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Post by Dante on Jul 1, 2024 10:23:03 GMT -5
Hefty extensions and good vibes given to players whom haven't earned it yet, have fucked us tremendously. As they said on the podcast. Overpaying MPJ by 10-15 million. Overpaying Jamal by at least 5 million. Giving player options left and right instead of team options. Giving "bet" deals on players that havent prove a thing (Zeke). Consider all of the above we could have easily kept KCP without going in the 2nd apron + the cap space to sign proven vets on MLE/TPMLE etc. The line of communication and decision making from Josh Kroenke to Calvin Booth to Michael Malone is an utter embarrassment for any NBA team yet for a championship team with the 3 time MVP/Best player in the world in his prime. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 10:27:59 GMT -5
Hefty extensions and good vibes given to players whom haven't earned it yet, have fucked us tremendously. As they said on the podcast. Overpaying MPJ by 10-15 million. Overpaying Jamal by at least 5 million. Giving player options left and right instead of team options. Giving "bet" deals on players that havent prove a thing (Zeke). Consider all of the above we could have easily kept KCP without going in the 2nd apron + the cap space to sign proven vets on MLE/TPMLE etc. The line of communication and decision making from Josh Kroenke to Calvin Booth to Michael Malone is an utter embarrassment for any NBA team yet for a championship team with the 3 time MVP/Best player in the world in his prime. I can agree with this enough. If we had even just paid Porter 5 mill a year less, that would of helped. Let's look at where we'd be right now if we'd done the following very reasonable things. 1.) Not ever signed Reggie 2.) Not given Zeke that contract OR had traded him for a 2nd round pick when he was on his rookie contract. 3.) Let MPJ do explore what he was worth then just sign him to that. |
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 10:32:25 GMT -5
I'm okay with Westbrook and Saric in. Then see what we can do at the trade deadline Neither of these moves has anything to do with KCP leaving. Westbrook is the same money as Reggie and Saric is a minimum level player. Both those things can happen with KCP re-signed. If they repeat last year's weird overpay of Reggie with Saric and give him more than a minimum, it's just another laughable example of pissing money away on the margins instead of negotiating shrewdly, and then using those lack of funds as an excuse to later lose starting players. Jokic is 29. The next 2-3 years are the only years that matter in franchise history as far as going all-in. There's no reason to accept that they're not doing it. I'll say it again with the second apron - unless you can cite which aspects of it are things they will actually do if not prohibited from doing so, it's a very convenient fake competitive excuse to lower spending. They're universally getting crushed right now nationally and they deserve it. |
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Post by Dante on Jul 1, 2024 10:44:27 GMT -5
Funny and sad thing at the same time is that i bet Jokic wouldnt mind to play with 4 rookies in the starting lineup and deffer to Russel Westbrook at 36 in PnR actions.
As good as Jokic is as a player, it's a double edged sword because he is so unselfish that he makes every player worth way more than he is. So, in a weird way we can blame Jokic to a certain degree for our role players getting overpaid lol.
Jokic had his best year when he was surrounded by bunch of scrubs and was forced to be and more importantly ACT as the alfa of the team. I dont mind him deffering and coasting in the regular season, but if come playoff time he once again let Jamal play the hero ball and be perfectly fine with Jamal ignoring him out of PnR/PnP actions we are fucked no matter the roster around those 2.
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 10:47:33 GMT -5
reminder that Tim was the one that handed out max contracts like breath mints and Murray's extension does not effect the Nuggets this summer as he has one of more year his previous contract on the books.
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Post by Butterman on Jul 1, 2024 11:02:37 GMT -5
We will be champions next year.
Now dry and powder your vaginas
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 11:10:58 GMT -5
completely forgot about Gordon Hayward and the "mutual interest" between both parties. is he the July surprise speculated about yesterday? Lol
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 11:31:25 GMT -5
Delon Wright to Milwaukee for the vet min
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 1, 2024 11:32:47 GMT -5
I'm okay with Westbrook and Saric in. Then see what we can do at the trade deadline This is way better than what you will get lol |
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Post by famicommander on Jul 1, 2024 11:40:48 GMT -5
Delon Wright to Milwaukee for the vet min Okay, now this one hurts. |
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 11:41:33 GMT -5
you'd think the Nuggets would be interested in Temu KCP for the vet min. guess not.
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 11:53:33 GMT -5
Wait, Boston extended a starter from their championship team despite being a second apron team and having two supermax guys, once Tatum's extension is done? Doesn't that mean they are not allowed to practice with full sized basketballs?
They're in a window and they're all in. Salute. And their ownership has been called cheap in the past as well. You're dealt 11 and the odds are finally in your favor against the house, you double down. The Nuggets are sheepishly hitting as the dealer gently reminds them that "the book says double down, Calvin. Are you sure?"
