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Post by Dante on Apr 5, 2024 0:08:42 GMT -5
Somehow i have a feeling that we should go for 2nd seed and let T-Wolves get the #1.
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 5, 2024 0:10:39 GMT -5
Somehow i have a feeling that we should go for 2nd seed and let T-Wolves get the #1. Have you watched Nuggets with tired Jokic in PO's before? That's not the same player
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Post by rock on Apr 5, 2024 0:11:42 GMT -5
Somehow i have a feeling that we should go for 2nd seed and let T-Wolves get the #1. Go for? Explain how. We would need to probably go 5-0 to finsih the season. That has no chance of happening.
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Post by eathb on Apr 5, 2024 0:12:01 GMT -5
I love Braun's development this season, and I think we've found something for him in a backup PG role too.
Watson and Reggie's regression hurts though, I question whether extended starters minutes in playoffs will be enough.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Apr 5, 2024 0:12:53 GMT -5
Resting Jokic could get us the 4 or 5 seed. That's a death knell for our championship aspirations. Teams don't win championships from the 3 seed lower. How can it cost us 5th seed, please explain. This team with rested Jokic will win on the road, and with tired Jokic will lose even with hc We don't just just magically win on the road on top of that it guarantees a much harder 1st round game. Not even the greatest if greats win playoff series multiple times lacking himecourt. Doesn't happen on top of the fact that if you are that low of seed there's probably something structurally wrong with your team.
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Post by Dante on Apr 5, 2024 0:13:23 GMT -5
Somehow i have a feeling that we should go for 2nd seed and let T-Wolves get the #1. Have you watched Nuggets with tired Jokic in PO's before? That's not the same player Would you rather watch Jokic battle in the paint/post vs Davis,Gobert,Reid,Nurkic in the first 2 rounds or Sabonis,Valanciunas,Gafford,Holmgren? Guess which Jokic will be more fresh for the finals?
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 5, 2024 0:13:54 GMT -5
I love Braun's development this season, and I think we've found something for him in a backup PG role too. Watson and Reggie's regression hurts though, I question whether extended starters minutes in playoffs will be enough. If Jokic plays till the end we're not coming out of the west
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Post by JB on Apr 5, 2024 0:13:55 GMT -5
should have anticipated Watson's "regression". this is essentially his rookie season and he still has to develop.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Apr 5, 2024 0:15:23 GMT -5
Somehow i have a feeling that we should go for 2nd seed and let T-Wolves get the #1. Have you watched Nuggets with tired Jokic in PO's before? That's not the same player The tired Jokic trope while nor a zero concern is less a concern for me. The guy is an iron man. Our issues in last 4-5 years if playoffs isn't him getting tired it's other guys being injured. Outside of POR and LAL we haven't lost eith Murray and JOKIc on court.
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 5, 2024 0:15:58 GMT -5
Have you watched Nuggets with tired Jokic in PO's before? That's not the same player Would you rather watch Jokic battle in the paint/post vs Davis,Gobert,Reid,Nurkic in the first 2 rounds or Sabonis,Valanciunas,Gafford,Holmgren? Guess which Jokic will be more fresh for the finals? He's going to have to fight against those no matter what. Rested Jokic will battle against everybody 40mins a game and tired Jokic will be missing bunnies and taking and missing 3's
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Post by Dante on Apr 5, 2024 0:16:27 GMT -5
should have anticipated Watson's "regression". this is essentially his rookie season and he still has to develop. Bigger problem is that as the playoffs are around the corner he looks more and more timid and scared instead of having more and more poise and confidence like CB last year heading into the PO.
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Post by GBG on Apr 5, 2024 0:20:16 GMT -5
Last year we had two good bench players (BB and rookie Braun). This year we have one (Braun). RJ is below average but can be hidden sharing floor with Jokic 10 mpg, and Watson is too young and mistake-prone, hence below average. Holiday is a vet who will see action, but he’s average at best, not good.
I just don’t see how we can repeat with only one good bench player. It’s unrealistic.
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Post by Dante on Apr 5, 2024 0:20:27 GMT -5
Would you rather watch Jokic battle in the paint/post vs Davis,Gobert,Reid,Nurkic in the first 2 rounds or Sabonis,Valanciunas,Gafford,Holmgren? Guess which Jokic will be more fresh for the finals? He's going to have to fight against those no matter what. Rested Jokic will battle against everybody 40mins a game and tired Jokic will be missing bunnies and taking and missing 3's Post ASB Jokic is doing exactly what he should. That is playing more minutes (getting cardio for the playoffs) and taking more 3s (which he will again have to take and make at/around 40% mark). It's BS narrative that you need a big rest in order to be ready for the playoffs. He will have 7 days which is more than enough for a professional athlete. I am more worried about Jamal's cardio than Jokic to be honest.
