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Post by passtheballquick on Jul 13, 2024 16:32:35 GMT -5
this is going to trigger Ring but I'm quite confident the Nuggets would have won the championship in the Mavs playoff bracket, especially considering Ant doesn't know how to conserve his energy and crashed out at the end of the second round. Which in retrospect means we played on the dumbest card possible considering how the season treated us (how many minutes our starters had to play during regular season) And when it comes to history you should look no further but at yourself. We may be the only team in the nba history that lost 2 times to a lower seed when looking at any 4 consecutive PO's seasons (I don't count bubble). And that happened to the same players telling you that those players may have needed something other than the hc lol
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 13, 2024 16:41:06 GMT -5
Although it would be really nice to have a good bench, at the end it won't matter at all. If we get to the end of season healthy and rested, Jokic and Murray will beat anybody on earth. 3 weeks of rest before PO's means more to our team than any other team in nba. We chase seeding to the last game as we did this year, we'll fold down early in an unattractive fashion lol. Rest>>>>>seeding Only Hakeem's Rockets and Bill's last ride Celtics ever won a championship from a seed lower than 3, and both of those teams were the defending champions. Yeah it's crazy to think we would let ourselves slide to 5 or 6 seed and think we could win it all. IF and this is a big IF we are at a top seed we could theoretically cruise some down the stretch. But you ain't winning crap if your not good enough to be a top 3 seed.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 13, 2024 16:42:26 GMT -5
Only Hakeem's Rockets and Bill's last ride Celtics ever won a championship from a seed lower than 3, and both of those teams were the defending champions. Those times are long gone. If you look at those times you won't find any 8 seed playing in the finals at all. Let alone 2 years in a row a not top 4 team in the finals. Celtics and Nuggets didn't win titles because of seeding but because they were by far the best teams. Last year Boston was the only team that could challenge Nuggets and this year Nuggets were the only team that could challenge Celtics. We folded due to rest and last year Buttler was rested enough to beat Celtics alone. The way you look at nba champions you should also look at the conference champions. In order to win it all you first need to win conference and the last several years showed that for winning conference seeding didn't matter at all They won title because they were best teams in the league all regular season. We didn't lose last year cause we weren't rested we lost because Murray was injured during playoffs and teams around us got better.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 13, 2024 16:44:58 GMT -5
this is going to trigger Ring but I'm quite confident the Nuggets would have won the championship in the Mavs playoff bracket, especially considering Ant doesn't know how to conserve his energy and crashed out at the end of the second round. Which in retrospect means we played on the dumbest card possible considering how the season treated us (how many minutes our starters had to play during regular season) And when it comes to history you should look no further but at yourself. We may be the only team in the nba history that lost 2 times to a lower seed when looking at any 4 consecutive PO's seasons (I don't count bubble). And that happened to the same players telling you that those players may have needed something other than the hc lol Murray wouldnt of been ajy more healthy in the DAL pathway then he was in the actual one.
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Post by passtheballquick on Jul 13, 2024 18:27:58 GMT -5
Those times are long gone. If you look at those times you won't find any 8 seed playing in the finals at all. Let alone 2 years in a row a not top 4 team in the finals. Celtics and Nuggets didn't win titles because of seeding but because they were by far the best teams. Last year Boston was the only team that could challenge Nuggets and this year Nuggets were the only team that could challenge Celtics. We folded due to rest and last year Buttler was rested enough to beat Celtics alone. The way you look at nba champions you should also look at the conference champions. In order to win it all you first need to win conference and the last several years showed that for winning conference seeding didn't matter at all They won title because they were best teams in the league all regular season. We didn't lose last year cause we weren't rested we lost because Murray was injured during playoffs and teams around us got better. Hmm that is not true though. Murray was injured but in game 7, what was the only game that actually mattered, he was the best player on the floor. 35 points on 48% fg. We died chasing seeding for only one purpose and that purpose was to have a hc advantage in game 7 of any series and that hc let us down twice in the last 4 years (nba record). Murray and Jokic scored 67 points on like 50%fg and assisted on the other 23 points. That is historic you like it or not. We died in a historic fashion as the other 3 starters were shot because of rest. Murray takes 0 blame for game 7 loss
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Post by famicommander on Jul 13, 2024 21:33:26 GMT -5
Glad to see Peyton Watson is with the squad at Summer League supporting the guys.
