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Post by Ring on May 10, 2023 8:05:40 GMT -5
 Cheers, ladies & gentlemen. Now go win game six. Do not assume a home game seven will not be wildly random (and maybe even favor guys like Durant). It will be. Learn from the 2019 Portland series. Literally was thinking about that series all game last night. Nuggets blew out Portland in Game 5. Portland blew them out in Game 6. Nuggets choked in Game 7. I don't think this team would choke a 15 point lead though. Jokic is a different beast now. |
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Post by Ring on May 10, 2023 8:08:51 GMT -5
Will watch the game later so cant really speak on his coaching this game Again...the only complaint I had about Malone the entire postseason is doubling Booker in Game 4. Easy for me to say now but I just hate giving up wide open corner 3s. The Nuggets effort on the closeouts played a role in that though as there was such poor effort. I really think Malone has been phenomenal in the playoffs so far. People complain about Jeff and I really don't think he's been that bad. He's played solid defense, hit some 3s and pairs well with Jokic. Yes, he can't rebound but he's also battling with a true center. You saw last night when Watson came in, even though it was garbage time that it would be so f***ing risky to play him. He missed an easy rotation early, sunk in too low defensively early (didn't pass to his man though) and also missed a shot that almost broke the side of the backboard. I just don't think there are any better options than Jeff. Just play Braun more minutes than Jeff (he did last night) |
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 10, 2023 8:15:06 GMT -5
#1 2023 Playoffs Ring fan
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Post by Ring on May 10, 2023 8:23:54 GMT -5
#1 2023 Playoffs Ring fan I just don't think it's hard to be fair. Like the problem I have with most fans is everyone wants to see Watson play. So do I. It's intriguing. But if he completely shits the bed, no one is going to say Malone made the right decision. They're going to say, how the hell can you play someone with that little experience in a playoff series? Or they'll just blame other people. Malone is coaching for his job and he's been nearly perfect through 10 playoff games now. I just don't buy that Vlatko, Zeke, DAJ, Watson, etc would produce better than Jeff. I really like our 8 man rotation. Our bench struggled on the road. Phoenix bench struggled on the road. None of this is surprising. |
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Post by freakns on May 10, 2023 8:31:01 GMT -5
If you can't give Murray a ton of credit for that win, I can't take your opinion on basketball serious. It's as simple as that. He was fantastic the entire 2nd half in every aspect of basketball. If him and Jokic play like that, the Nuggets are unbeatable. True, Murray had an excellent second half, but it served to offset a putrid first half. Overall, he was more than okay in the game. But not a star. Jamal is a star. He just aint superstar. Nuggets are playing against two superstars, team everyone choose to come out of the west, and Jamal is positive +/- every game. and he is doing that playing 40 minutes per game. On other side, Booker and KD are negative in every game but game 3 which is pretty much the only game Booker and KD won so far. Game was Shamet, Ross and Landale going nuclear. The only reason why Jamal isn't superstar, he aint as consistent as other guys. His highs are as high as Booker's, only thing is his lows are coming too often. But even that is getting better, cause before, Jamal was either high or low, and now, he can turn it within the game, like last night. Bad first half, but settle down, didn't try to win everything by himself, and trust his teammates. We need that Jamal in game 6, not hero ball Jamal. |
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Post by puzzleshock on May 10, 2023 8:33:23 GMT -5
this team is a joy to watch,, said it already i know. beautiful basketball
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Post by Ring on May 10, 2023 8:41:27 GMT -5
The winner thing has been passed around by the media and Malone quite a few times. Me after Game 2 of the regular season: I just need my guy to take his wide open 3s. I'll honestly deal with his lack of offense. His defense is ridiculous. I keep waiting for him to have his rookie moment on that end and he's just always positioned properly. Kid is a winner. Already got his hand in the passing lane twice, hustled for an offensive rebound. GLUE. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 9:14:39 GMT -5
I don't know how some of you guys can make sweeping comments about Watson/Reggie Jackson/Zeke/Vlatko/etc after them playing a few minutes in garbage time ...these guys haven't had meaninful minutes since the Sacramento game -- 2 or 3 weeks ago ...they were rusty like any other professional basketball player would be
Jeff Green is clearly the weakest link in Malone's idiotic 7 man rotation ...teams of other fans know it as well
Regardless of this game, Malone is still a terrible coach in terms of in-game adjustments and rotations and doesn't deserve to coach a generational superstar like Jokic
Edit: Yes, Murray played well in the 2nd half ...but are we forgetting his awful defense in games 3 & 4?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 9:26:33 GMT -5
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Post by Ring on May 10, 2023 9:41:41 GMT -5
Why the f**k would you want to rely on guys who are going to be "rusty" in a pivotal game then? I swear the people on this board complain about s**t just to complain about it.
