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Post by rock on Mar 28, 2003 0:41:43 GMT -5
but you haven't banned him long term before. Actions speak louder than words. Plus, even without the fights, the board was much more interesting with him on. That alone is worth another shot. when was that? i dont remember when he was here and there wasnt fighting. |
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Post by GhostOfCJackson on Mar 28, 2003 0:43:48 GMT -5
Bulls**t. Everyone knows that he was originally banned because he called you on that not watching games thing. Which I don't really care about but obviously you took it a little too personally.
Well, mods, you need not fret. He won't call rock on that anymore and he's run out of LDS jokes for egroves. Breathe easy, put aside your personal biases, and unban him
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Post by rock on Mar 28, 2003 0:59:14 GMT -5
Bulls**t. Everyone knows that he was originally banned because he called you on that not watching games thing. Which I don't really care about but obviously you took it a little too personally. Well, mods, you need not fret. He won't call rock on that anymore and he's run out of LDS jokes for egroves. Breathe easy, put aside your personal biases, and unban him are you kidding me? he was banned at least 5 times before that! your unban-d2r reasons arent really helping. its like you are saying "ah just forget what hes done...who cares? he wont do it again...probably" i mean, if what he does should have no consequence, then whats the point? when he does it again, this will start all over. we are trying to avoid that. |
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Post by GhostOfCJackson on Mar 28, 2003 1:05:29 GMT -5
Yeah, but none of them were close to permanent.
No probably about it. Its a certainty.
But you banned him for a couple of weeks. Thats consequence enough.
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Post by rock on Mar 28, 2003 1:26:20 GMT -5
Yeah, but none of them were close to permanent. i should have been thanked. instead i was punished. understand when i hesitate to believe that since the last 10 times it was also deemed a certainty beforehand...only to be the opposite a week later. i didnt. groves did. i dont handle it anymore although i support what he does. |
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Post by egroves on Mar 28, 2003 2:18:54 GMT -5
Here are the reasons why D2R will not be unbanned in the near-future:
1.) Want to make it perfectly clear that the mods are through playing the silly little see-what-we-can-away-with games. This whole moderator/banning/deleting post/etc is not a game, it is a pain. The last thing I need is to waste my time dealing with his juvenile behavior.
2.) Frankly, after he was gone, we decided we like the board better without him. Discussions are more Nuggets related, less fighting, etc. The board more fully matches what its original intention was. Why go back?
3.) He has shown no indication of changing. If he did, we would not be seeing his invitations to troll on ESPN, or his weak attempts to slander me on the DPO board. If he changed, he wouldn't be doing this. Seems the same ol' D2R to me, and he has suckered me already with the "I will change routine". I am not listening this time.
4.) Since he has left, the board really doesn't need to be moderated. I don't want to waste my time sorting through posts trying to figure out what is acceptable and what isn't. Is it a coincidence that once he left, all of the trouble stopped?
5.) A lot of old members are starting to post again, and based on the ones that Rock and I have spoken with, they specifically say that they came back because he was gone.
There are other reasons, but those are the main ones. I will revisit the bans around the lottery and see if we should change at that point, until then, it is a non-issue. He should have listened to the several warnings.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Mar 29, 2003 21:53:40 GMT -5
I used to be an administrator on a board with about 4000 members, and from my own experience, I can tell you that unbanning someone rarely works out.
We had one guy we banned maybe 15 times, and every time we gave him another chance. When I finally left (got married, and no longer had time) he was still around trolling and making trouble. Finally, somebody banned him permanently, and going back there, I'm glad they did -- the whole place cleaned up a little.
I say, leave him banned unless he absolutely convinces you to give him one more chance -- and if you do that, make sure it's the *last* chance.
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Post by D2R on Mar 31, 2003 12:22:58 GMT -5
Bring him back, you know you wannu. 6 votes to keep me away? I demand the treatcherous swine show themselves. Line them up against the wall and fire at will. Then again, the stormin' mormon probably voted 6 times.
Also, what is EPRI? And you're telling me to get a job, groves? You live on this board. You think you're all big for not watching TV...not so impressive when you spend 20 hours of the day glued to a keyboard.
Keep it up.
-Monogomous Stranger
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Post by egroves on Mar 31, 2003 13:16:58 GMT -5
How sly, you go to the Westminister Library to start posting now.... we can fix that.
EPRI was the company that one of the trolls you invited from the Warriors Board worked at.
