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Post by duh88 on Feb 7, 2019 1:42:36 GMT -5
Take this to the bank: NO is not getting good offers for AD.
Minny got two players with potential for Butler - Saric and Covington. They didn’t even get a first.
TC is basically offering Garris and a first - that’s better than saric and Covington.
I’ve heard these might be the other offers on the table:
NYK: Mudiay and Knox and a 2nd rounder
LAC: 2 first rounders
Brooklyn: Levert or Dinwiddie, and a first
Have no clue what Boston is promising but I’ve been told that Tatum isn’t involved.
The Lakers had the best deal and NO blew it. Lakers might re-emerge on nba draft night, but they’ll offer much less if so (2 of kuzma, Ingram, Ball, along with a first).
Granted - one of these teams may overreach and offer more firsts tomorrow.
Overall - Garris and a first has a fighting chance. Garris and 2 first may just get it done.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 1:47:32 GMT -5
KD would get eaten the f**k alive by the NY media. I mean, to a comical level Kev - in Denver they care about the Broncos practice squad linebackers more than the nuggets. The toughest questions you'll get are: Harrison Wind/TJ McBride types: "Can I have your autograph? I've been a basketball fan since the beginning... of your time with the Warriors." 104.3 The Fan/local news: ... I can't even blame the guy for getting annoyed though man. I can't stand KD. He ruined the NBA. But it must be annoying as hell to get asked about stuff that they know you can't answer every single day of your life. They know he can't talk about his free agency yet continually ask. And the media is basically teflon because they can throw out whatever the hell they want and just put "sources" behind it. There is basically no responsibility for media. Just write whatever you want and put sources behind it. Worst case scenario you just say plans changed or fell through. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 1:51:34 GMT -5
The Minnesota situation is different as he was a FA at the end of the season. They definitely didn't get a great haul but lets not pretend like Butler doesn't have character concerns that AD doesn't. He's also much older.
That Knicks offer is laughable too. I refuse to believe a GM would even make a call with that offer. Hey we'll give you one of the worst players in the NBA, a rookie who shoots 37 from the field and a 2nd. Like come on. It's just not even a believable offer.
When AD gets traded to Boston it'll be for Tatum, Brown and picks. Nobody is getting a top 5 player like that for s**t. Doesn't matter if the Pelicans don't have leverage. Teams will offer whatever is possible to get a guy of his talent and age as long as he commits long-term.
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Post by rock on Feb 7, 2019 1:59:52 GMT -5
Please don’t trade mpj He’s the only thing giving me hope for our future A 23 year old triple double machine who gets along with everyone doesn't give you any hope? In any event, I do think the Nuggets are hesitant to trade Porter Jr. because he has a ton of talent. We have that triple double machine right now, and we probably aren't even winning a single series this year We are so far from contending it's ridiculous. Now how does TC get us from where we are now to there? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 2:01:33 GMT -5
A 23 year old triple double machine who gets along with everyone doesn't give you any hope? In any event, I do think the Nuggets are hesitant to trade Porter Jr. because he has a ton of talent. We have that triple double machine right now, and we probably aren't even winning a single series this year We are so far from contending it's ridiculous. Now how does TC get us from where we are now to there? Cross his fingers that MPJ turns into Kevin Durant. That's the plan. That's the only way this team is going to turn into a contender without a big move. The personnel doesn't fit long-term for what you need to win a Championship. Unless MPJ turns into Durant. |
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Post by duh88 on Feb 7, 2019 2:02:25 GMT -5
The Minnesota situation is different as he was a FA at the end of the season. They definitely didn't get a great haul but lets not pretend like Butler doesn't have character concerns that AD doesn't. He's also much older. That Knicks offer is laughable too. I refuse to believe a GM would even make a call with that offer. Hey we'll give you one of the worst players in the NBA, a rookie who shoots 37 from the field and a 2nd. Like come on. It's just not even a believable offer. When AD gets traded to Boston it'll be for Tatum, Brown and picks. Nobody is getting a top 5 player like that for s**t. Doesn't matter if the Pelicans don't have leverage. Teams will offer whatever is possible to get a guy of his talent and age as long as he commits long-term. That’s the problem. He isn’t committing long term to anyone but the lakers. Yes, he released his list of preferred destinations - doesn’t mean he’s signing long term. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 2:04:06 GMT -5