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 5, 2024 0:20:31 GMT -5
Have you watched Nuggets with tired Jokic in PO's before? That's not the same player The tired Jokic trope while nor a zero concern is less a concern for me. The guy is an iron man. Our issues in last 4-5 years if playoffs isn't him getting tired it's other guys being injured. Outside of POR and LAL we haven't lost eith Murray and JOKIc on court. Just check Jokic's efficiency numbers in 2 years prior to title and you'll see
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Post by Dante on Apr 5, 2024 0:23:06 GMT -5
Last year we had two good bench players (BB and rookie Braun). This year we have one (Braun). RJ is below average but can be hidden sharing floor with Jokic 10 mpg, and Watson is too young and mistake-prone, hence below average. Holiday is a vet who will see action, but he’s average at best, not good. I just don’t see how we can repeat with only one good bench player. It’s unrealistic. Let me tell you how. Jokic similar performance as last playoffs at minimum. Jamal similar performance as last playoffs at minimum. AG similar performance as last playoffs at minimum (plus making his FT's and open 3) KCP similar performance as last playoffs at minimum. CB similar and better than last year. And the biggest trump card is MPJ having way better performance than last year both shooting the ball and not being liability on defense.
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 5, 2024 0:25:10 GMT -5
He's going to have to fight against those no matter what. Rested Jokic will battle against everybody 40mins a game and tired Jokic will be missing bunnies and taking and missing 3's Post ASB Jokic is doing exactly what he should. That is playing more minutes (getting cardio for the playoffs) and taking more 3s (which he will again have to take and make at/around 40% mark). It's BS narrative that you need a big rest in order to be ready for the playoffs. He will have 7 days which is more than enough for a professional athlete. I am more worried about Jamal's cardio than Jokic to be honest. Why didn't he play for Serbia then. Professional athlete, he could lol
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Post by wizardofcozz on Apr 5, 2024 0:25:57 GMT -5
He's going to have to fight against those no matter what. Rested Jokic will battle against everybody 40mins a game and tired Jokic will be missing bunnies and taking and missing 3's Post ASB Jokic is doing exactly what he should. That is playing more minutes (getting cardio for the playoffs) and taking more 3s (which he will again have to take and make at/around 40% mark). It's BS narrative that you need a big rest in order to be ready for the playoffs. He will have 7 days which is more than enough for a professional athlete. I am more worried about Jamal's cardio than Jokic to be honest. This x 1000
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Post by Dante on Apr 5, 2024 0:28:12 GMT -5
Post ASB Jokic is doing exactly what he should. That is playing more minutes (getting cardio for the playoffs) and taking more 3s (which he will again have to take and make at/around 40% mark). It's BS narrative that you need a big rest in order to be ready for the playoffs. He will have 7 days which is more than enough for a professional athlete. I am more worried about Jamal's cardio than Jokic to be honest. Why didn't he play for Serbia then. Professional athlete, he could lol As i remember corectly the last time he played for Serbia we spanked the hell out of you in the 3rd quarter while your coach was "resting" Jokic for god knows why and playing Miliutinov. The same Jokic that average 40+ minutes for entire playoff run was playing 25 or less minutes for your national team in Eurobasket.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Apr 5, 2024 0:28:25 GMT -5
The tired Jokic trope while nor a zero concern is less a concern for me. The guy is an iron man. Our issues in last 4-5 years if playoffs isn't him getting tired it's other guys being injured. Outside of POR and LAL we haven't lost eith Murray and JOKIc on court. Just check Jokic's efficiency numbers in 2 years prior to title and you'll see You mean the two years he had to share the court with Facu and Will Burton? His efficiency was lower cause the team around him was worse. Not cause he was tired. They were a lower seed in those series cause they weren't good enough. We didn't lose cause of tired Jokic we lost cause we had to rely on Moris, Facu, and Austin freaking Rivers for major minutes. Again that was a team structural problem not a Jokis is tired problem.
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 5, 2024 0:28:35 GMT -5
Have you watched Nuggets with tired Jokic in PO's before? That's not the same player The tired Jokic trope while nor a zero concern is less a concern for me. The guy is an iron man. Our issues in last 4-5 years if playoffs isn't him getting tired it's other guys being injured. Outside of POR and LAL we haven't lost eith Murray and JOKIc on court. We lost 2 out of 3 series with Jokic and Jamal and the only one that we won was because both of them had 2 weeks of rest before PO's
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