I said this a few threads ago. Zeke, Vlatko, Watson, Reggie, whoever else you want to name is not substantially better than Jeff Green. None of them showed that throughout the season. We're complaining about our 8th man. That's how good Malone has been in this playoff run.
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Post by GBG on May 10, 2023 9:43:43 GMT -5
For you Jeff Green defenders out there, chew on these numbers…
Playoff totals though 10 games, 19.5 mpg:
PER - 5.4
WS/48 - .039
TS% - 46.6%
FG% - 38.1%
3PT% - 23.8%
Per-36 - 7.8/3.5/1.8
It takes a huge dose of copium and rationalization to say Uncle Jeff has been any more than useless. A backup PF/C averaging 3.5 rebounds per 36. If Malone had chosen correctly and given this role to Zeke instead, I’m sure he’d have been able to beat that rebound rate. He averaged 6.8 rebounds per 36 during season. DAJ could have done better too. Hell, most of our younger backup bigs could have done better than what you see above.
Veterans and locker room leaders get the benefit of the doubt, though. I don’t get it, but it is what it is.
Can’t make any changes now, though. Malone has made his bed.
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Post by wizardofcozz on May 10, 2023 9:47:28 GMT -5
Will watch the game later so cant really speak on his coaching this game Again...the only complaint I had about Malone the entire postseason is doubling Booker in Game 4. Easy for me to say now but I just hate giving up wide open corner 3s. The Nuggets effort on the closeouts played a role in that though as there was such poor effort. I really think Malone has been phenomenal in the playoffs so far. People complain about Jeff and I really don't think he's been that bad. He's played solid defense, hit some 3s and pairs well with Jokic. Yes, he can't rebound but he's also battling with a true center. You saw last night when Watson came in, even though it was garbage time that it would be so f***ing risky to play him. He missed an easy rotation early, sunk in too low defensively early (didn't pass to his man though) and also missed a shot that almost broke the side of the backboard. I just don't think there are any better options than Jeff. Just play Braun more minutes than Jeff (he did last night) I have zero issue giving up the corner 3, just can't give it up to Ross or Shamet. If it's Okogie or Payne let em shoot, have to take our chances with that imo. Same thing if we win and play LA, we have to make it a series where Schroder, Vanderbilt and DLO beat us. |
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Post by wizardofcozz on May 10, 2023 9:49:29 GMT -5
I don't know how some of you guys can make sweeping comments about Watson/Reggie Jackson/Zeke/Vlatko/etc after them playing a few minutes in garbage time ...these guys haven't had meaninful minutes since the Sacramento game -- 2 or 3 weeks ago ...they were rusty like any other professional basketball player would be Jeff Green is clearly the weakest link in Malone's idiotic 7 man rotation ...teams of other fans know it as well Regardless of this game, Malone is still a terrible coach in terms of in-game adjustments and rotations and doesn't deserve to coach a generational superstar like Jokic Edit: Yes, Murray played well in the 2nd half ...but are we forgetting his awful defense in games 3 & 4? Why do we keep saying 7 man rotation, am I missing a running joke on the board? Malone is playing Brown, Braun, and Green off the bench. THat's an 8 man rotation? I feel like i'm missing something?? |
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Post by GBG on May 10, 2023 9:53:15 GMT -5
I don't know how some of you guys can make sweeping comments about Watson/Reggie Jackson/Zeke/Vlatko/etc after them playing a few minutes in garbage time ...these guys haven't had meaninful minutes since the Sacramento game -- 2 or 3 weeks ago ...they were rusty like any other professional basketball player would be Jeff Green is clearly the weakest link in Malone's idiotic 7 man rotation ...teams of other fans know it as well Regardless of this game, Malone is still a terrible coach in terms of in-game adjustments and rotations and doesn't deserve to coach a generational superstar like Jokic Edit: Yes, Murray played well in the 2nd half ...but are we forgetting his awful defense in games 3 & 4? Why do we keep saying 7 man rotation, am I missing a running joke on the board? Malone is playing Brown, Braun, and Green off the bench. THat's an 8 man rotation? I feel like i'm missing something?? He’s a rookie poster. |
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Post by JB on May 10, 2023 10:03:55 GMT -5
I see zero downside in giving Reggie Jackson rotation minutes to spell Murray. I know NT is all lizard brain when it comes to Jamal and he becomes an out of shape role player when he struggles, but the man did not play professional basketball for 539 days, perhaps playing 40 minutes a game in the playoffs is too big an ask his first season back from injury.
