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Post by toadjunior on Feb 19, 2004 14:18:28 GMT -5
How two posters can come onto a board, and bring out the worse in the decent posters that are here.
Have you guys not figured out yet, that these two are TROLLS, and are out to flame, and make you other guys look like idiots for arguing with them.
"You can't argue with an idiot, because they will bring it down to their level, and beat you with experience."
Here is a thought. IGNORE THEM. Do not reply to their posts. Did you notice that one of them is already up to a Warning level of 3 in 19 POSTS.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Feb 19, 2004 14:57:46 GMT -5
Actually the one is up to a warning level of 5, meaning he's gone.
It's like a game -- troll comes on the board with the intent of stirring up trouble. Board members try to get the troll banned by the admin. Now, I've studied a little game theory, and I've come to the conclusion that the optimal solution from the "board member" perspective depends very much on the admin. For example, on the boards where I am or was the admin, I give trolls a single warning ("you're trolling, knock it off or be banned") and then ban them, so the optimal solution for the board members is to ignore him ("don't feed the troll".) But on this board, the troll only gets banned if he actually breaks the rules 5 times, or to break them badly one time -- so the optimal solution for the board members is to get him to break the rules 5 times (strategy: feed the troll a moderate amount, or countertroll.) On other boards, the guy won't get banned no matter what, so the optimal strategy is to have fun with him until you get bored and then ignore him. On usenet, everyone is their own admin, so the optimal strategy is to simply ban him (ie, killfile him) yourself.
Since the inception of the warning system, countertrolling seems to have worked pretty well.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Feb 19, 2004 15:27:13 GMT -5
Correction: both have reached warning level 5. Thanks rock ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by rock on Feb 19, 2004 15:56:12 GMT -5
no prob.
"new" posters (i have my doubts on those two) have need to come onto this board and show that they are here to discuss the nuggets and provide quality posts. meaning dont make your first 20 posts insulting or argumentative. thats not the way to make friends nor prove that you deserve respect. they need to establish themselves as quality posters FIRST then go ahead and argue their points. if not they look exactly like trolls which is not acceptable.
eg. if two posters who have been around for a year and have 500+ posts argued back and forth in a heated debate, i wouldnt warn either of them (assuming insults are not thrown around). why? because we know they are good posters and debating certain points is fine. but when newbies come in and just start fights...thats not good.
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Post by TroyF on Feb 19, 2004 16:53:53 GMT -5
Toad,
I just have fun with em, that's all. A big part of it, as Lothar stated is to get them to throw insults at you without insulting them back. It's funny frustrating them to be honest.
The quicker a poster like that spews personal insults at everyone around them, the quicker they get off the board and have to come up with a new name. Better the individual insult me (or Lothar in his case) than for them to go off on someone who is lurking and the one time they post something they get insulted.
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Post by toadjunior on Feb 19, 2004 17:32:09 GMT -5
I have no problem with that, but it really fills the board full of crap. Then those of us that are part time lurkers, have to wade through it all. I guess that is my biggest problem with it. To me there should be a no nonsense approach to this. If a poster manages to insult people in their first 3 posts, they should be banned. That way, we don't have to read all the crap that it takes for them to get banned.
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Post by TroyF on Feb 19, 2004 18:09:00 GMT -5
I have no problem with that, but it really fills the board full of crap. Then those of us that are part time lurkers, have to wade through it all. I guess that is my biggest problem with it. To me there should be a no nonsense approach to this. If a poster manages to insult people in their first 3 posts, they should be banned. That way, we don't have to read all the crap that it takes for them to get banned. Would agree. I try to keep it to one thread rather than trying it in multiple threads. (I think Lothar did this as well) The problem is the nonsense gets inflicted into every thread started before anything can be done about it. I don't get the thrill of trolling or treating people rudely myself. I, for one, don't care if a member of the board hates my guts. You can get some really good debates and discussions started out of that. When the hate turns to insults (and some very lame insults at that), any hope for something positive is quickly lost.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Feb 19, 2004 18:57:08 GMT -5
Emphasis on "very lame" insults. It's not so bad if the insults are clever.
And I definitely try to keep it contained to one or two threads. It makes it easier to delete it all in the end if rock decides he doesn't want to see it.
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Post by rock on Feb 19, 2004 19:10:04 GMT -5
thanks - it does help. i just locked a few of them this time because they had run their course ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by NUGGETSFAN13 on Feb 20, 2004 11:44:29 GMT -5
Move this to feedback.
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Post by rock on Feb 20, 2004 13:44:27 GMT -5
it will be moved after everyone has given their input on the subject.
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Post by NUGGETSFAN13 on Feb 21, 2004 0:51:28 GMT -5
Hmmm...it was only you, TroyF and toadjunior going back and forth. Nobody else gives two fucks. I posted to get it out of here a full day after your last post, so you have no case. Move it now.
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Post by NUGGETSFAN13 on Feb 21, 2004 0:58:57 GMT -5
Warn me all you want. I'm not gonna do anything to get me to 5, and even if you play head games, I have about 15 screennames in tow. LOL! You fall for anything. I'll be here for a while.
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