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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 13, 2024 2:52:17 GMT -5
Maybe Zeke Nnaji can up his tradevalue with a hot start from deep or something
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Jul 13, 2024 5:41:54 GMT -5
Just woke up and saw the news. Damn. That sucks. Hope DaRon is doing well mentally. That has to be a taxing first "NBA experience". Get well and we'll see you when you are healthy.
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Post by Ring on Jul 13, 2024 7:57:21 GMT -5
Maybe Zeke Nnaji can up his tradevalue with a hot start from deep or something The same Zeke that shot 40% from 3 his rookie year, 46% his sophomore year and then said "Hey, my jump shot is broken. Let's fix it." Get that guy the f**k off the team. Just insane to be that dumb. Guy had a beautiful stroke and changed it to one that not only looks like complete s**t, it's way less effective.
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Post by JB on Jul 13, 2024 8:09:04 GMT -5
Ring, I highly doubt Zeke decided one day to brick shots and wash himself out of the rotation. him changing his shot form was not intentional.
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Post by Ring on Jul 13, 2024 9:07:44 GMT -5
“I changed my form,” Nnaji said. “It’s not going to happen overnight. It’s a process, and I’m happy with the results. I knew the numbers were going to go down. That was inevitable, but overall, the way I’ve changed my shot is going to help me shoot the ball much better.”
Nnaji spent the offseason working with Nuggets shooting coach Mike Penberthy. They tried to expedite Nnaji's release after noticing there was a slight pause at the top of his previous shot.
“It was definitely difficult at first, because I shot it that way my whole life. But after about a couple of months, you kind of start to get it. Then, it’s about repetition and just building that muscle memory, creating those good habits that you need to sustain your new shot,” Nnaji said.
“My rhythm feels a little bit better.”
Sounds like a non-injury related decision to me.
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Post by JB on Jul 13, 2024 9:14:01 GMT -5
yes, the KSE machine likes to present alternate facts to the media. that's well documented.
the same thing happened to Fultz. shoulder injury fucked up his shot.
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Post by scooter on Jul 13, 2024 9:20:01 GMT -5
I only saw the first quarter or so and caught the news later here. It’s brutal. Terrible for Holmes and problematic for the Nuggets as he seems like an NBA talent and this will set his development back at least a year on a team that still has no long term depth at C with Saric on a 1+PO. And of course there is always the possibility this will make it difficult for Holmes to ever maximize his athleticism. On the flip side, its early summer and hopefully he’ll be 100% by this time next year.
Summer league games are so chaotic the whole thing is sorta fun and sorta ridiculous. It doesn’t provide much information as to how productive players can be in a normal team environment other than a bit of information about guys’ ability to handle unpredictability, and some raw physical abilities/skills. It flatters one on one players and is unflattering for guys who are much better at playing good team basketball. That said, while I recognize that Pickett is a “system player” it seems obvious to me his handle isn’t good enough for an NBA PG. Despite Malone’s urging to play faster, he just can’t and played a big role in the team getting into too many late clock situations. I’m sure everyone saw the same thing.
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Post by wicked3line on Jul 13, 2024 9:27:25 GMT -5
well, look on a bright side... its not like Malone would play a rookie That was my thought as Malone was going to lean on his vets anyway as I fully expect a three-man 4/5 rotation of Jokic-AG-Saric and occasionally MPJ moving into the 4 spot when both AG and Jokic are out with scraps to anybody else. Even watching Holmes play last night before his achilles injury, didn't convince me he was going to crack the main rotation much. Assuming Booth gets a legit backup PG (Westbrook or somebody not named Pickett), that PG along with Strawther, Watson, and Saric will be the main rotation bench players.
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Post by scooter on Jul 13, 2024 9:30:55 GMT -5
There is more to Nnaji’s limitations than just not hitting as many outside shots as we’d like. He doesn’t have a good feel for the game or play like an instinctual athlete (yesterday I watched England vs. Spain in the semis of the European football championship tournament, and one of Spain’s goals was scored by a 16 year old — and that’s a sport that requires constant decision-making and this is the highest and most intense level of the world’s most popular sport and with a huge and rabid fanbase and intense media scrutiny, so there is some contrast for you). Nnaji still sometimes looks panicky and has a very difficult time reconciling playing hard on defense but slowing down and being in control on offense. After 4 years of NBA experience, he doesn’t have much handle or passing game. I don’t know if that’s because his hands are not very good or because he’s still nervous out there.
In any event, if there is no decent trade for Nnaji, Holmes’ injury makes it more likely we’ll see if anything has significantly changed with him.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 13, 2024 9:40:46 GMT -5
I only saw the first quarter or so and caught the news later here. It’s brutal. Terrible for Holmes and problematic for the Nuggets as he seems like an NBA talent and this will set his development back at least a year on a team that still has no long term depth at C with Saric on a 1+PO. And of course there is always the possibility this will make it difficult for Holmes to ever maximize his athleticism. On the flip side, its early summer and hopefully he’ll be 100% by this time next year. Summer league games are so chaotic the whole thing is sorta fun and sorta ridiculously. It doesn’t provide much information as to how productive players can be in a normal team environment other than a bit of information about guys’ ability to handle unpredictability, and some raw physical abilities/skills. It flatters one on one players and is unflattering for guys who are much better at playing good team basketball. That said, while I recognize that Pickett is a “system player” it seems obvious to me his handle isn’t good enough for an NBA PG. Despite Malone’s urging to play faster, he just can’t and played a big role in the team getting into too many late clock situations. I’m sure everyone saw the same thing. That's why all the Pickett needed minutes I've never understood. I hated the pick when they made it, and have consistently said I think Alexander is a better prospect( doesn't mean he'll make it either).