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Post by inyourmind on Jul 13, 2024 22:31:59 GMT -5
Which in retrospect means we played on the dumbest card possible considering how the season treated us (how many minutes our starters had to play during regular season) And when it comes to history you should look no further but at yourself. We may be the only team in the nba history that lost 2 times to a lower seed when looking at any 4 consecutive PO's seasons (I don't count bubble). And that happened to the same players telling you that those players may have needed something other than the hc lol Murray wouldnt of been ajy more healthy in the DAL pathway then he was in the actual one. Yup. Rest is a tough ask when your trying to go back to back. Murray took lots of stretches off anyways. That being said when your team can't play a tough 4-5 minute stretch to prevent a historic choke job your not winning s**t. When something like that happens it'll never be one thing. A bunch of stuff held the Nuggets back.
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Post by inyourmind on Jul 13, 2024 22:36:23 GMT -5
Brutal about the Holmes injury. Nuggets needed all the dart throws they can get. Likely wasn't going to he a big piece this season but you never know. Sucks for the kid.
SL basketball is absolutely brutal lol glorified scrimmage but nice to have some basketball I guess. Not sure you can take anything away from it.
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Post by AbdulJabber on Jul 13, 2024 23:39:51 GMT -5
Brutal about the Holmes injury. Nuggets needed all the dart throws they can get. Likely wasn't going to he a big piece this season but you never know. Sucks for the kid. SL basketball is absolutely brutal lol glorified scrimmage but nice to have some basketball I guess. Not sure you can take anything away from it. I'm probably a little biased right now, but it's hard to see the utility in it. I'd be tempted to pull Strawther and Alexander.
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Jul 13, 2024 23:43:21 GMT -5
Brutal about the Holmes injury. Nuggets needed all the dart throws they can get. Likely wasn't going to he a big piece this season but you never know. Sucks for the kid. SL basketball is absolutely brutal lol glorified scrimmage but nice to have some basketball I guess. Not sure you can take anything away from it. I'm probably a little biased right now, but it's hard to see the utility in it. I'd be tempted to pull Strawther and Alexander. What about Pickett and Tyson..
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Post by AbdulJabber on Jul 14, 2024 2:12:37 GMT -5
I'm probably a little biased right now, but it's hard to see the utility in it. I'd be tempted to pull Strawther and Alexander. What about Pickett and Tyson.. They can stay...forever.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 14, 2024 5:19:31 GMT -5
this is going to trigger Ring but I'm quite confident the Nuggets would have won the championship in the Mavs playoff bracket, especially considering Ant doesn't know how to conserve his energy and crashed out at the end of the second round. Not sure if you actually believe this. Pro sports isnt a script lmao We could do the exact same bracket again and win a ring. Wolves could sweep Mavs in round 2 and be just as fresh for us.
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Post by JB on Jul 14, 2024 9:30:13 GMT -5
Kel'el Ware after 3 Summer League games: 18.3 points, 6.7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks, 57% from the field (65% from 2)
Alexa, play I Tried by Bone-Thugs-n-Harmony
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Post by scooter on Jul 14, 2024 9:38:44 GMT -5
I'm probably a little biased right now, but it's hard to see the utility in it. I'd be tempted to pull Strawther and Alexander. What about Pickett and Tyson.. I still think it’s possible for Tyson to make it. We probably won’t see him at his best in this chaotic environment, which flatters one on one players. I haven’t changed my mind about Pickett — his handle sucks and he’s not big enough to transition to playing another position, as we’ve seen recently with Dante Exum (for example) who was drafted as a PG and is now a bench 2/3. Exum is 6’6” with long arms.