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 1, 2024 12:00:17 GMT -5
Wait, Boston extended a starter from their championship team despite being a second apron team and having two supermax guys, once Tatum's extension is done? Doesn't that mean they are not allowed to practice with full sized basketballs? They're in a window and they're all in. Salute. And their ownership has been called cheap in the past as well. They're doubling down when they have 11. The Nuggets look at their 11 and sheepishly just hit. Boston top 6 is very good! Their issue is that Horford is old, and KcP is injury prone. True isn't getting any younger either. They are locked into this roster without much ability to improve it. IF they take any injuries to their guards they will be in trouble. They handled the KP injury because Horford played so well. If it happens again or someone else goes down, they won't have an ability to fix it. |
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Post by game on Jul 1, 2024 12:06:31 GMT -5
Wait, Boston extended a starter from their championship team despite being a second apron team and having two supermax guys, once Tatum's extension is done? Doesn't that mean they are not allowed to practice with full sized basketballs? They're in a window and they're all in. Salute. And their ownership has been called cheap in the past as well. They're doubling down when they have 11. The Nuggets look at their 11 and sheepishly just hit. Boston top 6 is very good! Their issue is that Horford is old, and KcP is injury prone. True isn't getting any younger either. They are locked into this roster without much ability to improve it. IF they take any injuries to their guards they will be in trouble. They handled the KP injury because Horford played so well. If it happens again or someone else goes down, they won't have an ability to fix it. The Nuggets aren't in the second apron, and I'm going to spoil for you now they will not be able to fix it if a key guy goes down. The top of the league is too good and those moves do not exist midseason. And if they did, the Nuggets have one tradeable draft pick and zero realistic matching salary that's not a negative. If you double down on 11 and you're dealt a 4, you can't hit again! This is all playing the odds the best you can. There is no fix for losing key players if you have a top heavy salary structure like Denver or Boston or Minnesota has, unless you have significant draft pick equity or highly desired cheap players. Buyout guys (and if you remember you're limited to only buyout guys who were on cheap contracts because of the first apron) and aggregating Zeke and Hunter Tyson and Jalen Pickett will get you absolutely nothing. We're not required to believe this nonsense. You're stuck once you go all in on big contracts for your top guys. Going into the second apron for the Nuggets right now changes basically nothing about how they'll approach this season. |
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Post by scooter on Jul 1, 2024 12:17:38 GMT -5
Harrison Wind said on podcast, while discussing Plumlee signing with Suns, that Nuggets will sign someone “considerably better than Plumlee” and probably in the next day or so. Seems he has heard something he’s not divulging. Scooter you ready to defend this when it doeasnt happen? I assume the Nuggets have a lot of irons in the fire right now because they have some obvious holes to patch and limited assets to do it. In addition, everything is a moving target and if you follow the NBA, you know that. Who knows if whatever Wind heard will shake out? I don’t think he’s just a pathological liar and didn’t hear anything and just made it up, if that’s what you are arguing. I’ve just pushed back on the (macho) comments that “everyone at DNVR is a clown” and such. My big picture take is that given how small the Denver Nuggets’ footprint in the sports landscape (locally and nationally) has historically been, us Nuggets fans are lucky to have DNVR, which is a damn good and entertaining Denver Nuggets’ media outlet. You can take yourself too seriously if you want and bash them for their more lighthearted “Inside the NBA” inspired approach, but while 35K/year Denver Post sports reporters come and go more or less annually, DNVR has been doing its thing pretty well now for a few years and I enjoy it. As of today, the Nuggets have a bigger need for a couple of actual NBA guards than for a center. Jokic and Jordan and Nnaji and Holmes are on the roster and Gordon has played center and in certain lineups it’s even possible Cancar could play some C. But they have basically 1 proven NBA player with guard skills, which is ridiculous. We’ll see how it shakes out, but as I write this, I think they have a bigger need for guys who can dribble and shoot off the dribble. |
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 12:18:24 GMT -5
for some reason I assumed the clips were way over the cap like us and couldnt afford any 3/30 deals. I dont blame DJJ for taking that one. its not bad in terms of net talent, im just getting sick and tired of every single team signing guys and we cannot get anyone. again, our bench is laughably bad. we cannot field a playable rotation for opening night. I would give the front office an A if they can get us a playable backup pg and either big man or wing. we need bodies. guys like naji marshall, tyus jones, tobias harris, monte morris, plumlee, DJJ and CP3 are just role players but they are 100 times better than our bench. id love to have bol bol back I told you earlier both LA teams are way under the cap. Where are you getting this from? |
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 12:18:44 GMT -5
get it done, Booth.
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 12:20:21 GMT -5
We are officially last once again in free agency |
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 12:23:39 GMT -5
Delon Wright to Milwaukee for the vet min These are the signings that piss me off. Milwaukee has no cap space yet keeps getting rotation players. And don’t tell me Milwaukee is a better city than denver Just inexcusable how bad the front office is |
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Post by JB on Jul 1, 2024 12:29:04 GMT -5
I've been singing the gospel of GTJ for a while now. shot 52% on wide open 3s last season, at least possesses the ability to a plus defender if placed in the right position and coached properly. we just need a GM that is capable of enlightening him on the benefits of the Nikola Jokic stimulus package.
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