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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 1, 2020 16:19:35 GMT -5
1 season in the playoffs , is doing it over and over? 😂 This will be mpj first playoffs run and bol bol just started the season Instead of being sarcastic on each and every post. Enlight me with your thoughts. How do you envision this team in the near future (1-3 years). What would you do, is there something you would change, or everything is perfect and we should be crowned? Or we should just sit in the corner and cry? Provide me informations about possible solutions, path, vision. Not with same old "Wake me up in 2540 when the Jupiter Nuggets are in the finals" My God, chill out dude, it's just a f***ing game.
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Post by rock on Aug 1, 2020 16:32:00 GMT -5
The nuggets are going to foolishly let mpj go just to find him flourish on another team like nurkic, Beasley, etc
At what point do we hold our GM and coach accountable?
Other young players have a much longer leash. Let the kid play and make mistakes. Everyone on this team makes mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 16:58:42 GMT -5
The Thunder haven't lost a game in 151 days. OKC by 45 Monday.
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Post by rock on Aug 1, 2020 17:00:11 GMT -5
The Thunder haven't lost a game in 151 days. OKC by 45 Monday. even their GM wasnt trying to win this year. some teams cant help themselves. OKC tries to lose, wins 50 games and a series nuggets do whatever they can to win, wins 50 games and loses in playoffs. our best is their worst.
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 1, 2020 17:12:03 GMT -5
waiting for 3rd deck report
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Post by passtheballquick on Aug 1, 2020 18:04:33 GMT -5
Not worried yet. It's becoming more and more obvious that Monte can't run the offense and no chemistry with Jokic makes him unplayable with starters. Plumlee garbage as always. We need startes back asap
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Post by brick2 on Aug 1, 2020 18:13:16 GMT -5
Obviously not having any starting guards hurts, and the lack of practice as a team is going to continue to hurt them the remaining regular season games. On top of that, Dozier was terrible on both ends. Their guards absolutely torched us. What did we expect?
Team looked ok and actually hung in there until the 3rd. Then all hell broke out and we couldn't guard shite. I kept wondering why the hell Malone rode Plumlee for so long. He was ok in the 1st half but really ineffective in the 2nd half, especially when the team needed scoring. He couldn't defend, couldn't score. What was Malone thinking? If someone is going to play that badly just let Bol run to get some experience.
Porter needs to get more than 1 rebound and needs to shoot better than 25% from 3. Plus his defensive lapses rightfully got him yanked. And then he was kind of a b***h about it.
And once the team got down by 17 they pretty much gave up. It wasn't that Olynyk is some superstar, the team was just kind of done. (Though back when he was available I'd have loved to get him as a backup.)
Whatever. But if these games are going to cause you to stress out, better buckle in because this is how it could be for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 18:21:38 GMT -5
Obviously not having any starting guards hurts, and the lack of practice as a team is going to continue to hurt them the remaining regular season games. On top of that, Dozier was terrible on both ends. Their guards absolutely torched us. What did we expect? Team looked ok and actually hung in there until the 3rd. Then all hell broke out and we couldn't guard shite. I kept wondering why the hell Malone rode Plumlee for so long. He was ok in the 1st half but really ineffective in the 2nd half, especially when the team needed scoring. He couldn't defend, couldn't score. What was Malone thinking? If someone is going to play that badly just let Bol run to get some experience. Porter needs to get more than 1 rebound and needs to shoot better than 25% from 3. Plus his defensive lapses rightfully got him yanked. And then he was kind of a b***h about it. And once the team got down by 17 they pretty much gave up. It wasn't that Olynyk is some superstar, the team was just kind of done. (Though back when he was available I'd have loved to get him as a backup.) Whatever. But if these games are going to cause you to stress out, better buckle in because this is how it could be for a while. Nobody would be stressing out if Malone just didn't play favorites. Like you said, if Plumlee is clearly ineffective, why not just give Bol a shot? It's simply because Plumlee plays hard as does Craig and that's what Malone is drawn to. Just hold all the role players to the same standard at least. This is the time where Malone should be experimenting. The guy said all he cares about is health through the seeding games. How about trying to find some 5 man units that can play so we don't have a dogshit bench for the playoffs like we did last year?