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Post by Ring on May 10, 2023 10:24:11 GMT -5
For you Jeff Green defenders out there, chew on these numbers… Playoff totals though 10 games, 19.5 mpg: PER - 5.4 WS/48 - .039 TS% - 46.6% FG% - 38.1% 3PT% - 23.8% Per-36 - 7.8/3.5/1.8 It takes a huge dose of copium and rationalization to say Uncle Jeff has been any more than useless. A backup PF/C averaging 3.5 rebounds per 36. If Malone had chosen correctly and given this role to Zeke instead, I’m sure he’d have been able to beat that rebound rate. He averaged 6.8 rebounds per 36 during season. DAJ could have done better too. Hell, most of our younger backup bigs could have done better than what you see above. Veterans and locker room leaders get the benefit of the doubt, though. I don’t get it, but it is what it is. Can’t make any changes now, though. Malone has made his bed. I highly doubt Zeke would do any better when it comes to out-rebounding Jock Landale. People also just ignore the fact that Jeff typically isn't in rebounding position because when he plays it's either with Jokic OR he's guarding KD on the perimeter. Please point me to rebounds that Jeff should have grabbed that he didn't. I'm sure there is a couple but that's why stats are meaningless like that. Jeff is a better defender than Zeke. He's more athletic and he doesn't blow rotations as much. He's also better offensively AND has great chemistry with Jokic. He's just a better player. |
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Post by Ring on May 10, 2023 10:27:09 GMT -5
I see zero downside in giving Reggie Jackson rotation minutes to spell Murray. I know NT is all lizard brain when it comes to Jamal and he becomes an out of shape role player when he struggles, but the man did not play professional basketball for 539 days, perhaps playing 40 minutes a game in the playoffs is too big an ask his first season back from injury. The downside is that Jackson is going to chuck, he's terrible defensively and he has zero chemistry with the roster. If you're not going to play Murray, just run Bruce-KCP as your backcourt. In theory those 2 combined with CB and AG should be able to keep the bench minutes close enough. |
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Post by GBG on May 10, 2023 10:43:45 GMT -5
For you Jeff Green defenders out there, chew on these numbers… Playoff totals though 10 games, 19.5 mpg: PER - 5.4 WS/48 - .039 TS% - 46.6% FG% - 38.1% 3PT% - 23.8% Per-36 - 7.8/3.5/1.8 It takes a huge dose of copium and rationalization to say Uncle Jeff has been any more than useless. A backup PF/C averaging 3.5 rebounds per 36. If Malone had chosen correctly and given this role to Zeke instead, I’m sure he’d have been able to beat that rebound rate. He averaged 6.8 rebounds per 36 during season. DAJ could have done better too. Hell, most of our younger backup bigs could have done better than what you see above. Veterans and locker room leaders get the benefit of the doubt, though. I don’t get it, but it is what it is. Can’t make any changes now, though. Malone has made his bed. I highly doubt Zeke would do any better when it comes to out-rebounding Jock Landale. People also just ignore the fact that Jeff typically isn't in rebounding position because when he plays it's either with Jokic OR he's guarding KD on the perimeter. Please point me to rebounds that Jeff should have grabbed that he didn't. I'm sure there is a couple but that's why stats are meaningless like that. Jeff is a better defender than Zeke. He's more athletic and he doesn't blow rotations as much. He's also better offensively AND has great chemistry with Jokic. He's just a better player. Jeff is not a better perimeter defender and the only reason he has better chemistry with Jokic is that he has played the past several weeks, whereas Zeke hasn’t. I’d agree Jeff is a more reliable choice off the bench right now, given he’s been playing and Zeke would be rusty. But if Malone had picked Zeke or even Cancar to play the Jeff role several weeks ago in these playoffs, I believe they’d have better numbers than I showed Green has posted. Uncle Jeff has not been particularly good, but it’s who Malone chose, and we have to live with the results. |
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Post by freakns on May 10, 2023 10:50:35 GMT -5
this team is a joy to watch,, said it already i know. beautiful basketball this guy should be banned. judging by username, he is Serbian and cheering for wrong team. he is sort of Serbian Jimijam. Sticky, help me out here before this goes out of hand |
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Post by nuggetshipster on May 10, 2023 12:18:32 GMT -5
I don't know how some of you guys can make sweeping comments about Watson/Reggie Jackson/Zeke/Vlatko/etc after them playing a few minutes in garbage time ...these guys haven't had meaninful minutes since the Sacramento game -- 2 or 3 weeks ago ...they were rusty like any other professional basketball player would be Jeff Green is clearly the weakest link in Malone's idiotic 7 man rotation ...teams of other fans know it as well Regardless of this game, Malone is still a terrible coach in terms of in-game adjustments and rotations and doesn't deserve to coach a generational superstar like Jokic Edit: Yes, Murray played well in the 2nd half ...but are we forgetting his awful defense in games 3 & 4? watched those guys all season and i dont mind them not playing at this point |
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