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Post by bignuggets on Jul 13, 2024 10:32:02 GMT -5
Such a freak injury. Sucks so bad. But man it wasn’t even a weird play, just a normal jump and landing. Not good, hope it’s not something that lingers.
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Post by famicommander on Jul 13, 2024 11:19:40 GMT -5
Every time Zeke has the ball he looks surprised to discover there's a hoop above his head.
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Post by wicked3line on Jul 13, 2024 11:21:33 GMT -5
In any event, if there is no decent trade for Nnaji, Holmes’ injury makes it more likely we’ll see if anything has significantly changed with him. Concur as I highly doubt Zeke is traded now, which maybe that's for the best if his trade value can be increased. Don't get me wrong as almost all of the PF and C minutes are going to Jokic-Gordon-Saric-MPJ but there are going to be 2-3 minutes (maybe more with injuries) around the start of the 2nd/4th quarters where Jokic-AG-MPJ are all out and Malone has to put somebody in next to Saric. Maybe that's Watson or Cancar in some games but against bigger teams that likely means Zeke now that Holmes is out for the season. Not much but maybe that 4-6 mpg gives Zeke a chance to show something worthy of his contract.
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Post by famicommander on Jul 13, 2024 11:27:20 GMT -5
You people are nuts. Zeke isn't even going to see the court, Cancar is. Zeke couldn't even get minutes last year when we had no Saric or Vlatko.
He's not going to increase his trade value.
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Post by famicommander on Jul 13, 2024 14:52:19 GMT -5
Lost in everything else that went down yesterday, we were supposed to be looking for a third two-way.
I sure as hell didn't see anything noteworthy from the 3 non-roster guys that played.
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Post by GBG on Jul 13, 2024 15:34:01 GMT -5
Lost in everything else that went down yesterday, we were supposed to be looking for a third two-way. I sure as hell didn't see anything noteworthy from the 3 non-roster guys that played. Third 2-way just as easily could come from another team’s SL squad. Holmes injury sucks, but Malone wouldn’t have played him much more than 500 minutes this season anyway. Zeke trade possibility is not diminished. Maybe he stays but if a deal is to be had, I still think he’s gone.
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Post by passtheballquick on Jul 13, 2024 15:50:13 GMT -5
Although it would be really nice to have a good bench, at the end it won't matter at all. If we get to the end of season healthy and rested, Jokic and Murray will beat anybody on earth. 3 weeks of rest before PO's means more to our team than any other team in nba. We chase seeding to the last game as we did this year, we'll fold down early in an unattractive fashion lol. Rest>>>>>seeding
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Post by famicommander on Jul 13, 2024 15:53:27 GMT -5
Although it would be really nice to have a good bench, at the end it won't matter at all. If we get to the end of season healthy and rested, Jokic and Murray will beat anybody on earth. 3 weeks of rest before PO's means more to our team than any other team in nba. We chase seeding to the last game as we did this year, we'll fold down early in an unattractive fashion lol. Rest>>>>>seeding Only Hakeem's Rockets and Bill's last ride Celtics ever won a championship from a seed lower than 3, and both of those teams were the defending champions.
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Post by JB on Jul 13, 2024 15:57:56 GMT -5
this is going to trigger Ring but I'm quite confident the Nuggets would have won the championship in the Mavs playoff bracket, especially considering Ant doesn't know how to conserve his energy and crashed out at the end of the second round.
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Post by passtheballquick on Jul 13, 2024 16:17:00 GMT -5
Although it would be really nice to have a good bench, at the end it won't matter at all. If we get to the end of season healthy and rested, Jokic and Murray will beat anybody on earth. 3 weeks of rest before PO's means more to our team than any other team in nba. We chase seeding to the last game as we did this year, we'll fold down early in an unattractive fashion lol. Rest>>>>>seeding Only Hakeem's Rockets and Bill's last ride Celtics ever won a championship from a seed lower than 3, and both of those teams were the defending champions. Those times are long gone. If you look at those times you won't find any 8 seed playing in the finals at all. Let alone 2 years in a row a not top 4 team in the finals. Celtics and Nuggets didn't win titles because of seeding but because they were by far the best teams. Last year Boston was the only team that could challenge Nuggets and this year Nuggets were the only team that could challenge Celtics. We folded due to rest and last year Buttler was rested enough to beat Celtics alone. The way you look at nba champions you should also look at the conference champions. In order to win it all you first need to win conference and the last several years showed that for winning conference seeding didn't matter at all
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