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Post by Ring on Oct 30, 2024 15:52:50 GMT -5
Honestly not even the first or second thing I would have guessed lol
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 30, 2024 19:15:20 GMT -5
Honestly not even the first or second thing I would have guessed lol Lmao But it was funny af, and sad as a nuggets diehard
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Post by game on Oct 31, 2024 12:40:29 GMT -5
youtu.be/bv2GK05yNzw?feature=sharedVery Nuggets/Jokic friendly media has completely turned on them (starts at 1:14), and while you can quibble with some things, the easiest thing in the world to see is they were a bad shooting team last year from 3 and purposely got worse this year. The lack of shooting is an absolute disgrace around a creator like Jokic. Jokic going nuclear as a scorer is the most obvious possible message to everybody that he knows they don't have shooting. Fire Calvin Booth immediately. This year may be fucked but somebody who gives a s**t about more than pet draft projects and popping off to Kevin O'Connor about a team he basically inherited winning the title needs to take the wheel immediately to start figuring out a plan.
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Post by JB on Oct 31, 2024 13:03:38 GMT -5
Simmons is being overly pessimistic on our trade options. Paul George would've been a Nugget for that package he deemed untradeable if we had any draft capital.
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Post by famicommander on Oct 31, 2024 13:05:32 GMT -5
Simmons is being overly pessimistic on our trade options. Paul George would've been a Nugget for that package he deemed untradeable if we had any draft capital. But we don't have any draft capital. And trading for 34 year old Paul George is a monumentally stupid idea in the first place. That contract in Philly is going to age like milk.
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Post by game on Oct 31, 2024 13:20:12 GMT -5
Not having any draft capital is kind of the issue. If you were flush with picks meh contracts are way less of an issue. And man, oh man, if only they had the opportunity to keep somebody at $20ish million who could be used to salary match. Shame they didn't have any such opportunities.
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Post by JB on Oct 31, 2024 13:24:06 GMT -5
Zeke Nnaji and his 8m per season contract will not be the hold up for any potential deal involving MPJ, unless we're trading with a fellow tax payer team.
just as a point of comparison, Rob Dillingham (8th pick of the 2024 draft) is making slightly less than Zeke this season.
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Post by game on Oct 31, 2024 13:26:08 GMT -5
Nobody wants Zeke. Or MPJ at his price. So if you're combining them, you have to take back another damaged asset and hope you're buying low. That's why Simmons mentioned Lavine, who the Bulls have been begging teams to take.
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Post by game on Oct 31, 2024 13:31:22 GMT -5
Another really funny Boothism that anybody working in the NBA should know better is the "we'll take old college players - they're more ready to help right away".
Or... as data has suggested forever, these older college players who didn't pop off until they had a significant age/maturity advantage actually aren't talented enough to be good NBA players.
Seems timely NBA ready Jalen Pickett is back down to the G-League today. I can't imagine how his post up at halfcourt and try to back all the way to the rim offense hasn't worked in the NBA or even NBA Summer League.
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Post by GBG on Oct 31, 2024 14:06:07 GMT -5
Another really funny Boothism that anybody working in the NBA should know better is the "we'll take old college players - they're more ready to help right away". Or... as data has suggested forever, these older college players who didn't pop off until they had a significant age/maturity advantage actually aren't talented enough to be good NBA players. Seems timely NBA ready Jalen Pickett is back down to the G-League today. I can't imagine how his post up at halfcourt and try to back all the way to the rim offense hasn't worked in the NBA or even NBA Summer League. If not for Booth, we wouldn’t have a championship under our belt. TC built the team, but Booth finalized the two key deals that took us over the top. Your calling for Booth firing is just silly. If it makes you feel better, keep doing it, but Booth is going nowhere at least until next summer. Josh and Stan run the franchise and Booth is just one member of the front office. He doesn’t make all the decisions, but three of his five late first and second round picks have been good. Pickett is one of the bad ones, as is Tyson. But I am glad Booth drafted Strawther, Watson, and Braun. Your memory seems selective, you only want to look at the bad.
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Post by famicommander on Oct 31, 2024 14:10:26 GMT -5
Sending down just Pickett?