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Post by rock on Aug 1, 2020 18:26:23 GMT -5
exactly. if he doesnt care about seeding, then put some new lineups out there. we already know what craig, plumlee and morris can do.
at least go into a 2-7 matchup with the clippers healthy and a chance to not get embarassed. and giving MPJ/bol playoff experience could be helpful a year from now. forget trying to win a title this year. that is clearly a laughable goal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 18:30:39 GMT -5
exactly. if he doesnt care about seeding, then put some new lineups out there. we already know what craig, plumlee and morris can do. at least go into a 2-7 matchup with the clippers healthy and a chance to not get embarassed. and giving MPJ/bol playoff experience could be helpful a year from now. forget trying to win a title this year. that is clearly a laughable goal. You just have to get a coach in here who will take his personnel and adjust his coaching style to what best suits them. Malone takes his personnel and makes them play like the grind it out Memphis Grizzlies. When they get bounced in the 1st round this year he better be on the hot seat. Wasting some great years out of Jokic and stunting the development of MPJ
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 1, 2020 18:38:26 GMT -5
hot seat for losing out in a f**k up season (bubble) no,, the dude gets other year - until we hit a plateau - also how is he stunting mpj devel this season ? he was hurt the 1st yr,, was not ready for summer camp- we started playing him slowly- than he played great in Jan and got hurt again (3 weeks) and after all-star break he was playing hurt (he even said his ankle was not right)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 18:53:47 GMT -5
hot seat for losing out in a f**k up season (bubble) no,, the dude gets other year - until we hit a plateau - also how is he stunting mpj devel this season ? he was hurt the 1st yr,, was not ready for summer camp- we started playing him slowly- than he played great in Jan and got hurt again (3 weeks) and after all-star break he was playing hurt (he even said his ankle was not right) He should be on the hot seat after we get embarrassed in the 1st round this year. So next year will be a make or break year. Stop using the bubble as an excuse. Every other team is playing under the exact same conditions. And any time Torrey Craig plays ahead of MPJ it's stunting his development. You're playing a guy who has 0 skills and is nearly 30 over a lottery pick whose potential is a top 5 scorer.
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 1, 2020 19:01:04 GMT -5
hello mpj started today (25min) in jan he was getting more min until he got hurt, play the right way and he will get his min like he did in jan. the dude just got in camp also - so did you expect him to play 40 min today?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 19:05:34 GMT -5
hello mpj started today (25min) in jan he was getting more min until he got hurt, play the right way and he will get his min like he did in jan. the dude just got in camp also - so did you expect him to play 40 min today? 25 minutes isn't fair because he played like 5 of those in garbage time. And again, nobody would be mad about MPJ getting yanked for making defensive mistakes if Malone just treated other guys the same. Plumlee was worse defensively today, as was Millsap. I simply expect him to play more minutes than Torrey Craig.
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Post by jimijam28 on Aug 1, 2020 19:14:12 GMT -5
hello mpj started today (25min) in jan he was getting more min until he got hurt, play the right way and he will get his min like he did in jan. the dude just got in camp also - so did you expect him to play 40 min today? 25 minutes isn't fair because he played like 5 of those in garbage time. And again, nobody would be mad about MPJ getting yanked for making defensive mistakes if Malone just treated other guys the same. Plumlee was worse defensively today, as was Millsap. I simply expect him to play more minutes than Torrey Craig. ever think maybe malone is high on MPJ - and expect more of him because he is so talent and does not want him to waste his talent picking up bad habits,, he know the talent level of plum and tc is what it is. .. when MPJ was on in Jan malone had no problem with him- and tc was getting less min.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 19:17:29 GMT -5
25 minutes isn't fair because he played like 5 of those in garbage time. And again, nobody would be mad about MPJ getting yanked for making defensive mistakes if Malone just treated other guys the same. Plumlee was worse defensively today, as was Millsap. I simply expect him to play more minutes than Torrey Craig. ever think maybe malone is high on MPJ - and expect more of him because he is so talent and does not want him to waste his talent picking up bad habits,, he know the talent level of plum and tc is what it is. .. when MPJ was on in Jan malone had no problem with him- and tc was getting less min. Does any other coach in the NBA do that to guys that have star potential? Realistically Malone is just 2 years late on everything. How long did it take him to embrace Jokic for example as the centerpiece of his team? MPJ is a guy who needs pats on the back from his coach. You can tell he's not a high confidence player at all in the NBA yet. Instead Malone just trashes him and yanks him whenever he makes a mistake.