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Post by famicommander on Jul 14, 2024 10:09:17 GMT -5
What about Pickett and Tyson.. I still think it’s possible for Tyson to make it. We probably won’t see him at his best in this chaotic environment, which flatters one on one players. I haven’t changed my mind about Pickett — his handle sucks and he’s not big enough to transition to playing another position, as we’ve seen recently with Dante Exum (for example) who was drafted as a PG and is now a bench 2/3. Exum is 6’6” with long arms. Tyson is significantly worse than you realize, unfortunately. Imagine MPJ. Now imagine everything he does, he does drastically worse. Worse shooting, worse handles, worse defense, worse passing, worse rebounding, worse basketball IQ, worse instincts, worse footwork. And he has no natural athleticism and he doesn't play hard. That's Tyson at his best. As bad as Pickett is, Pickett was SUBSTANTIALLY better at the G-League level than Tyson was last year. Let that sink in.
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Post by scooter on Jul 14, 2024 10:57:37 GMT -5
You’ve been very clear about your POV about Tyson. But he shot 40.8% on 9.2 three attempts per game in the G league, with a 61% TS%. He’s a very good shooter. IMO, Pickett has no strong attribute on which to lean.
There are plenty of late bloomers who have had NBA careers, including current players Hauser, Robinson, Kleber (he was averaging 9 points/game in the German league at age 25) and others including our old friend Torrey Craig. The odds are against Tyson getting good enough to help at the NBA level, but they are not 0 (which is how I see it with Pickett).
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Post by famicommander on Jul 14, 2024 13:03:13 GMT -5
You’ve been very clear about your POV about Tyson. But he shot 40.8% on 9.2 three attempts per game in the G league, with a 61% TS%. He’s a very good shooter. IMO, Pickett has no strong attribute on which to lean. There are plenty of late bloomers who have had NBA careers, including current players Hauser, Robinson, Kleber (he was averaging 9 points/game in the German league at age 25) and others including our old friend Torrey Craig. The odds are against Tyson getting good enough to help at the NBA level, but they are not 0 (which is how I see it with Pickett). You didn't watch the actual games. I did. He only shot well in games where someone like Gillespie was force-feeding him the ball. He needs a ridiculous volume of shots to hit them with any consistency and it's not worth taking the offense out of its flow to make that happen. He is a certified volume chucker with zero other assets. Torrey Craig murderized the G-League. He was the best player on the court every time he played there. Hunter Tyson wasn't the best player on the court even when he was the only NBA roster guy on the court. He is, without question, a drastically worse basketball player than Braxton Key. However good or bad you believe Braxton Key to be, Hunter Tyson will never be half that level. He has no athleticism, he has no dog, he has no feel for the game.
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Post by JB on Jul 14, 2024 13:23:53 GMT -5
Torrey was in his late 20s who made the rounds around the NBL which gave him unfair advantage of teaching him how to be the best player on a team full of scrubs. hard to hold Hunter to that standard.
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Post by famicommander on Jul 14, 2024 14:49:28 GMT -5
Torrey was in his late 20s who made the rounds around the NBL which gave him unfair advantage of teaching him how to be the best player on a team full of scrubs. hard to hold Hunter to that standard. I'm not the one who brought up Craig. I'm holding Tyson to the standard that I held Jack White, Braxton Key, Jay Huff, Collin Gillespie, and Jalen Pickett to when they all played in the G-League. Tyson is the worst player among that group by a wide gulf. Against other G-League guys, he was the worst of that group. By a lot. I watched the games and I'm telling you, this guy is not good at the G-League level and he doesn't care.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 14, 2024 14:58:59 GMT -5
In your opinion. One thing i love about basketball is that two people can look at the game very differently.
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