Stupid. They should send down Trey and Tyson too. They aren't going to help the main squad this year so they might as well be playing somewhere.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 31, 2024 15:55:19 GMT -5
Simmons is being overly pessimistic on our trade options. Paul George would've been a Nugget for that package he deemed untradeable if we had any draft capital. But we don't have any draft capital. This is almost the worst And the copers of NT defend being under the 2md apron that we will have flexibility to make trades. But if trades was the motivation why the f**k did he dump all our future picks?
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 31, 2024 15:56:08 GMT -5
Not having any draft capital is kind of the issue. If you were flush with picks meh contracts are way less of an issue. And man, oh man, if only they had the opportunity to keep somebody at $20ish million who could be used to salary match. Shame they didn't have any such opportunities. Game, set, match
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 31, 2024 15:56:28 GMT -5
Zeke Nnaji and his 8m per season contract will not be the hold up for any potential deal involving MPJ, unless we're trading with a fellow tax payer team. just as a point of comparison, Rob Dillingham (8th pick of the 2024 draft) is making slightly less than Zeke this season. Zeke Nnaji lmao
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 31, 2024 15:58:41 GMT -5
Another really funny Boothism that anybody working in the NBA should know better is the "we'll take old college players - they're more ready to help right away". Or... as data has suggested forever, these older college players who didn't pop off until they had a significant age/maturity advantage actually aren't talented enough to be good NBA players. Seems timely NBA ready Jalen Pickett is back down to the G-League today. I can't imagine how his post up at halfcourt and try to back all the way to the rim offense hasn't worked in the NBA or even NBA Summer League. If not for Booth, we wouldn’t have a championship under our belt. No way you can know this. Odds are you are wrong. Unless you mean without Booth we likely have two rings
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Post by game on Oct 31, 2024 23:48:36 GMT -5
Another really funny Boothism that anybody working in the NBA should know better is the "we'll take old college players - they're more ready to help right away". Or... as data has suggested forever, these older college players who didn't pop off until they had a significant age/maturity advantage actually aren't talented enough to be good NBA players. Seems timely NBA ready Jalen Pickett is back down to the G-League today. I can't imagine how his post up at halfcourt and try to back all the way to the rim offense hasn't worked in the NBA or even NBA Summer League. If not for Booth, we wouldn’t have a championship under our belt. TC built the team, but Booth finalized the two key deals that took us over the top. Your calling for Booth firing is just silly. If it makes you feel better, keep doing it, but Booth is going nowhere at least until next summer. Josh and Stan run the franchise and Booth is just one member of the front office. He doesn’t make all the decisions, but three of his five late first and second round picks have been good. Pickett is one of the bad ones, as is Tyson. But I am glad Booth drafted Strawther, Watson, and Braun. Your memory seems selective, you only want to look at the bad. This team won a title under a year and a half ago, has the best player in the world who creates open looks for teammates at will, and has actively burned all their assets to have a team so devoid of shooting it would make a 90s team blush. Honestly, this is the downside of having such a low maintenance star. I'm not a fan of LeBron holding teams hostage to go all in every season, but clearly he's right and I'm not. The Kroenkes are cutting egregious financial corners in a title window and Booth is not building a coherent roster to play around Jokic. So, in my opinion, acting like it's not the time to be bold and urgent in a season Jokic turns 30 is silly. But if it makes you feel better, keep doing it.
