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Post by odvala on Feb 7, 2020 12:34:56 GMT -5
Nice to see that he is excited to be here. I'm sure he is happy to be on winning squad!
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Post by GBG on Feb 7, 2020 12:49:42 GMT -5
Most likely to be here beyond this season? Obviously, KBD since he’s got a team option for next season and is cheap. Vonleh and McRae are UFAs after this season. Since the Nuggets graphics department put Jordan front and center, I would say Vonleh is most likely not to be here next season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 12:58:55 GMT -5
Jokic would literally dominate anywhere. He just dominated a game on the road, 2nd night of a back to back against a playoff team with Torrey Craig, PJ Dozier, Vlatko Cancar and Gary Harris who went 0-13. As long as the team he went to had a coach with a brain and let him do his thing, he'd dominate anywhere. No, he wouldn't. Put him on Rockets. You think he would be dominant there? He would be useful cause he is high BBIQ guy, but he wouldn't dominate on that team. Same goes for Milwaukee. Jokic needs slashers, cutters, guys who constantly move, and he will get them the ball. Thats not Milwaukee. Or Utah... There are teams where he would be good, but not dominant. However, put him on Boston? Main title contenders, easily. He would be so good around those guys, its ridiculous. Same goes with Philly instead of Embiid. Put him and Simmons together, they would destroy the world. Its same if you watch him with or without Murray. Jokic was good against Milwaukee, but he wasn't dominant. He was really good last month. But last two games, with Murray back? That was MVP Jokic. Cause Murray and Jokic, they feed of each other. He is good with Barton and Garris, but not near the lvl he is good with Murray. I think he will be good with MPJ too, but not as good as he is with Murray, cause Jokic makes everyone better, but Murray makes him better too. That is so rare to see. I entirely disagree. You can put Jokic on any team and he will dominate as long as you give him the ball. If you put him on the Jazz or Bucks, they'd dominate. Those teams have shooting and length. If you put him on the Jazz instead of Gobert they'd be a legitimate contender. Houston would be dominant too. Russ/Jokic PnR, Harden/Jokic PnR. Would be unstoppable.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 7, 2020 12:59:00 GMT -5
the fact that we've been linked with Vonleh multiple times makes me think hes our Plumlee replacement longterm
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 13:43:25 GMT -5
the fact that we've been linked with Vonleh multiple times makes me think hes our Plumlee replacement longterm Think it depends on the market for Plumlee to be honest. Like if he's only getting contracts for like 5M per season I think you gotta bring him back. He's good insurance for Jokic and the team knows him. I'm high on Vonleh though. Think he plays tomorrow.
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Feb 7, 2020 13:47:26 GMT -5
Is it still snowing in Denver? Will the new guys make it to Phoenix?
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Post by GBG on Feb 7, 2020 14:07:05 GMT -5
Vonleh top ten highlights from last season. He’s an impressive athlete for a big... youtu.be/x0LPnHCH2g4
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Feb 7, 2020 14:40:13 GMT -5
Don't know much about McRae but he seems like a good dude and he averaged 30/5/4 in the G-League last year. He has the league record at 61 points set a few years ago and put up 54 just last year. Doesn't seem to be the purest shooter ever but definitely a great scorer. It'll be interesting to see how much time he gets in the rotation. With Gary always hurt he should get some decent chances but I'm sure Malone will still play Craig over him in 90% of situations.
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Post by jimijam28 on Feb 7, 2020 15:10:56 GMT -5
Is it still snowing in Denver? Will the new guys make it to Phoenix? i think AI is going to make it
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Post by passtheballquick on Feb 7, 2020 18:11:49 GMT -5
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Post by blackhill on Feb 7, 2020 23:01:00 GMT -5
Jordan better be smoothing that one out before Joker's colossal brother puts him in a choke hold. Joker's brother is a scary dude. Almost as scary as Joker's girlfriend. I don;t know what she is screaming at games but I am sure her outbursts have Joker to the barn to seek refuge with his equestrian pals
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Post by scooter on Feb 8, 2020 12:39:22 GMT -5
Most likely to be here beyond this season? Obviously, KBD since he’s got a team option for next season and is cheap. Vonleh and McRae are UFAs after this season. Since the Nuggets graphics department put Jordan front and center, I would say Vonleh is most likely not to be here next season. I don't think we can know. It's a tryout for all of them, and for the remainder of this season, that's a lot about what level of work ethic, unselfishness and chemistry they show. I think Vonleh is viewed as a competitor with Plumlee for the backup C position for next season, although there will be other FA options as well. But the Nuggets will give Vonleh a look. KBD's cheap option makes it likely he'll be back, although if the team brings back both Millsap and Grant (which I think is more likely than GBG believes), since Cancar is under contract, I don't know how many PFs the team needs for next season. KBD is seen as a combo forward, but like Grant, he's played the vast majority of his recent minutes at PF. If Millsap and Grant are both back, the team might opt in to KBD's contract and try to use him in a package deal. But we'll see.
