead. Then we couldn't get any stops. You're blaming Jokic for 2 missed FT's (out of 8) on a night where he hit 7 3's on 60% fg lol. You're one of those who expects Jokic to score 50 points every night while shooting 80% fg and 100% from ft's. Well, I have a bad news for you: that player has not been born yet Hes still the top guy and is at FT line so yeah he takes some blame. Not all of it. Probsbly not even most of it. But some.
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Post by passtheballquick on Oct 26, 2024 20:00:22 GMT -5
Mental midget needs to go in a hurry.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 26, 2024 20:02:07 GMT -5
Jokic got to make his FTs so at end of day he gets some blame. But being real, Murrays defense was putrid 4th quarter. MPJ was awful on both ends. AG doesn't give us enough on offense for what we pay him. Russ and Saric need to be better. But until our max contract guys step up I'm going to put blame on them. Starters came back into game with lead. Then we couldn't get any stops. You're blaming Jokic for 2 missed FT's (out of 8) on a night where he hit 7 3's on 60% fg lol. You're one of those who expects Jokic to score 50 points every night while shooting 80% fg and 100% from ft's. Well, I have a bad news for you: that player has not been born yet I don't expect him to score 40 a night. I thought he had a good first game and he scored 16. But when your best player who is a 80% FT shooter is at the kine and misses that's going to take some blame.
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Post by Ring on Oct 26, 2024 20:03:22 GMT -5
Jokic got to make his FTs so at end of day he gets some blame. But being real, Murrays defense was putrid 4th quarter. MPJ was awful on both ends. AG doesn't give us enough on offense for what we pay him. Russ and Saric need to be better. But until our max contract guys step up I'm going to put blame on them. Starters came back into game with lead. Then we couldn't get any stops. You're blaming Jokic for 2 missed FT's (out of 8) on a night where he hit 7 3's on 60% fg lol. You're one of those who expects Jokic to score 50 points every night while shooting 80% fg and 100% from ft's. Well, I have a bad news for you: that player has not been born yet Needs to make his FTs at the end of the game but yeah...how about someone on the bench other than Strawther makes a basket? How about 1 of AG/MPJ don't shoot like complete s**t. There is way too much money on this team given to guys who aren't consistent. That's the problem. You have no idea what type of game you're getting from Murray, MPJ and AG every single night. How the f**k are they all getting paid 35-50M a year?
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Post by passtheballquick on Oct 26, 2024 20:06:45 GMT -5
You're blaming Jokic for 2 missed FT's (out of 8) on a night where he hit 7 3's on 60% fg lol. You're one of those who expects Jokic to score 50 points every night while shooting 80% fg and 100% from ft's. Well, I have a bad news for you: that player has not been born yet Hes still the top guy and is at FT line so yeah he takes some blame. Not all of it. Probsbly not even most of it. But some. None! When you score 40 on 54% fg and you hit 7 3's on 60% you deserve zero blame even if you miss 2 ft's in the last second. Second game of the season and he had to play 37 minutes. Mpj is the major problem of this team. Lost on both ends of the floor, numb hands for anything but wide open shooting and still carrying max contract. Hard to believe that something like that is even possible let alone that he's part of the team that I cheer for
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Post by Dante on Oct 26, 2024 20:07:54 GMT -5
It's funny/sad that LAC 3rd? option that is payed less than any of our "big 4" is able to put up 40 playing with starters or with bench. While 2 of our 3 max players will NEVER be able to put that type of performance without Jokic on the floor. Major issue with putting so much money into Jamal/MPJ/AG is that all 3 are HEAVY depended to produce WITH Jokic on the floor. Our bench always sucked and only looked somewhat decent with Monte/Plumdog in 19/20 because we never had a player that is able to be an offense by himself on any given night outside of Jokic. We now have 4 max players. Even though AG max years don't start for 2 more years he's still going to get that. Which is just nuts for a guy who half the time scores 10 or less. So 3 out if 4 max guys can't step up. Overpaid. It's an organisation problem overall. From Josh to Calvin to Malone. Everyone got cute and way to Jokic reliant to the point that when he is not on the floor (i call that a bench), no matter what combination of players you put on the floor, it's like they are all G-league players and have zero clue what to do on offense without Jokic. When i say that Jokic is our Sun, moon, orbit, galaxy i think i am to low on praising him...You hit a jackpot at 41st overall and instead of bringing proffesional FO/Coaches/Players to maximize one of the best players to ever touch the basketball, you get cute/cocky and start rewarding bunch of middle packed players/coaches/managers while milking that golden cow until it dies.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 26, 2024 20:08:02 GMT -5
You're blaming Jokic for 2 missed FT's (out of 8) on a night where he hit 7 3's on 60% fg lol. You're one of those who expects Jokic to score 50 points every night while shooting 80% fg and 100% from ft's. Well, I have a bad news for you: that player has not been born yet Needs to make his FTs at the end of the game but yeah...how about someone on the bench other than Strawther makes a basket? How about 1 of AG/MPJ don't shoot like complete s**t. There is way too much money on this team given to guys who aren't consistent. That's the problem. You have no idea what type of game you're getting from Murray, MPJ and AG every single night. How the f**k are they all getting paid 35-50M a year? Agree with everything here. I'm super concerned honestly about the money we gave AG. Giving that much money to a guy who scores 10 points or less as often as he does is a huge risk. I understand the "fit" but with the explosion of 3 point shooting I'm beginning to question his fit.
