Jokic vs the Nuggets' all time record book

[famicommander]

Yeah, I don't think there is every an easy way to convince your spouse you don't need an extra 400 million dollars

[famicommander]

Anyway, some actual milestones:

Jokic needs 10 FG to tie, 11 to pass Carmelo Anthony for 3rd
Jamal Murray hit his 900th career 3 pointer last night
Porter needs 5 3s to tie, 6 to pass Gallinari for 8th; 10 to tie Chandler for 7th
Jokic needs 17 blocks to tie, 18 to pass Schayes to finally break into the top 10

[BBBbbb]

Not sure anyone refused max money to retire. Most of the cases are player on the lower end of the salary range with some long lingering health or mental issues.
You still get to end your career in mid 30s and enjoy life, at a point many others start building their careers. Once you have such an offer in front of you it's hard to say no.

Times of being worried Jokic might just quit basketball are long behind us. Other stars cruise games as well, just in a different ways - mostly settling for and chucking longer range shots.

[famicommander]

All time career ranks

Win shares/48 minutes:
1. Nikola Jokic - .2509
2. Michael Jordan - .2505
3. David Robinson - .2502

Player Efficiency rating:
1. Michael Jordan - 27.91
2. Nikola Jokic - 27.88
3. LeBron James - 27.14

Box plus minus:
1. Nikola Jokic - 9.71
2. Michael Jordan - 9.21
3. LeBron James - 8.73

Offensive rating:
1. Clint Capela - 127.19
2. Rudy Gobert - 127.16
3. Nikola Jokic - 125.19

True shooting:
1. Rudy Gobert - .6695
2. DeAndre Jordan - .6443
3. Nikola Jokic - .6325

For the season he's leading in VORP, BPM, OBPM, DBPM, WS, OWS, WS/48

He's also having the fewest turnovers per game he has had since the 2016-17 season when he wasn't even a full time starter. Back then he averaged 4.9 assists to 2.3 turnovers. This year he's at 9.2 assists to 2.7 turnovers.

[Coach Sticky]

The true shooting is so crazy…. All Gobert and DAJ do/did was dunking, never even a hookshot. Just lobs….

Jokic is taking the craziest shots in the world and is too-3

[famicommander]

Jan 8, 2024 17:06:18 GMT -5 Coach Sticky said:

The true shooting is so crazy…. All Gobert and DAJ do/did was dunking, never even a hookshot. Just lobs….

Jokic is taking the craziest shots in the world and is too-3

I think his BPM and WS stats are even crazier considering he spent the first ~1.5 seasons of his career as a bench guy/occasional power forward. 

If you just look at his numbers since he became the full time starting center they're just plain insane.

[famicommander]

Update time. Jokic and Melo are the recent topic of conversation, and as it happens that's who he's chasing and/or just passed on several lists.


Games played:
1. Alex English - 837
2. Dan Issel - 802
3. Byron Beck - 747
4. T.R. Dunn - 734
5. Nikola Jokić - 635
6. Bill Hanzlik - 593
7. Carmelo Anthony - 564
8. Nenê - 555
9. Danny Schayes - 536
10. Ralph Simpson - 519

Minutes played:
1. Alex English - 29893
2. Dan Issel - 25198
3. Carmelo Anthony - 20521
4. Nikola Jokić - 19639
5. Byron Beck - 19197
6. T.R. Dunn - 18322
7. David Thompson - 16902
8. Fat Lever - 16867
9. Nenê - 16445
10. Ralph Simpson - 16227

Points:
1. Alex English - 21645
2. Dan Issel - 16589
3. Carmelo Anthony - 13970
4. Nikola Jokić - 13050
5. David Thompson - 11992
6. Ralph Simpson - 10130
7. Byron Beck - 8603
8. Fat Lever - 8081
9. Jamal Murray - 7469
10. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf - 7029

Field goals:
1. Alex English - 8953
2. Dan Issel - 6176
3. Nikola Jokić - 5013
5. Carmelo Anthony - 4989
5. David Thompson - 4486
6. Ralph Simpson - 4095
7. Byron Beck - 3681
8. Fat Lever - 3304
9. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf - 2880
10. Jamal Murray - 2743

3 point field goals:
1. Jamal Murray - 907
2. Will Barton - 804
3. J.R. Smith - 768
4. Nikola Jokić - 634
5. Michael Adams - 630
6. Gary Harris - 565
7. Wilson Chandler - 540
8. Michael Porter Jr. - 538
9. Danilo Gallinari - 535
10. Chauncey Billups - 514

Free throws:
1. Dan Issel - 4217
2. Alex English - 3721
3. Carmelo Anthony - 3582
4. David Thompson - 2996
5. Nikola Jokić - 2390
6. Ralph Simpson - 1908
7. Danny Schayes - 1774
8. Nenê - 1734
9. Larry Jones - 1700
10. Dave Robisch - 1547

Offensive Rebounds:
1. Alex English - 2038
2. Dan Issel - 1989
3. Nikola Jokić - 1669
4. Byron Beck - 1635
5. Dikembe Mutombo - 1514
6. Julius Keye - 1373
7. Kenneth Faried - 1368
8. T.R. Dunn - 1359
9. Nenê - 1183
10. Fat Lever - 1119

