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Post by famicommander on Oct 28, 2024 19:51:53 GMT -5
Who the hell mentioned KCP? I've been on board with letting him walk since day one. Braun has to shoot when he's standing at the 3 point line with nobody within 10 feet of him in any direction. That's literally all I'm saying. If you can't agree with that there's something seriously wrong with you. And I'm saying if you think that is a reason the Nuggets are losing games, you're wrong. Literally nobody said that. Ever. You can't handle it when anyone says anything remotely critical of whomever your favorite player of the moment was. Nobody is saying, "Braun is hesitant to shoot wide open threes therefore he sucks and it's his fault we're losing." He's a career 37% shooter from 3 on a squad that is badly, badly deficient in shooters. If he can't knock down threes when he's that wide open it's going to be a problem for us in the long term. |
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Post by game on Oct 28, 2024 19:52:41 GMT -5
Is Calvin Booth still employed?
How.
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Post by Ring on Oct 28, 2024 19:53:05 GMT -5
And I'm saying if you think that is a reason the Nuggets are losing games, you're wrong. The starters have won their minutes in both games this year. Including against OKC who is going to win 60 games. Bench is obviously a way bigger issue but you can't possibly think CB can turn down open shots long term? Teams will start adjusting. Of course not long term but people are making it sound like he's turned down 5 shots a game. He's turning down like 1 3 per game. It's not a big deal. Again, the starters net rating in 2 losses was better than the starters in either of the last 2 years. |
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Post by inyourmind on Oct 28, 2024 19:53:13 GMT -5
A player can be really good individually while hurting the rest of the offense. Spacing is crucial. CB needs to take open shots. He needs to knock down 3's. If he doesn't it's just gunna make every other starters job harder and it'll slow down the offense. The more he does it the worse it'll get as the season goes on. it's always a special moment when IYM and I agree on a take. Haha hopefully can lead to a better 2nd half. |
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Post by game on Oct 28, 2024 19:53:40 GMT -5
Who the hell mentioned KCP? I've been on board with letting him walk since day one. Braun has to shoot when he's standing at the 3 point line with nobody within 10 feet of him in any direction. That's literally all I'm saying. If you can't agree with that there's something seriously wrong with you. And I'm saying if you think that is a reason the Nuggets are losing games, you're wrong. The starters have won their minutes in both games this year. Including against OKC who is going to win 60 games. Having a 2 guard around Jokic (in addition to Gordon) who can't shoot is absolutely a reason they're losing games. There are lots of good players who would not help the starting unit if they destroyed spacing. |
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Post by Ring on Oct 28, 2024 19:53:49 GMT -5
Is Calvin Booth still employed? How. The Denver Nuggets are not a serious franchise. The funny thing is nobody would really care about any of this if Jokic wasn't a 3X MVP. Expectations are higher and standards are higher now. |
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Post by Ring on Oct 28, 2024 19:54:40 GMT -5
And I'm saying if you think that is a reason the Nuggets are losing games, you're wrong. The starters have won their minutes in both games this year. Including against OKC who is going to win 60 games. Having a 2 guard around Jokic (in addition to Gordon) who can't shoot is absolutely a reason they're losing games. There are lots of good players who would not help the starting unit if they destroyed spacing. Again, they're +14 on the year. Idk what to tell you guys. If you want the starters to have a net rating of +25 that's unrealistic IMO. Definitely may cost them some games in the future but hasn't so far IMO. We do recognize the bench is historically bad right? |
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Post by inyourmind on Oct 28, 2024 19:56:46 GMT -5
Bench is obviously a way bigger issue but you can't possibly think CB can turn down open shots long term? Teams will start adjusting. Of course not long term but people are making it sound like he's turned down 5 shots a game. He's turning down like 1 3 per game. It's not a big deal. Again, the starters net rating in 2 losses was better than the starters in either of the last 2 years. We'll see how the numbers shake out but IMO lack of spacing will be a killer this year and CB looks like he'll contribute to that. Doesn't look like he's improved in that area but it's still early so we'll see. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 28, 2024 19:56:49 GMT -5
Having a 2 guard around Jokic (in addition to Gordon) who can't shoot is absolutely a reason they're losing games. There are lots of good players who would not help the starting unit if they destroyed spacing. Again, they're +14 on the year. Idk what to tell you guys. If you want the starters to have a net rating of +25 that's unrealistic IMO. Definitely may cost them some games in the future but hasn't so far IMO. We do recognize the bench is historically bad right? People are mentioning Braun's hesitancy to shoot because it's one of the few problems that is easily solvable. Problem: Braun isn't shooting wide open 3s Solution: Braun shoots wide open 3s Easy. Problem: Dario Saric sucks and we don't have a legitimate replacement Solution:  ? See how that works? It's not implying that the two problems are equivalent in size. |
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Post by Ring on Oct 28, 2024 19:59:36 GMT -5
Honestly this is where a lack of Jokic being a vocal leader hurts. Like this team is atrociously bad right now. The energy is awful. Like these guys have absolutely no pride. Him or Murray have to say something. It's unacceptable.
