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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 14:50:18 GMT -5
We are unfortunately a bottom playoff team at best (45-48 wins, 7-8 seed). We are too far behind the good teams. They're probably going to finish 4th or 5th but there's almost no doubt they're losing in the 1st round if Malone is going to continue to do everything humanely possible to stop his own team from scoring and having fun.
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Post by Dunkman on Aug 1, 2020 14:50:33 GMT -5
I'm really just hoping we don't end up 7th...
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Post by odvala on Aug 1, 2020 14:51:53 GMT -5
MPJ isn't gonna play again this season after his effort this half. He should just request a trade considering he's the only player on the team that gets held accountable for his mistakes. Doncic, Trae, Tatum, Ja Morant, Fox, Mitchell, SGA etc. All the young top tier talents improve individually while playing 30+ minutes per game while starting. (Their teams improve as well) We gonna coach our top tier talent on the bench and get kill his self-confidence every time he makes a mistake on D. Malone is stuck in 80's and 90's when it comes to basketball philosophy.
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Post by inyourmind on Aug 1, 2020 14:52:20 GMT -5
Nuggets without 3 starters, haven't been able to practice and run 5 vs 5's for like 90% of the bubble, what did people expect? If you thought anything other than that there was a 75% chance of a blowout than it's on you, not the Nuggets lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 14:52:24 GMT -5
The usual. It's funny how the entire time under Malone the Nuggets have had 3 issues. Turnovers, defense and 3 point shooting.
When there is no spacing turnovers happen and poor 3 point shooting happens. When your personnel isn't designed to be an elite defensive team, bad defense happens.
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Post by freakns on Aug 1, 2020 14:52:50 GMT -5
loosing, not an issue... effort, huge issue... 3pt shooting, man what a disaster.
but there is easy solution, fortunately. don't let sticky opening game threads, problem solved.
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Post by odvala on Aug 1, 2020 14:53:23 GMT -5
Nuggets without 3 starters, haven't been able to practice and run 5 vs 5's for like 90% of the bubble, what did people expect? If you thought anything other than that there was a 75% chance of a blowout than it's on you, not the Nuggets lol. excuse #284239
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Post by inyourmind on Aug 1, 2020 14:54:07 GMT -5
Nuggets talk just going to Nugget talk at this point I think lol half our team didn't get to the bubble super late. We were 3 starters. Like seriously what did people expect? Malone openly admitted that we haven't be able to run 5 on 5's in practice.
How we finish seeding wise should be the last of our worries IMO. It's literally shaping up that we'll be the most rusty/less practiced team in the league still in scrimmage mode.
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Post by rock on Aug 1, 2020 14:54:23 GMT -5
He should just request a trade considering he's the only player on the team that gets held accountable for his mistakes. Doncic, Trae, Tatum, Ja Morant, Fox, Mitchell, SGA etc. All the young top tier talents improve individually while playing 30+ minutes per game while starting. (Their teams improve as well) We gonna coach our top tier talent on the bench and get kill his self-confidence every time he makes a mistake on D. Malone is stuck in 80's and 90's when it comes to basketball philosophy. Yup. And now most of them are reaping the rewards. We need a new coach and a reset. Forget winning anything as currently constructed. We also need shooters. So keep Craig and plumlee of course
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 14:55:55 GMT -5
Nuggets without 3 starters, haven't been able to practice and run 5 vs 5's for like 90% of the bubble, what did people expect? If you thought anything other than that there was a 75% chance of a blowout than it's on you, not the Nuggets lol. I think most of us expected a blowout. The problem is Malone as usual keeps playing combinations that we know have never and will never worked. It's frustrating as f**k. How many times do we have to watch Craig/Millsap/Jokic play together and the team get f***ing killed? Millsap -20. Craig -19. I can't believe it. Two team worst.
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Post by odvala on Aug 1, 2020 14:56:32 GMT -5
Nuggets talk just going to Nugget talk at this point I think lol half our team didn't get to the bubble super late. We were 3 starters. Like seriously what did people expect? Malone openly admitted that we haven't be able to run 5 on 5's in practice. How we finish seeding wise should be the last of our worries IMO. It's literally shaping up that we'll be the most rusty/less practiced team in the league still in scrimmage mode. Dude, wake up. We were a huge pice of s**t when the season suspended. Open your eyes. Search for problems, not exuses...
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Post by Dunkman on Aug 1, 2020 14:56:44 GMT -5
Let's be clear I'm not a huge Malone guy but try to be honest about MPJ. His attitude is on the spoiled and shitty side for a young player and his effort is inconsistent. Malone should give him a longer leash but MPJ could help himself by growing up a bit. He basically missed 2 years and went from playing against kids to grown men. There's gonna be a learning curve.