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Post by brick2 on Aug 1, 2020 19:26:28 GMT -5
hello mpj started today (25min) in jan he was getting more min until he got hurt, play the right way and he will get his min like he did in jan. the dude just got in camp also - so did you expect him to play 40 min today? That's actually a pretty good point. 25 minutes is plenty for a guy who has effectively, 2 scrimmages under his belt since getting back from his injury. Plus, it's not like he was killing it out there.
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Post by brick2 on Aug 1, 2020 19:31:36 GMT -5
ever think maybe malone is high on MPJ - and expect more of him because he is so talent and does not want him to waste his talent picking up bad habits,, he know the talent level of plum and tc is what it is. .. when MPJ was on in Jan malone had no problem with him- and tc was getting less min. Does any other coach in the NBA do that to guys that have star potential? Realistically Malone is just 2 years late on everything. How long did it take him to embrace Jokic for example as the centerpiece of his team? MPJ is a guy who needs pats on the back from his coach. You can tell he's not a high confidence player at all in the NBA yet. Instead Malone just trashes him and yanks him whenever he makes a mistake. Nah, the leash is getting longer. There's no doubt. 25 minutes is a lot for a rookie who wasn't playing that well and hasn't really been practicing for 4 months. One thing to remember is that Malone used to play Mudiay a fuckton of minutes and it probably ended up being not the best thing for his development. I always say coaches are continually learning just like players are. Maybe Malone learned something from the Mudiay days. And yeah a lot of coaches would bring "star" players along at the right pace. Remember MPJ is barely a rookie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 19:37:32 GMT -5
Does any other coach in the NBA do that to guys that have star potential? Realistically Malone is just 2 years late on everything. How long did it take him to embrace Jokic for example as the centerpiece of his team? MPJ is a guy who needs pats on the back from his coach. You can tell he's not a high confidence player at all in the NBA yet. Instead Malone just trashes him and yanks him whenever he makes a mistake. Nah, the leash is getting longer. There's no doubt. 25 minutes is a lot for a rookie who wasn't playing that well and hasn't really been practicing for 4 months. One thing to remember is that Malone used to play Mudiay a fuckton of minutes and it probably ended up being not the best thing for his development. I always say coaches are continually learning just like players are. Maybe Malone learned something from the Mudiay days. And yeah a lot of coaches would bring "star" players along at the right pace. Remember MPJ is barely a rookie. Again he really only played 20 minutes. The last 5 were garbage time. And is the leash actually getting longer? I'd be willing to bet money Craig would have played over him today if everyone was healthy.
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Post by brick2 on Aug 1, 2020 19:50:14 GMT -5
Nah, the leash is getting longer. There's no doubt. 25 minutes is a lot for a rookie who wasn't playing that well and hasn't really been practicing for 4 months. One thing to remember is that Malone used to play Mudiay a fuckton of minutes and it probably ended up being not the best thing for his development. I always say coaches are continually learning just like players are. Maybe Malone learned something from the Mudiay days. And yeah a lot of coaches would bring "star" players along at the right pace. Remember MPJ is barely a rookie. Again he really only played 20 minutes. The last 5 were garbage time. And is the leash actually getting longer? I'd be willing to bet money Craig would have played over him today if everyone was healthy. If he didn't get minutes in garbage time you'd be bitching that he wasn't getting minutes in garbage time. Come on man.
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