The Minnesota situation is different as he was a FA at the end of the season. They definitely didn't get a great haul but lets not pretend like Butler doesn't have character concerns that AD doesn't. He's also much older. That Knicks offer is laughable too. I refuse to believe a GM would even make a call with that offer. Hey we'll give you one of the worst players in the NBA, a rookie who shoots 37 from the field and a 2nd. Like come on. It's just not even a believable offer. When AD gets traded to Boston it'll be for Tatum, Brown and picks. Nobody is getting a top 5 player like that for s**t. Doesn't matter if the Pelicans don't have leverage. Teams will offer whatever is possible to get a guy of his talent and age as long as he commits long-term. That’s the problem. He isn’t committing long term to anyone but the lakers. Yes, he released his list of preferred destinations - doesn’t mean he’s signing long term. That list is the teams that he would commit to long-term no? Why else would he put out a list? Who cares where he wants to go as a rental? That doesn't even make sense. And just today reports dropped that he has as much interest in the Knicks as he does the Lakers. It'll take Zion + more for them to get him. |
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Post by duh88 on Feb 7, 2019 2:05:06 GMT -5
Also just want to add - all of my info on this is from LA agencies. Zero from the Nuggets FO.
The nuggets FO is a tight ship - leaks rarely get out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 2:10:36 GMT -5
BTW it hasn't been talked about yet I think but what does everyone think about the Pelicans leaking stuff to mess with the Lakers young core as their way of getting revenge for the Lakers tampering with AD?
Pretty boss move IMO. Screw LA.
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Post by game on Feb 7, 2019 2:18:43 GMT -5
Rich Paul and the Lakers ruin anybody and everybody to get what they want.
Good for New Orleans refusing to give into a f***ing hostage situation and retaliating.
Rich Paul made this a spectacle to try to pressure NO. NO just played in the public mud pit Rich Paul created. He tried to make the Pelicans look bad to gain a negotiating position. The Pelicans just hit back in kind.
Lost a lot of respect for LeBron throughout this whole thing.
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Post by duh88 on Feb 7, 2019 3:11:45 GMT -5
Rich Paul and the Lakers ruin anybody and everybody to get what they want. Good for New Orleans refusing to give into a f***ing hostage situation and retaliating. Rich Paul made this a spectacle to try to pressure NO. NO just played in the public mud pit Rich Paul created. He tried to make the Pelicans look bad to gain a negotiating position. The Pelicans just hit back in kind. Lost a lot of respect for LeBron throughout this whole thing. Agreed. However - LA did make the best offer (Kuzma, Ball, Ingram and a first) for AD. You could have flipped that and turned Kuzma, Ingram and Ball into 3 to 4 firsts. I don't know why NO didn't take it? I love that they didn't, but I don't think they're going to get a better offer. |
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Post by rock on Feb 7, 2019 3:25:04 GMT -5
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Feb 7, 2019 5:12:56 GMT -5
Apparently Mike Conley doesn't want to play in Utah and would prefer the Eastern Conference.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 7, 2019 5:36:56 GMT -5
Faried had zero value. His contract was an albatross. Gallo - sure - should’ve traded sooner, but hard to do that to a guy who was a franchise corner stone for awhile. He was also badly injured. Chandler - I think you’re overinflatibg his value. No one was going to give a first for chandler. Faried 2-3 years ago had some value. As did Chandler. Chandler was rumored to net a late 1st from OKC the last year Gallo was here. We didn't want to give him up for the playoff push. And of course we missed the playoffs. The point is that Tim will never make a big trade because he's not a complete GM. He's a phenomenal scout/drafter and that's all. He's way too nice a guy and cares way too much about people's feelings. It's a business. Improve your team. Still want him extended though. I love you man but this makes no sense. TC has traded Mozgov for TWO 1st round picks. Man can trade. The lack of a "big" trade means nothing. And this whole it's a business stick may have worked 5 years ago but stars don't wanna play for a guy that might trade you at any point. |
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Post by eathb on Feb 7, 2019 5:39:09 GMT -5
I want AD not gonna lie
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 7, 2019 5:39:25 GMT -5
