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Post by jimijam28 on Jul 23, 2024 17:16:57 GMT -5
Philly going all the way
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Jul 24, 2024 5:55:36 GMT -5
I haven't been following the Olympic teams too closely this year although I have watched a couple of Serbia and USA warm-up games.
That being said, when it comes to Jamal Murray, has anyone else seen stories this summer about any other player receiving "needed rest" as much as him?
I've already seen a few stories as to why Jamal has either played sparingly or sat out of games entirely and have not seen any other player reported on as needing so much rest. Perhaps I'm just not looking hard enough?
I mention this however because it doesn't seem to bode well for Jamal's regular season readiness; Or are we just at the stage in Jamal's career where we just have to mitigate injury risk regardless?
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Post by duh88 on Jul 24, 2024 7:25:47 GMT -5
I haven't been following the Olympic teams too closely this year although I have watched a couple of Serbia and USA warm-up games. That being said, when it comes to Jamal Murray, has anyone else seen stories this summer about any other player receiving "needed rest" as much as him? I've already seen a few stories as to why Jamal has either played sparingly or sat out of games entirely and have not seen any other player reported on as needing so much rest. Perhaps I'm just not looking hard enough? I mention this however because it doesn't seem to bode well for Jamal's regular season readiness; Or are we just at the stage in Jamal's career where we just have to mitigate injury risk regardless? No. His max is unsigned and I think reality is hitting that he really shouldnât play. He also won the finals last year and didnât get much rest in the offseason. Murray will be fine. His sitting tho likely has more to do with an unsigned max - and his agent may have been blindsided by the terms too. |
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Post by famicommander on Jul 24, 2024 17:45:58 GMT -5
DeAndre Jordan signing is official as of today.
There seems to be some confusion as to what kind of deal Cancar signed.
The Nuggets/NBA press release called it a straight up 2 year deal
DNVR called it a straight up 1 year deal
SporTrac is showing a 1 year deal with a full no trade clause
I thought maybe he signed a 1 year deal with a 1 year option of some kind and that created the initial confusion, but nobody seems to be reporting any option.
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Jul 24, 2024 17:54:49 GMT -5
Great. Now when can the Westbrook signing become official so I can rest easy at night?
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Post by BBBbbb on Jul 24, 2024 18:20:40 GMT -5
... I thought maybe he signed a 1 year deal with a 1 year option of some kind ... Now, what kind of option could it potentially be? Great. Now when can the Westbrook signing become official so I can rest easy at night? Chill, no one is taking him apart from us. |
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Post by GBG on Jul 24, 2024 21:33:27 GMT -5
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 25, 2024 5:17:56 GMT -5
Jokic 3pt shot been not great for 20 months almost
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Post by pie on Jul 25, 2024 7:17:10 GMT -5
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 25, 2024 8:34:08 GMT -5
Eww
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 25, 2024 8:35:54 GMT -5
I would have done Mitchell before the went for Westbrook tho. Mitchell would be literally unstoppable with Jokic.
But WB and Mitchell together would never work
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Post by Ring on Jul 25, 2024 9:42:12 GMT -5
Like I've said all offseason long...it would be very cool if Jamal Murray took his body and conditioning as serious as NBA players need to. But whatever...people will make excuses for him and say his injuries are just bad luck and Malone over-playing him. Crazy considering Jokic plays more minutes, more games and has a heavier work load and is healthy mostly at a much bigger size. Very strange.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 25, 2024 10:01:05 GMT -5
Like I've said all offseason long...it would be very cool if Jamal Murray took his body and conditioning as serious as NBA players need to. But whatever...people will make excuses for him and say his injuries are just bad luck and Malone over-playing him. Crazy considering Jokic plays more minutes, more games and has a heavier work load and is healthy mostly at a much bigger size. Very strange. The Olympics aren't giving me much hope yet on him turning it around. Still time, but starting to worry that the injuries have already sapped his athleticism. |
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Post by scooter on Jul 25, 2024 10:26:36 GMT -5
Some thinking out there that Jokic will lift his scoring to new personal highs this season. With the dearth of shooting on this team, Joker needs to become a more consistent threat from deep and make 40% of his 3âs for the first time. If his does that and gets more superstar whistles, he certainly could average 28 ppg. Maybe even 30, though thatâs a stretch for a player as unselfish as Jokic. Some folks now seem to only be talking about three point shooting when they use the word âshooting.â I donât look at it like that. Sure threes are great and help space the floor, but to say the obvious, when guys hit shots, they hit shots. I donât see a need for Jokic to shoot 40% from three. And I donât particularly want Jokic to have such a big workload that heâs averaging 28-30 points/game. Iâd prefer for him to be pacing himself more and for the team to have the scoring spread around more. |
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Post by scooter on Jul 25, 2024 12:41:01 GMT -5