Defensive rebounds:
1. Nikola Jokić - 5062
2. Dan Issel - 4641
3. Dikembe Mutombo - 3297
4. Marcus Camby - 3174
4. Julius Keye - 3174
6. Byron Beck - 3067
7. Nenê - 2676
8. Alex English - 2648
9. Fat Lever - 2502
10. Carmelo Anthony - 2464

Rebounds:
1. Nikola Jokić - 6731
2. Dan Issel - 6630
3. Byron Beck - 5261
4. Dikembe Mutombo - 4811
5. Alex English - 4686
6. Julius Keye - 4547
7. Marcus Camby - 4117
8. Nenê - 3859
9. Kenneth Faried - 3634
10. Fat Lever - 3621

Assists:
1. Nikola Jokić - 4321
2. Alex English - 3679
3. Fat Lever - 3566
4. Andre Miller - 2978
5. Ty Lawson - 2745
6. Michael Adams - 2181
7. Nick Van Exel - 2047
8. Dan Issel - 2005
9. Ralph Simpson - 1950
10. Jamal Murray - 1886

Steals:
1. Fat Lever - 1167
2. T.R. Dunn - 1070
3. Alex English - 854
4. Dan Issel - 798
5. Nikola Jokić - 759
6. Nenê - 694
7. Bobby Jones - 660
8. Carmelo Anthony - 634
9. Reggie Williams - 632
10. Michael Adams - 602

Blocks:
1. Dikembe Mutombo - 1486
2. Marcus Camby - 1126
3. Wayne Cooper - 830
4. Bobby Jones - 625
5. Chris Andersen - 624
5. Alex English - 624
7. Antonio McDyess - 604
8. Raef LaFrentz - 556
9. Nenê - 508
10. Danny Schayes - 470
11. Nikola Jokić - 459

Jokic has passed Carmelo Anthony for 3rd in field goals.
Michael Porter Jr. has passed Danilo Gallinari for 8th in three pointers, and is only 2 behind Wilson Chandler for 7th

Milestones coming up for Jokic soon for blocks, and he still should likely catch Melo on both the points and minutes lists this year. Won't be much longer before Jamal catches Ralph Simpson for 9th in assists. Porter will probably catch Chandler next game in 3s, and Harris won't be long after that.

[famicommander]

Jokic is the first player since Wilt to shoot 80% over an 8 game span (min. 10 FGA per game).

[famicommander]

MPJ has passed Wilson Chandler for 7th on the 3 pointer list.

Only 20 more to tie Gary Harris for 6th.

Jokic is the first player in NBA history to shoot 80% or better over a 9 game span (min. 100 FGA).

10 more blocks to tie Danny Schayes for 10th.

[passtheballquick]

I am not sure that Jokic will return to Serbia. In 7-8 years many things will be different. Ask me how I know lol

[famicommander]

As of right now Jokic is 1st all time in box plus minus, win shares per 48 minutes, and player efficiency rating.

[planaria]

Gotta add Michael Malone victory numbers in the next update. He´s getting close to Karl and Moe.

[Camby's Left Nut]

Doubt he'll surpass Moe this season, but passing Karl with 24 more wins is not out of reach. Either way he'll get that #1 spot next season. And at that point I guess he's guaranteed a jersey retirement in the future, whenever he officially retires from coaching.

[famicommander]

I'd say all three Ball Arena teams currently have the best coach in their respective histories. We're lucky to have Jared Bednar, Michael Malone, and Pat Coyle. Too bad about Sean Payton and Bud Black.

[famicommander]

I'll do the next update when Joker gets Danny Schayes for blocks. Needs 4 to tie, 5 to pass him.

[GBG]

Jan 30, 2024 17:26:19 GMT -5 famicommander said:

I'd say all three Ball Arena teams currently have the best coach in their respective histories. We're lucky to have Jared Bednar, Michael Malone, and Pat Coyle. Too bad about Sean Payton and Bud Black.

Black can do nothing for that God-foresaken franchise. He may not be part of the solution. But he isn’t the problem.

Rockies are projected by Fangraphs to have the fewest wins in MLB this season at 64. And that would be a five game improvement from last year.

I was a baseball fan long before I became a basketball fan. Willie Mays was my childhood hero. The Rockies are the worst team I’ve suffered with in over 60 years of following the sport, and I see nothing that will change it. Sure they might get hot for a year or two by 2030 and sneak into playoffs as a wildcard. But they will remain losers under the current ownership which is worse than Comsat or Ascent was with the Nuggets.

[famicommander]

Bud Black has 4 .500 seasons and 1 singular playoff victory in 16 seasons as a manager for two different franchises. He's a clown.

The Rockies may be a fiasco but he's noticeably and significantly worse than guys like Don Baylor or Clint Hurdle.

[GBG]

Jan 30, 2024 19:59:34 GMT -5 famicommander said:

Bud Black has 4 .500 seasons and 1 singular playoff victory in 16 seasons as a manager for two different franchises. He's a clown.