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Post by scooter on Nov 1, 2024 1:48:30 GMT -5
If not for Booth, we wouldn’t have a championship under our belt. TC built the team, but Booth finalized the two key deals that took us over the top. Your calling for Booth firing is just silly. If it makes you feel better, keep doing it, but Booth is going nowhere at least until next summer. Josh and Stan run the franchise and Booth is just one member of the front office. He doesn’t make all the decisions, but three of his five late first and second round picks have been good. Pickett is one of the bad ones, as is Tyson. But I am glad Booth drafted Strawther, Watson, and Braun. Your memory seems selective, you only want to look at the bad. This team won a title under a year and a half ago, has the best player in the world who creates open looks for teammates at will, and has actively burned all their assets to have a team so devoid of shooting it would make a 90s team blush. Honestly, this is the downside of having such a low maintenance star. I'm not a fan of LeBron holding teams hostage to go all in every season, but clearly he's right and I'm not. The Kroenkes are cutting egregious financial corners in a title window and Booth is not building a coherent roster to play around Jokic. . It’s been 8 years since Lebron won a title in a normal season, so it’s not so clear his way has worked so well. Especially considering that Lebron himself has remained a legitimately great player. A lot of the mistakes were made during the tenure of Connelly, not Booth. It was then that the Nuggets squandered some draft assets and in addition, signed Porter to an extremely ill-advised contract when there was zero pressure to do so, given that not extending him then would have just left him a restricted free agent a year later (which turned out to be after he missed another season). It’s really that contract — which would have been at most half as sizeable if the team had just waited — that has created the financial pressures. Sign Porter in 2022 (a year after he was extended) to a fair market value contract and the Nuggets could have retained KCP. Even so, the Nuggets’ roster is not far away from what it needs to be. And from all appearances, ownership is paying attention. A timely move this season and the team will be in good shape.
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Post by GBG on Nov 1, 2024 2:23:38 GMT -5
This team won a title under a year and a half ago, has the best player in the world who creates open looks for teammates at will, and has actively burned all their assets to have a team so devoid of shooting it would make a 90s team blush. Honestly, this is the downside of having such a low maintenance star. I'm not a fan of LeBron holding teams hostage to go all in every season, but clearly he's right and I'm not. The Kroenkes are cutting egregious financial corners in a title window and Booth is not building a coherent roster to play around Jokic. . It’s been 8 years since Lebron won a title in a normal season, so it’s not so clear his way has worked so well. Especially considering that Lebron himself has remained a legitimately great player. A lot of the mistakes were made during the tenure of Connelly, not Booth. It was then that the Nuggets squandered some draft assets and in addition, signed Porter to an extremely ill-advised contract when there was zero pressure to do so, given that not extending him then would have just left him a restricted free agent a year later (which turned out to be after he missed another season). It’s really that contract — which would have been at most half as sizeable if the team had just waited — that has created the financial pressures. Sign Porter in 2022 (a year after he was extended) to a fair market value contract and the Nuggets could have retained KCP. Even so, the Nuggets’ roster is not far away from what it needs to be. And from all appearances, ownership is paying attention. A timely move this season and the team will be in good shape. It’s a good point, and people who just want to complain about Booth, out of context of the pre-Booth history, would be well-advised to reconsider their positions.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Nov 1, 2024 10:03:17 GMT -5
This team won a title under a year and a half ago, has the best player in the world who creates open looks for teammates at will, and has actively burned all their assets to have a team so devoid of shooting it would make a 90s team blush. Honestly, this is the downside of having such a low maintenance star. I'm not a fan of LeBron holding teams hostage to go all in every season, but clearly he's right and I'm not. The Kroenkes are cutting egregious financial corners in a title window and Booth is not building a coherent roster to play around Jokic. . It’s been 8 years since Lebron won a title in a normal season, so it’s not so clear his way has worked so well. Especially considering that Lebron himself has remained a legitimately great player. A lot of the mistakes were made during the tenure of Connelly, not Booth. It was then that the Nuggets squandered some draft assets and in addition, signed Porter to an extremely ill-advised contract when there was zero pressure to do so, given that not extending him then would have just left him a restricted free agent a year later (which turned out to be after he missed another season). It’s really that contract — which would have been at most half as sizeable if the team had just waited — that has created the financial pressures. Sign Porter in 2022 (a year after he was extended) to a fair market value contract and the Nuggets could have retained KCP. Even so, the Nuggets’ roster is not far away from what it needs to be. And from all appearances, ownership is paying attention. A timely move this season and the team will be in good shape. The biggest mistake TC did was Murray getting injured. I guess that’s not a mistake. How many rings would Booth have with Murray not playing? Zero
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Post by nuggetshipster on Nov 1, 2024 10:04:52 GMT -5
There was no way on earth that Booth wouldn’t have maxed MPJ when TC did. Stupid take
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