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Post by aussie on Jul 8, 2024 1:10:52 GMT -5
Welcome back Vlatko
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Post by bignuggets on Jul 8, 2024 4:07:09 GMT -5
Gonna see a drop in FT% going from KCP to Braun too.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 8, 2024 4:24:52 GMT -5
I agree it's definitely a gamble, but I also think it was probably the right decision. Keeping KCP at that number would've made it hard to retain Gordon next summer. Part of me thought it'd have been worthwhile just to keep him and then trade him down the line if needed, but then trades when in the 2nd apron become nearly impossible anyway. Spending that kind of money on a 5th starter is tough, especially when the bench has already been such an issue and KCP was basically a nonfactor in the playoffs as it was. Having to rely completely on veterans taking the minimum to improve is a massive gamble, and we'll see how well Boston manages it going forward. They have no depth in their frontcourt already, and Horford is 38 years old and Porzingis is incredibly injury prone. All these 2nd apron restrictions are brand new and we don't fully know how much of an effect it'll actually have in practice. But the fact that so many FOs seem worried enough about it to alter the way they would normally operate says quite a bit to me. All valid points. I do think it's possible we look back in a couple of months and are happy with the choice. KCP had a tough playoffs and CB has alot of traits that should make him thrive as a starter. If the KCP situation was a one off than I don't think it'd be as concerning. The thing that makes me nervous is how it seems to be a consistent theme lately. If you had to pick one spot on the roster to make a gamble than CB starting for KCP is the best bet at this point. I just don't like how so far they've gambled with the rest of the guards. Once/If the Nuggets get a guard than I think it'll be easier to relax. If the Nuggets vision is Strawer/Pickett/CB as the guards behind Murray than that's a wildly cocky move by them. At that point I think you just pay KCP and fight it out with Malone about the minutes if you want the young guys getting a look. Deal with the 2nd apron issue later on and just focus on winning another ring next year. If the gamble fails the Nuggets deserved to get smoked. I really like CB and think he can thrive with more responsibility but if the opposite happens and Strawther doesn't take a step and Watson plateaus were straight up fucked. Zero expectations for Pickett lol Even Westbrook with his inability to shoot is going to come with some risks. Nuggets just need to sign/trade for a legitimate NBA rotation guard and the offseason looks less ugly IMO. anything is possible but i think its more likely we look back at this in a few year like what could have been |
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Post by somborshuffle on Jul 8, 2024 4:32:30 GMT -5
Gonna see a drop in FT% going from KCP to Braun too. Only on 1.5 FTA per game. So that's a non issue. Braun should get to the line more often. He needs to drive to the hoop a lot more than KCP - and hopefully improve his finishing - to add a point of difference. He might not shoot the 3 as well as KCP but there are other things he can do better. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 8, 2024 4:43:34 GMT -5
Anyone trying to talk themselfs into Braun being better than KCP is delusional.
And if thats the case arent we even more fucked financially?
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 8, 2024 4:44:33 GMT -5
Should have dumped MPJ instead IMO. I have sources telling me he will sit in a wheelchair any minute now
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Post by duh88 on Jul 8, 2024 4:59:28 GMT -5
Anyone trying to talk themselfs into Braun being better than KCP is delusional. And if thats the case arent we even more fucked financially? Delusion is watching KCP's defense on Anthony Edwards and Booker - and then watching Braun's defense on Ant - and then still deciding that KCP is our path to the next championship. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 8, 2024 5:12:36 GMT -5
We all know Malone, Booth, Jokic, Murray all would prefer KCP being on the team and starting if money wasnt a thing
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Post by sawyeral on Jul 8, 2024 9:24:16 GMT -5
Should have dumped MPJ instead IMO. I have sources telling me he will sit in a wheelchair any minute now Huh? |
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Post by game on Jul 8, 2024 9:41:16 GMT -5
