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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 20:00:20 GMT -5
Again he really only played 20 minutes. The last 5 were garbage time. And is the leash actually getting longer? I'd be willing to bet money Craig would have played over him today if everyone was healthy. If he didn't get minutes in garbage time you'd be bitching that he wasn't getting minutes in garbage time. Come on man. The #1 thing that pisses me off about Malone is anytime MPJ makes a defensive mistake he gets yanked or yelled at. Malone doesn't hold other players accountable. This is the exact same thing that happened the year he pulled Murray/Jokic against the Mavs when we were in a playoff race. He's way too hard on young guys and not hard enough on vets. I'd have no problem with him if he yanked Plumlee whenever he fucks up which is nearly every defensive possession but he doesn't. Explain to me why?
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 1, 2020 20:05:14 GMT -5
until malone team hits a plateau record wise or 1st round exit. (not counting this fuckup/fake bubble restart) than it will be time for change- but he will not be in the hot season to start next season nor should he. hell we kept Karl (sorry brick) for so long i was asking for his head after 5 1st round exit. too early for malone still
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 1, 2020 20:09:37 GMT -5
malone has a higher standard level for mpj- he expects and want more from him- - whats wrong with that., learn the right way. he not going to yell at plum or tc because he know their talent sucks - tc time would go away if everybody is healthy-
wow a coach getting on a rookie more than a vet wow i never seen that before in any sport.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 20:49:44 GMT -5
malone has a higher standard level for mpj- he expects and want more from him- - whats wrong with that., learn the right way. he not going to yell at plum or tc because he know their talent sucks - tc time would go away if everybody is healthy- wow a coach getting on a rookie more than a vet wow i never seen that before in any sport. 0% chance Torrey is not playing when the team is fully healthy. You're nuts.
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Post by brick2 on Aug 1, 2020 21:19:19 GMT -5
If he didn't get minutes in garbage time you'd be bitching that he wasn't getting minutes in garbage time. Come on man. The #1 thing that pisses me off about Malone is anytime MPJ makes a defensive mistake he gets yanked or yelled at. Malone doesn't hold other players accountable. This is the exact same thing that happened the year he pulled Murray/Jokic against the Mavs when we were in a playoff race. He's way too hard on young guys and not hard enough on vets. I'd have no problem with him if he yanked Plumlee whenever he fucks up which is nearly every defensive possession but he doesn't. Explain to me why? I don't know anything about the personal interactions between the coach and players. Lots, and I mean lots of stuff happens behind the scenes that goes into the decisions made on the court. There's a famous story of Phil Jackson calling Horace Grant into his office to tell him [paraphrasing], "I need to be really hard on someone to make an example so that the rest of the team takes this seriously. You can handle it. Don't take it personally but I'm going to be extra hard on you." And Grant agreed. Not saying that this is at play here, just that coaches are always going to treat players differently, and for reasons that remain opaque to the media and fandom. Each player responds differently to different methods. Some guys need a pat on the ass and an "I still love you man, get your head in the game." Some guys respond better to, "man that was disappointing, you can do better." And some respond better to, "you haven't proven s**t yet, so get your ass in gear." Right? So I can't explain why Malone treats players differently. There will always be different standards, but one thing I'm fairly certain of is that Malone is transparent with his players about why he makes the decisions he does. Remember by all accounts most players love him and he has done a good job with player development for the most part. TC and his crew get a lot of credit for drafting well but the flipside is that Malone does a good job maximizing talent.
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 1, 2020 22:20:12 GMT -5
malone has a higher standard level for mpj- he expects and want more from him- - whats wrong with that., learn the right way. he not going to yell at plum or tc because he know their talent sucks - tc time would go away if everybody is healthy- wow a coach getting on a rookie more than a vet wow i never seen that before in any sport. 0% chance Torrey is not playing when the team is fully healthy. You're nuts. your nut - tc min was going down in Jan, than players got hurt like mpj.
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Post by duh88 on Aug 2, 2020 1:36:36 GMT -5
That was about the most uninspired effort I’ve ever seen this team give. From coaches to most players (not all players).
Don’t know what to say? Not having Barton and Murray hurt because no one out there was willing to take initiative. I felt like MPJ was trying - but.... Malone.