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Post by alchemist76 on Feb 8, 2020 12:58:24 GMT -5
Jokic would literally dominate anywhere. He just dominated a game on the road, 2nd night of a back to back against a playoff team with Torrey Craig, PJ Dozier, Vlatko Cancar and Gary Harris who went 0-13. As long as the team he went to had a coach with a brain and let him do his thing, he'd dominate anywhere. No, he wouldn't. Put him on Rockets. You think he would be dominant there? He would be useful cause he is high BBIQ guy, but he wouldn't dominate on that team. Same goes for Milwaukee. Jokic needs slashers, cutters, guys who constantly move, and he will get them the ball. Thats not Milwaukee. Or Utah... There are teams where he would be good, but not dominant. However, put him on Boston? Main title contenders, easily. He would be so good around those guys, its ridiculous. Same goes with Philly instead of Embiid. Put him and Simmons together, they would destroy the world. Its same if you watch him with or without Murray. Jokic was good against Milwaukee, but he wasn't dominant. He was really good last month. But last two games, with Murray back? That was MVP Jokic. Cause Murray and Jokic, they feed of each other. He is good with Barton and Garris, but not near the lvl he is good with Murray. I think he will be good with MPJ too, but not as good as he is with Murray, cause Jokic makes everyone better, but Murray makes him better too. That is so rare to see. Jamal is a better player than Will and Garry. Better shooter, better scorer, better passes, smarter. The other two are better defenders.
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Post by scooter on Feb 8, 2020 13:05:53 GMT -5
BTW, I listened to a podcast with Adam Mares talking about the TWolves trade, and I strongly disagree with his take that it was a big win for the TWolves. He apparently forgot about the fact they traded their 2021 FRP protected only 1-3 (turning theoretically into an unprotected 2022 pick) in order to get rid of Wiggins. So yea, they temporarily made KAT happy and got rid of Wiggins. But Russell ain't that great either, to my eyes their current roster is likely to be all kinds of terrible defensively (they are bad this season and downgraded from bad with their trades), and not nearly good enough offensively to make up for it.
Maybe they'll surprise me, but I'm betting they'll wind up conveying a top 5 pick to GS just when they need to rebuild again.
I think they would have been better off just riding out this losing season and shopping Towns. He's super talented, but a jerk who doesn't try at all on defense. Maybe he'll try a little bit more playing with his buddy Russell, but its not any kind of lasting solution.
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Post by JB on Feb 8, 2020 15:41:05 GMT -5
Russell is a good enough #2 to compete for a lower seed in the West, especially with the likelihood of OKC dropping out of the playoff race this summer (unless you think it's Presti's goal to emulate the post-Melo Nuggets).
there is nothing more demoralizing to a team than paying the max to a guy that plays with the same effort and passion for the game as Trey Lyles. the Warriors are about to learn that lesson.
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Post by fortcollinsnuggets on Feb 8, 2020 16:25:16 GMT -5
Giannis is not going to the warriors.lol. He is happy in Milwaukee, isn't a I have to be in the Big city type. Now that doesn't mean he isn't going to leave but the Warriors are on the decline Curry be 32 next year fwiw and Green isn't a star.
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Post by fortcollinsnuggets on Feb 8, 2020 16:30:01 GMT -5
KAT and Russell both soft as baby tissue. They might compete for the 7,8th spot next year or could stay lottery bound. KAT the softest player I'd have seen in a long time and I am an Illini fan, who have had some soft bugs the last 15 years. KAT so soft that it's the reason Jimmy Butler wanted no part of playing with him.Russell has had one good year out of multiple years in League and has been moved multiple times.
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Post by blackhill on Feb 8, 2020 16:37:33 GMT -5
When KAT used to come to practice, Jimmy would bully him and make him feel sad. Now, the Golden Retriever will shower him with hugs & kisses. Along the way, KAT will discover that winning means being loved, even if they lose every game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 16:42:52 GMT -5
Russell is a good enough #2 to compete for a lower seed in the West, especially with the likelihood of OKC dropping out of the playoff race this summer (unless you think it's Presti's goal to emulate the post-Melo Nuggets). there is nothing more demoralizing to a team than paying the max to a guy that plays with the same effort and passion for the game as Trey Lyles. the Warriors are about to learn that lesson. Yeah no clue how people don't like the move from the Wolves perspective. Russell-Beasley-KAT is a pretty lethal 3 point shooting trio. They'll be terrible defensivley but a ton of fun
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Post by ThePoopSmith on Feb 8, 2020 16:59:05 GMT -5
Russell is a good enough #2 to compete for a lower seed in the West, especially with the likelihood of OKC dropping out of the playoff race this summer (unless you think it's Presti's goal to emulate the post-Melo Nuggets). there is nothing more demoralizing to a team than paying the max to a guy that plays with the same effort and passion for the game as Trey Lyles. the Warriors are about to learn that lesson. Yeah no clue how people don't like the move from the Wolves perspective. Russell-Beasley-KAT is a pretty lethal 3 point shooting trio. They'll be terrible defensivley but a ton of fun I mean they’ll be a fun 7-9 seed to watch next year. Seems like a pretty big let down coming from a team who had KAT, Butler, Teague, Wiggins, etc and thought they could actually compete for a championship. Trash franchise.
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