A 23 year old triple double machine who gets along with everyone doesn't give you any hope? In any event, I do think the Nuggets are hesitant to trade Porter Jr. because he has a ton of talent. We have that triple double machine right now, and we probably aren't even winning a single series this year We are so far from contending it's ridiculous. Now how does TC get us from where we are now to there? We are so far from contending because we have the youngest rotation in the league. You always want to skip steps rock. Just let them make the playoffs and let them lose and gain experience. Stop living in a pretend world guys. We have the 2nd best team in the western conference. But I tried to warn y'all we would lose these games. We will lose more games to end the season too, like it or not. |
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Post by flo on Feb 7, 2019 5:45:31 GMT -5
I'm quite shocked by all the pessimism around here. I would guess that this season would finally cheer you up a little... Maybe is winter too long in Colorado ? As far as I'm concerned I'm having a ball.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 5:48:53 GMT -5
Faried 2-3 years ago had some value. As did Chandler. Chandler was rumored to net a late 1st from OKC the last year Gallo was here. We didn't want to give him up for the playoff push. And of course we missed the playoffs. The point is that Tim will never make a big trade because he's not a complete GM. He's a phenomenal scout/drafter and that's all. He's way too nice a guy and cares way too much about people's feelings. It's a business. Improve your team. Still want him extended though. I love you man but this makes no sense. TC has traded Mozgov for TWO 1st round picks. Man can trade. The lack of a "big" trade means nothing. And this whole it's a business stick may have worked 5 years ago but stars don't wanna play for a guy that might trade you at any point. Stars don't get traded like that, role players do. How many legitimate stars get traded in this league without wanting out? Only one I can think of is IT and every GM in the league would have made that trade. And correct he traded Mozgov for 2 1sts. That did nothing to help our team at the deadline and at that time it was fine. We're in a playoff race. We're fighting for home court. Improve the team. Rockets made a trade already to improve their team. Kings did. Lakers tried. OKC will get a buyout player. Portland made a trade. The Jazz tried (are still trying?) to trade for Conley. Every team in the Western playoff race is making moves and Tim is just sitting on his hands. The whole point of the trade deadline is for good teams to improve their team for the playoff push and bad teams to sell high. You can't tell me that Juancho/Lyles don't need to be replaced in the rotation. They both are absolutely terrible basketball players on the defensive end. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 5:50:23 GMT -5
I'm quite shocked by all the pessimism around here. I would guess that this season would finally cheer you up a little... Maybe is winter too long in Colorado ? As far as I'm concerned I'm having a ball. It's been an awesome season and still IMO way better than anyone could have expected. That being said...all it takes is a 5 game losing streak and you're in big trouble in the West. Can't get complacent. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 7, 2019 5:56:02 GMT -5
I love you man but this makes no sense. TC has traded Mozgov for TWO 1st round picks. Man can trade. The lack of a "big" trade means nothing. And this whole it's a business stick may have worked 5 years ago but stars don't wanna play for a guy that might trade you at any point. Stars don't get traded like that, role players do. How many legitimate stars get traded in this league without wanting out? Only one I can think of is IT and every GM in the league would have made that trade. And correct he traded Mozgov for 2 1sts. That did nothing to help our team at the deadline and at that time it was fine. We're in a playoff race. We're fighting for home court. Improve the team. Rockets made a trade already to improve their team. Kings did. Lakers tried. OKC will get a buyout player. Portland made a trade. The Jazz tried (are still trying?) to trade for Conley. Every team in the Western playoff race is making moves and Tim is just sitting on his hands. The whole point of the trade deadline is for good teams to improve their team for the playoff push and bad teams to sell high. You can't tell me that Juancho/Lyles don't need to be replaced in the rotation. They both are absolutely terrible basketball players on the defensive end. every trade and move he has made have made the team what it is today. TC unlike you don't skip steps. You say the problem is TC don't make star trades but is jelly about not getting Rodney Hood. Newsflash... Rodney Hood is no big player. And we are obviously getting a buyout player too man. |
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