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Post by inyourmind on Aug 1, 2020 14:57:24 GMT -5
The usual. It's funny how the entire time under Malone the Nuggets have had 3 issues. Turnovers, defense and 3 point shooting. When there is no spacing turnovers happen and poor 3 point shooting happens. When your personnel isn't designed to be an elite defensive team, bad defense happens. Huh? When has defense been as issue for us? We were like the 13th ranked team in Drtg this year, 7th best at defending the 3 point line. We were 7th in Drtg last year and literally the best team defending the 3 point line weren't we? Fair to go at Malone, your entitled to your opinion, but defense hasn't been an issue for us. I think the more rational argument against Malone is he sacrifices offense for defense at times, which I'd agree with.
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Post by Dunkman on Aug 1, 2020 14:57:56 GMT -5
Nuggets talk just going to Nugget talk at this point I think lol half our team didn't get to the bubble super late. We were 3 starters. Like seriously what did people expect? Malone openly admitted that we haven't be able to run 5 on 5's in practice. How we finish seeding wise should be the last of our worries IMO. It's literally shaping up that we'll be the most rusty/less practiced team in the league still in scrimmage mode. We looked exactly how we did before the hiatus.
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Post by inyourmind on Aug 1, 2020 15:00:12 GMT -5
Nuggets talk just going to Nugget talk at this point I think lol half our team didn't get to the bubble super late. We were 3 starters. Like seriously what did people expect? Malone openly admitted that we haven't be able to run 5 on 5's in practice. How we finish seeding wise should be the last of our worries IMO. It's literally shaping up that we'll be the most rusty/less practiced team in the league still in scrimmage mode. We looked exactly how we did before the hiatus. Which is to be expected ... we literally didn't get to run 5 on 5's in practice lmfao were down 3 starters. Like don't believe in this team, hate Malone, I won't argue .. but taking anything away from today's game just shows your looking to confirm whatever biases you have IMO. Nuggets are scrimmaging because half our team didn't show up to the bubble.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:03:15 GMT -5
The usual. It's funny how the entire time under Malone the Nuggets have had 3 issues. Turnovers, defense and 3 point shooting. When there is no spacing turnovers happen and poor 3 point shooting happens. When your personnel isn't designed to be an elite defensive team, bad defense happens. Huh? When has defense been as issue for us? We were like the 13th ranked team in Drtg this year, 7th best at defending the 3 point line. We were 7th in Drtg last year and literally the best team defending the 3 point line weren't we? Fair to go at Malone, your entitled to your opinion, but defense hasn't been an issue for us. I think the more rational argument against Malone is he sacrifices offense for defense at times, which I'd agree with. That number is severely inflated by the hot start they had in October/November when teams simply couldn't hit shots. Since 2020 began the Nuggets are 21st in defensive rating. The 3 point defense number means nothing to me. It's not relevant to how good your 3 point defense actually is. How many open looks to they give up a game from 3? How many late close outs on 3 point shooters lead to easy baskets? Those are much more relevant than just make/miss from 3 IMO.
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Post by rock on Aug 1, 2020 15:03:17 GMT -5
Even healthy we have no chance in the playoffs
We need MPJ to become a top 3 player. No one else can do it.
How long do we control MPJs right for?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:04:48 GMT -5
We looked exactly how we did before the hiatus. Which is to be expected ... we literally didn't get to run 5 on 5's in practice lmfao were down 3 starters. Like don't believe in this team, hate Malone, I won't argue .. but taking anything away from today's game just shows your looking to confirm whatever biases you have IMO. Nuggets are scrimmaging because half our team didn't show up to the bubble. The one thing I'm taking away from this game is that Craig and Plumlee are gonna play a lot in the playoffs, the Nuggets are going to lose in the first round and Malone is going to keep his job. First round exit, didn't develop his young players and instead played free agents over them who hopefully won't be back next year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:05:42 GMT -5
Even healthy we have no chance in the playoffs We need MPJ to become a top 3 player. No one else can do it. How long do we control MPJs right for? 2 more seasons and then they'll match whatever contract he gets in RFA. Can almost guarantee if it was up to MPJ he'd be gone already. There's no way he can enjoy getting coached by Malone considering he's the only player Malone EVER makes an example out of.
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Post by rock on Aug 1, 2020 15:07:30 GMT -5
Even healthy we have no chance in the playoffs We need MPJ to become a top 3 player. No one else can do it. How long do we control MPJs right for? 2 more seasons and then they'll match whatever contract he gets in RFA. Can almost guarantee if it was up to MPJ he'd be gone already. There's no way he can enjoy getting coached by Malone considering he's the only player Malone EVER makes an example out of. f**k
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