About the only thing I liked was MPJ’s Jersey - “Stand up”.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 2, 2020 6:30:38 GMT -5
Malone does not play favourites
Murray injuryproneness is a big worry
This Tournament does not matter
Doubt we ever really find our groove. We were always bad without a crowd
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 2, 2020 6:32:00 GMT -5
That was about the most uninspired effort I’ve ever seen this team give. From coaches to most players (not all players). I would understand someone being there just to get paid
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 2, 2020 6:32:56 GMT -5
You cant blame anyone but MPJ for MPJs shortcomings
THE DUDE IS NOT A STAR YET
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 2, 2020 9:42:01 GMT -5
That was about the most uninspired effort I’ve ever seen this team give. From coaches to most players (not all players). I would understand someone being there just to get paid all of the games yesterday suck big time- these players will just go through the motion - there no pressure without the fans, its just rec ball for them. And i dont blame the players since they are begin lockup.
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Post by rock on Aug 2, 2020 14:09:22 GMT -5
uh, well this sucks:
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 2, 2020 14:17:37 GMT -5
The bubble is about too break
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Post by funky on Aug 2, 2020 14:47:45 GMT -5
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Post by rock on Aug 2, 2020 15:22:36 GMT -5
All hope comes crashing down. Nugglife is unrelenting
From hopes of a title and future to disaster. TC is going to destroy this franchise this summer.
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 2, 2020 15:35:21 GMT -5
Everybody going to get stress out begin in the bubble, I am not taking anything out of the restart game, our new gm and TC will have a plan when the off season starts
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 17:10:18 GMT -5
You cant blame anyone but MPJ for MPJs shortcomings THE DUDE IS NOT A STAR YET Guess how many times MPJs defense led to a basket by Jimmy Butler or Duncan Robinson aka the 2 guys he was primarily defending? 0. Gave up 1 bucket to Crowder off a screen and that was it. But yes, Malone doesn't play favorites. Please remind me how many buckets Plumlee gave up in the last 1 minute of the 2nd half alone.
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Post by duh88 on Aug 2, 2020 18:42:29 GMT -5
What ring said.
Malone’s hard-on for plumlee is worse than Karl/Ac-Carter.
We were down by 10 in the third and needed a spark - Malone inserts.... plumlee.
I knew we were toast at that point. Deficit grows to 17 within minutes. Everyone then gave up.
I’m with ring - I actually thought mpj was doing a decent job on defense. We need to let him play through mistakes. And get bol out there even more.
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Post by scooter on Aug 2, 2020 19:06:30 GMT -5
TC is going to destroy this franchise this summer. I don't understand the basis for this kind of stuff. This is the same FO that two years running managed to draft high level young talent with a #14 pick in 2018 and no pick at all in 2019, which was also a shallow draft class. The way I look at FOs is basically they are either competent or incompetent. The Nuggets' FO has been competent. Rock, what is your theory as to how the FO is going to "destroy" the franchise this summer? In any event, the coronovirus wrecked havoc with this team, as roughly half the team got it, forcing the team to shut its Pepsi Center practice facility and then have most of its Orlando training camp with half a team. Most of the back-court is 3 weeks behind in preparation, and there's a decent chance that's played a part in the current injuries. It's possible they'll be able to get it together by the time the playoffs start, but right now, in addition to missing talent, it's clear the team is demoralized in what is already a tough situation being stuck "in a bubble." Luck plays a part for every team and right now, the Nuggets have bad luck, not incompetence. Malone's current attitude toward Porter may be influenced some by the incredibly stupid comments Porter made in the aftermath of being weeks late to Orlando because of getting coronavirus. Malone is human too, and given how much havoc COVID played with this team, if I were in Malone's shoes I would have been livid about Porter's comments. Porter is really talented, but I'm starting to worry plenty about his intangibles and whether he's going to maximize his talent and value to the team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 20:00:05 GMT -5
What ring said. Malone’s hard-on for plumlee is worse than Karl/Ac-Carter. We were down by 10 in the third and needed a spark - Malone inserts.... plumlee. I knew we were toast at that point. Deficit grows to 17 within minutes. Everyone then gave up. I’m with ring - I actually thought mpj was doing a decent job on defense. We need to let him play through mistakes. And get bol out there even more. I'd really like to see Bol get a shot as a stretch 5 with the backup unit. Sure you might not have the Plumlee passing out of the post, but he adds a different dimension. I think pairing up Millsap/Bol as a 4/5 combo would be really really good. Millsap can occupy the low post and run pick and rolls and you can use Bol to space and pop
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