Like I've said all offseason long...it would be very cool if Jamal Murray took his body and conditioning as serious as NBA players need to. But whatever...people will make excuses for him and say his injuries are just bad luck and Malone over-playing him. Crazy considering Jokic plays more minutes, more games and has a heavier work load and is healthy mostly at a much bigger size. Very strange. Every person is different. You have basically no evidence that Murray has not maximized his health or that heâd be healthier or more productive if he did something different in terms of his âbody and conditioning.â Since his rookie season, Murray has played more games than a lot of high priced NBA players and a similar number of games to many others. You can cherry pick a few guys like Jokic who have been especially durable and find other high profile and high paid NBA players whoâve been less healthy than Murray. Nuggetsâ fans just want everything to be perfect â and Jokicâs extreme durability tends to make others look bad by comparison â but it doesnât work that way. Since Murrayâs rookie year, heâs played a lot of games despite missing about 1 1/2 seasons (factoring in 2 missed playoff years) with the ACL injury. A relatively few players have played more. And we do not know that more off-season conditioning work would make Murray healthier or result in fewer injuries. |
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Post by GBG on Jul 25, 2024 12:57:17 GMT -5
Some thinking out there that Jokic will lift his scoring to new personal highs this season. With the dearth of shooting on this team, Joker needs to become a more consistent threat from deep and make 40% of his 3âs for the first time. If his does that and gets more superstar whistles, he certainly could average 28 ppg. Maybe even 30, though thatâs a stretch for a player as unselfish as Jokic. Some folks now seem to only be talking about three point shooting when they use the word âshooting.â I donât look at it like that. Sure threes are great and help space the floor, but to say the obvious, when guys hit shots, they hit shots. I donât see a need for Jokic to shoot 40% from three. And I donât particularly want Jokic to have such a big workload that heâs averaging 28-30 points/game. Iâd prefer for him to be pacing himself more and for the team to have the scoring spread around more. Some folks. Not me, as you shouldnât assume when I mentioned shooting, I was only thinking about his 3PT%. Heâs a career 35.0% 3PT shooter, though, and while he was inline with that number last season at 35.9%, he shot poorly from distance in postseason, especially relative to his performance in championship run. Also, he shot 38.3% from 3 in that 2022/23 season. If there is one area he can get better in, itâs 3PT efficiency. However, even his long 2âs have taken an efficiency hit. Jokic is a career 45.7% shooter from 16-feet to the arc. Last season, he shot only 37.0% from that distance, his worst efficiency since 2018/19. While Jokic had another MVP season last season, there were a couple chinks in the armor. His shooting percentages beyond 16 feet, including the 3 point shot, were not what they were when he won a chip for us. Jokic needs to improve in his jump shooting, which would really help offset the decline in the shooting talent of this team by going from KCP and even Reggie to Westbrook and unproven Strawther in the backcourt. While Saric should help mitigate this somewhat, I fear we will be one of the worst perimeter shooting teams in the NBA, and we need Jokic to help us in that regard. |
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Post by Ring on Jul 25, 2024 15:50:31 GMT -5
Like I've said all offseason long...it would be very cool if Jamal Murray took his body and conditioning as serious as NBA players need to. But whatever...people will make excuses for him and say his injuries are just bad luck and Malone over-playing him. Crazy considering Jokic plays more minutes, more games and has a heavier work load and is healthy mostly at a much bigger size. Very strange. Every person is different. You have basically no evidence that Murray has not maximized his health or that heâd be healthier or more productive if he did something different in terms of his âbody and conditioning.â Since his rookie season, Murray has played more games than a lot of high priced NBA players and a similar number of games to many others. You can cherry pick a few guys like Jokic who have been especially durable and find other high profile and high paid NBA players whoâve been less healthy than Murray. Nuggetsâ fans just want everything to be perfect â and Jokicâs extreme durability tends to make others look bad by comparison â but it doesnât work that way. Since Murrayâs rookie year, heâs played a lot of games despite missing about 1 1/2 seasons (factoring in 2 missed playoff years) with the ACL injury. A relatively few players have played more. And we do not know that more off-season conditioning work would make Murray healthier or result in fewer injuries. Common sense would tell you that the healthier and more in shape that you are, the less injuries you are going to sustain as you'll be less fatigued and recover better. I'd love to know of other max players who look as tired on the court, as consistently as Jamal Murray. |
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Post by pie on Jul 25, 2024 17:20:51 GMT -5
Darius Garland was an all star in 2022, something Jamal Murray will never achieve
PG-Garland/Westbrook
SG-Braun/Lonnie Walker or another FA/Strawther
SF-MPJ/Watson/Free Agent
PF-AG/Saric/Cancar
C-Jokic/Free Agent/65 year old DeAndre
This is a championship level roster.
*-This is based on Pickett, Hunter Tyson being waived. And Zeke being traded/waived.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Jul 25, 2024 18:05:09 GMT -5
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Post by scooter on Jul 25, 2024 20:44:45 GMT -5
Common sense would tell you that the healthier and more in shape that you are, the less injuries you are going to sustain as you'll be less fatigued and recover better. I'd love to know of other max players who look as tired on the court, as consistently as Jamal Murray. One can definitely overtrain. Athletes sustain injuries from overuse, and non-athletes such as musicians do as well. Ask MPJâs high school coach Brandon Roy if âmore trainingâ would have made him healthier or better. |
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