The Rockies may be a fiasco but he's noticeably and significantly worse than guys like Don Baylor or Clint Hurdle.

He doesn’t play the young players enough, but is good with pitching. Doesn’t matter who would manage the rosters Schmidt puts together anyway.

[famicommander]

Jokic's box plus minus to this point in the year is 14.28. The all time single season record is 13.72, set by Jokic himself two seasons ago.

[famicommander]

Long overdue update time

Games played:
1. Alex English - 837
2. Dan Issel - 802
3. Byron Beck - 747
4. T.R. Dunn - 734
5. Nikola Jokić - 651
6. Bill Hanzlik - 593
7. Carmelo Anthony - 564
8. Nenê - 555
9. Danny Schayes - 536
10. Ralph Simpson - 519

Minutes played:
1. Alex English - 29893
2. Dan Issel - 25198
3. Carmelo Anthony - 20521
4. Nikola Jokić - 20200
5. Byron Beck - 19197
6. T.R. Dunn - 18322
7. David Thompson - 16902
8. Fat Lever - 16867
9. Nenê - 16445
10. Ralph Simpson - 16227

Points:
1. Alex English - 21645
2. Dan Issel - 16589
3. Carmelo Anthony - 13970
4. Nikola Jokić - 13486
5. David Thompson - 11992
6. Ralph Simpson - 10130
7. Byron Beck - 8603
8. Fat Lever - 8081
9. Jamal Murray - 7775
10. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf - 7029

Field goals:
1. Alex English - 8953
2. Dan Issel - 6176
3. Nikola Jokić - 5191
5. Carmelo Anthony - 4989
5. David Thompson - 4486
6. Ralph Simpson - 4095
7. Byron Beck - 3681
8. Fat Lever - 3304
9. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf - 2880
10. Jamal Murray - 2863

3 point field goals:
1. Jamal Murray - 942
2. Will Barton - 804
3. J.R. Smith - 768
4. Nikola Jokić - 650
5. Michael Adams - 630
6. Michael Porter Jr. - 583
7. Gary Harris - 565
8. Wilson Chandler - 540
9. Danilo Gallinari - 535
10. Chauncey Billups - 514

Free throws:
1. Dan Issel - 4217
2. Alex English - 3721
3. Carmelo Anthony - 3582
4. David Thompson - 2996
5. Nikola Jokić - 2454
6. Ralph Simpson - 1908
7. Danny Schayes - 1774
8. Nenê - 1734
9. Larry Jones - 1700
10. Dave Robisch - 1547

Offensive Rebounds:
1. Alex English - 2038
2. Dan Issel - 1989
3. Nikola Jokić - 1722
4. Byron Beck - 1635
5. Dikembe Mutombo - 1514
6. Julius Keye - 1373
7. Kenneth Faried - 1368
8. T.R. Dunn - 1359
9. Nenê - 1183
10. Fat Lever - 1119

Defensive rebounds:
1. Nikola Jokić - 5222
2. Dan Issel - 4641
3. Dikembe Mutombo - 3297
4. Marcus Camby - 3174
4. Julius Keye - 3174
6. Byron Beck - 3067
7. Nenê - 2676
8. Alex English - 2648
9. Fat Lever - 2502
10. Carmelo Anthony - 2464

Rebounds:
1. Nikola Jokić - 6944
2. Dan Issel - 6630
3. Byron Beck - 5261
4. Dikembe Mutombo - 4811
5. Alex English - 4686
6. Julius Keye - 4547
7. Marcus Camby - 4117
8. Nenê - 3859
9. Kenneth Faried - 3634
10. Fat Lever - 3621

Assists:
1. Nikola Jokić - 4462
2. Alex English - 3679
3. Fat Lever - 3566
4. Andre Miller - 2978
5. Ty Lawson - 2745
6. Michael Adams - 2181
7. Nick Van Exel - 2047
8. Dan Issel - 2005
9. Jamal Murray - 1988
10. Ralph Simpson - 1950

Steals:
1. Fat Lever - 1167
2. T.R. Dunn - 1070
3. Alex English - 854
4. Dan Issel - 798
5. Nikola Jokić - 778
6. Nenê - 694
7. Bobby Jones - 660
8. Carmelo Anthony - 634
9. Reggie Williams - 632
10. Michael Adams - 602

Blocks:
1. Dikembe Mutombo - 1486
2. Marcus Camby - 1126
3. Wayne Cooper - 830
4. Bobby Jones - 625
5. Chris Andersen - 624
5. Alex English - 624
7. Antonio McDyess - 604
8. Raef LaFrentz - 556
9. Nenê - 508
10. Nikola Jokić - 473

Nikola Jokic has passed Danny Schayes for 10th in blocked shots.
Michael Porter Jr has passed both Gary Harris and Wilson Chandler for 6th in 3 pointers.
Jamal Murray has passed Ralph Simpson for 9th in assists.

Upcoming milestones:
Jokic needs 20 steals to tie Dan Issel for 4th
Jokic needs 321 minutes to tie Carmelo Anthony for 3rd
Murray needs 17 assists to tie Dan Issel for 8th
Murray needs 17 field goals to tie Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf for 9th