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Post by D2R on Mar 31, 2003 16:28:12 GMT -5
No, I don't go to the Westminster Library to post, I'm at the Westminster Library and just happened to sit down at a computer today. Do whatever it takes, nancy.
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Post by RMF on Mar 31, 2003 22:06:15 GMT -5
Having shared many profanity filled arguments with D2R all I know is the board is better with more of D2R and less of Egroves. How many moderators are there? 10? Its ridiculous. The only reason I'm here is because we got ran off the ESPN board like b*****es. Rock's personality over here is about as boring as f**k. Much more entertaining on other boards. The saddest thing is we are hiding over here from other fans waiting for the grand return to respectibility. Most fans over here want to get in the playoffs as quickly as possible with zero eye at a possible championship. Its sad really.
Groves is perpetually cranky and preachy. No doubt the result of being a Mormon bigamist. The board was much better when conflict was committed and permitted. Eliminating swearing was a major bummer.
This board will die without allowing the natural rivalries and conflicts to grow. That excuse about outside censors is totally bogus. They are getting enough hits they aren't going to shut this thing down. D2R is an entertaining side show. Most of his basketball analysis is way off. Most of his criticisms of the moderators is right on.
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Post by RMF on Mar 31, 2003 22:09:02 GMT -5
I imagine we haven't seen the last of D2R ISP's come and go.
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Post by rock on Mar 31, 2003 22:21:46 GMT -5
Having shared many profanity filled arguments with D2R all I know is the board is better with more of D2R and less of Egroves. How many moderators are there? 10? Its ridiculous. mods are here just to make sure the board is run smoothly. thats all. if you like boards that are filled with trolls, espn is still alive and kickin'. and im sorry im not entertaining enough. next time i post ill be sure to end it with a song and dance.  if you thats why we are here and you think this is 'hiding' you dont have to 'hide' with us. espn, like i said, is still there for posting. no one is forcing you here! if you havent noticed swearing was not eliminated...and its not something i ever wanted. its PROBOARDS rule. conflict (aka mature debating) is allowed. attacking and fighting is not. pathetic excuse. i said, go ahead and swear (its against proboards TOS but i think in moderation its ok). everyone still does. dont make it excessive though. honestly i dont know why you are here if you feel this way about us and the board. everything you want exists at espn but will never be tolerated here. the board is doing fine now and isnt going to be changed for any one person...because the board isnt for any one person. its for all nugget fans. |
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Post by nugzin2040 on Apr 9, 2003 16:03:25 GMT -5
Well, the only reason I left, was because of D2R's somewhat annoying personality characteristics, so, I don't think that him being abscent from the board is a big loss. I will admit on the rare occasion that he actually talked basketball, other Nuggets fans had the potential to get into a real conversation with him, but in my opinion, he seemed more interested in trying to get a rise out of a bunch of the people here, that actual discussion almost never took place. I do agree that there are probably too many moderators. Ideally, a board should be somewhat self moderating, but many of the people that are mods (some of which haven't posted like um, forever) are mods simply because D2R caused that much chaos, to make it necessary. On the other hand, he apparently likes AFI, so, he can't be ALL bad  I don't understand what egroves being Mormon has to do with anything, but, whatever. |
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Post by egroves on Apr 9, 2003 18:04:57 GMT -5
I don't understand what egroves being Mormon has to do with anything, but, whatever. Apparently it affects my ability to act in the capacity of a moderator. I haven't fully figured that one out yet, either. Anyways, thanks for the input. |
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Post by abm2121 on May 7, 2003 15:42:30 GMT -5
BAN THE b*****es-D2R and ROCK
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Post by rock on May 7, 2003 16:00:16 GMT -5
BAN THE b***hES-D2R and ROCK welcome back. |
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Post by SkitaThaHeata on May 8, 2003 0:42:26 GMT -5
Put him back on. This is a damn message board, not a matter of life or death. Rock and Groves need to grow up. Maybe if you didn't act so stringent all the time some of us would loosen up. D2R is a hardcore nuggets fan and deserves to be on here. Yeah, he gets carried away and if he does it this time he should be gone for good. At least he's not incompetent like half the goons on this message board. Put him back on and if he messes up, trash him.
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Post by egroves on May 8, 2003 8:28:10 GMT -5
It will happen within a week or so. We are sticking to the original plan to wait until the week before the lottery. He will be unbanned, and if the same things start up again, we will just make it permanent.
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Post by SkitaThaHeata on May 8, 2003 12:31:11 GMT -5
Fair enough, but don't get too strict. There are other assholes on this site that aren't taken care of. Deal with him with the same standard.
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