I've also seen Christian Braun attempt to dribble and shoot and it's mostly rough. He's a hustle player. For the majority of the season last year I thought he was pretty bad, because he was scared to shoot. Whole different ballgame starting. If he can't shoot 40% at volume this starting unit will be significantly worse. Time will tell. What if Braun or Porter or Watson get hurt? Strawther is an unknown and they have zero other wings. Russ as the 2? A big playing on the wing? Woof. I bolded your one comment/prediction as it doesn’t make any sense. You are holding CB to a higher standard than KCP. Pope never shot “at volume”. Sure, he was a 40% 3PT shooter, but at very low usage. The starting five should be as good or better with CB instead of KCP, even if CB shoots like he did last year at similar volume to last season. That’s because starting unit will have even more size and youthful energy on defensive end with CB starting over KCP. The trouble spot is the bench, specifically backcourt shooting. As it stands, and assuming RW is added, we might have the worst shooting backcourt bench players, collectively, in the NBA. Until Strawther shows me he can shoot more than 35% from 3, I will stand by this opinion. The lack of 3PT shooting in general is a real team weakness, but it emanates with the bench now that CB is pencilled in as starting 2. Not adding a real marksman guard who’s playable for postseason this summer after losing KCP is negligent, if this doesn’t change. Let's see Braun double his 3PAs to match KCP's volume, and do it against starters. Also getting over 70% from the free throw line would be nice from your starting 2 guard. Strawther is a massive question mark. The bench wing situation is malpractice by Calvin Booth. If any of these guys aren't healthy, or Braun/Strawther prove not ready for the leap to starter/rotating respectively, you've left Malone with no other options. Better be right. If both Braun and Strawther don't absolutely pop, you've left no alternatives. Risky f***ing game in Jokic's prime. |
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Post by JB on Jul 8, 2024 10:38:00 GMT -5
Braun is not Watson or Zeke, he can shoot but hesitates on attempting semi-open 3s. this will be fixed with reps and a certain sloth-like 3xMVP yelling at him to not think and shoot when he's open.
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Post by GBG on Jul 8, 2024 11:40:10 GMT -5
Braun isn’t the problem. His PER and WS/48 were each higher than KCP’s. Only his TS% was worse, 55% versus 60%. Keep in mind Braun played most of his minutes without Jokic and KCP played most of his minutes alongside MV3. I expect CB will see a pop in all his numbers except usage while playing as a starter.
The problem is Strawther. We just don’t know. Is he an NBA rotation player, or will he be out of league after his rookie contract? We need a vet shooter at the 2, badly, just in case Straw doesn’t work out as planned.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 8, 2024 11:56:22 GMT -5
Braun isn’t the problem. His PER and WS/48 were each higher than KCP’s. Only his TS% was worse, 55% versus 60%. Keep in mind Braun played most of his minutes without Jokic and KCP played most of his minutes alongside MV3. I expect CB will see a pop in all his numbers except usage while playing as a starter. The problem is Strawther. We just don’t know. Is he an NBA rotation player, or will he be out of league after his rookie contract? We need a vet shooter at the 2, badly, just in case Straw doesn’t work out as planned. How was Murray or Jokic or AG WS stats with Braun compared with KCP |
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Post by TNF on Jul 8, 2024 12:33:30 GMT -5
We need an outside shooter, I agree.
Biggest need left right now is a solid PG. If that turns out to be Westbrook, the need for an outside shoot who can also pass the ball goes up. CG was that guy, but idiot Calvin didn't act.
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Post by TNF on Jul 8, 2024 12:37:18 GMT -5
If he could learn to dribble, Pickett is that guy. The guy can shoot just fine.
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Post by bignuggets on Jul 8, 2024 13:58:21 GMT -5
Gonna see a drop in FT% going from KCP to Braun too. Only on 1.5 FTA per game. So that's a non issue. Braun should get to the line more often. He needs to drive to the hoop a lot more than KCP - and hopefully improve his finishing - to add a point of difference. He might not shoot the 3 as well as KCP but there are other things he can do better. True, but different offensive games. Gonna see Braun drive and get fouled a lot more. Hopefully Braun can get his % closer to 80 this year. |
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Post by JB on Jul 8, 2024 14:54:16 GMT -5
well, Zubac got into a brawl at a nighclub and as club security tried to break up the fight, Calvin's FA prize Dario Saric decided to tag himself in and fight the bouncers, which ended in Dario getting put to sleep in a chokehold maneuver. that's one way to celebrate getting signed to the Nuggets.
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Post by game on Jul 8, 2024 15:02:54 GMT -5
Better sign another big for Saric insurance. No telling if the 6 backup bigs they already have are sufficient depth behind Jokic/Gordon.
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Jul 8, 2024 15:21:46 GMT -5
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Post by JB on Jul 8, 2024 15:25:52 GMT -5
Jokic's brothers
Dario
the Euros are bringing the Thuggets back
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