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Post by passtheballquick on Oct 26, 2024 20:12:28 GMT -5
You're blaming Jokic for 2 missed FT's (out of 8) on a night where he hit 7 3's on 60% fg lol. You're one of those who expects Jokic to score 50 points every night while shooting 80% fg and 100% from ft's. Well, I have a bad news for you: that player has not been born yet I don't expect him to score 40 a night. I thought he had a good first game and he scored 16. But when your best player who is a 80% FT shooter is at the kine and misses that's going to take some blame. He shot 75% from FT line tonight. 80Ft shooter shots 75% one night and then 85% the other night. That's the law of average. I'd like him to be 100% FT shooter but we need to be realistic
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Post by game on Oct 26, 2024 20:12:33 GMT -5
Thank God we avoided that second apron.
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Post by Ring on Oct 26, 2024 20:18:26 GMT -5
Thank God we avoided that second apron. People literally got conned into thinking that was about flexibility to make the team better. Lol. Even if they re-signed KCP this team would still look atrocious. Put the blame on Calvin and the front office. The 2 guys they signed have so far been as bad as anyone you imagine.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 26, 2024 20:19:57 GMT -5
I don't expect him to score 40 a night. I thought he had a good first game and he scored 16. But when your best player who is a 80% FT shooter is at the kine and misses that's going to take some blame. He shot 75% from FT line tonight. 80Ft shooter shots 75% one night and then 85% the other night. That's the law of average. I'd like him to be 100% FT shooter but we need to be realistic This will be my last response on this. When you go to the FT line at the end if the game that FT has more pressure and more importance because you know what missssong it will do. Missing a FT earlier in a game still allows you to recover from it. He went into a pressure situation and missed that's on him. Does that negate how bad MPJ Murray Russ AG and others played absolutely not. Would we have even had the chance to tie if not for Jok. Absolutely not. So he gets credit for putting us in that situation and takes some blame for missing the FTs.
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Post by game on Oct 26, 2024 20:21:53 GMT -5
Thank God we avoided that second apron. People literally got conned into thinking that was about flexibility to make the team better. Lol. Even if they re-signed KCP this team would still look atrocious. Put the blame on Calvin and the front office. The 2 guys they signed have so far been as bad as anyone you imagine. KCP has plenty of flaws, but starting two non-shooters with Jokic is something I would expect a child to know is a terrible idea. No team in the league is punting on spacing like this stupid team. Then you have two more non-shooters in your bench four, which makes rotations absolutely impossible. It's actually like the team was assembled by somebody who is purposely trying to make Jokic retire early. The second apron is definitely a cheap ass Kroenkes thing, don't get me wrong. Assembling this jackass crew of guys who can't shoot around an all-time creator is all Booth. Fire Calvin Booth.
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Post by passtheballquick on Oct 26, 2024 20:59:57 GMT -5
He shot 75% from FT line tonight. 80Ft shooter shots 75% one night and then 85% the other night. That's the law of average. I'd like him to be 100% FT shooter but we need to be realistic This will be my last response on this. When you go to the FT line at the end if the game that FT has more pressure and more importance because you know what missssong it will do. Missing a FT earlier in a game still allows you to recover from it. He went into a pressure situation and missed that's on him. Does that negate how bad MPJ Murray Russ AG and others played absolutely not. Would we have even had the chance to tie if not for Jok. Absolutely not. So he gets credit for putting us in that situation and takes some blame for missing the FTs. This is my last post to this as well. Had he hit those 2 Ft's he'd be 100% from the FT line. You're expectations are just unrealistic. Nobody shoots 100% from the ft line let alone bigs. People that are expecting 100% in anything on earth are unrealistic
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Post by GBG on Oct 26, 2024 21:21:34 GMT -5
Bench him for Cancar and chew him out. That’s what I’d do if I were Malone. You playing Cancar at the 5 or are we already going to AG 2C? Let them share duties. This isn’t a permanent change, but meant to coach up a slacker who has been underperforming since he put a Nuggets jersey on in Abu Dahbi.
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