Also Malone getting fired over Calvin is going to make me sick to my stomach. Better not happen.
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Post by game on Oct 28, 2024 20:00:53 GMT -5
Having a 2 guard around Jokic (in addition to Gordon) who can't shoot is absolutely a reason they're losing games. There are lots of good players who would not help the starting unit if they destroyed spacing. Again, they're +14 on the year. Idk what to tell you guys. If you want the starters to have a net rating of +25 that's unrealistic IMO. Definitely may cost them some games in the future but hasn't so far IMO. We do recognize the bench is historically bad right? "A reason". Not the only reason. This starting unit should be trucking the Clippers and Raptors. Maybe +14 is half of what it should be? This team will always be a dominate starters minutes /try to play even or lose the bench units narrowly. The bench has massive issues (thanks Calvin, nice work this summer, bud) but the starters plus a guy who has been in this rotation for two full years now should be able to wreck the shitty Clippers at home or the Raptors anywhere. And win or play even with OKC. Having Jokic and f***ing up this badly around him is literally like having the answers to 75% of the test and proceeding to get exactly a 75%. DNVR clearly is angling that this is a Malone problem. He has his issues. But this roster of trash shooters and minimal athleticism is all Calvin. f**k him for doing this to Nuggets fans. Much less Jokic. Fire him immediately. |
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Post by somborshuffle on Oct 28, 2024 20:01:39 GMT -5
This is painful to watch.
No effort.
Team looks demoralised.
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Post by Ring on Oct 28, 2024 20:01:41 GMT -5
Again, they're +14 on the year. Idk what to tell you guys. If you want the starters to have a net rating of +25 that's unrealistic IMO. Definitely may cost them some games in the future but hasn't so far IMO. We do recognize the bench is historically bad right? "A reason". Not the only reason. This starting unit should be trucking the Clippers and Raptors. Maybe +14 is half of what it should be? This team will always be a dominate starters minutes /try to play even or lose the bench units narrowly. The bench has massive issues (thanks Calvin, nice work this summer, bud) but the starters plus a guy who has been in this rotation for two full years now should be able to wreck the shitty Clippers at home or the Raptors anywhere. And win or play even with OKC. Having Jokic and f***ing up this badly around him is literally like having the answers to 75% of the test and proceeding to get exactly a 75%. DNVR clearly is angling that this is a Malone problem. He has his issues. But this roster of trash shooters and minimal athleticism is all Calvin. f**k him for doing this to Nuggets fans. Much less Jokic. Fire him immediately. Calvin 100% should be fired. No arguments from me there. Although the Kroenke's will never pay for a GM with self respect. |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 28, 2024 20:02:14 GMT -5
CB3! There we go!
EDIT:
never mind, it was a 2
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Post by Ring on Oct 28, 2024 20:03:39 GMT -5
MPJ can't guard Grady Dick. This is unbelievable lmao
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Post by somborshuffle on Oct 28, 2024 20:04:32 GMT -5
Honestly this is where a lack of Jokic being a vocal leader hurts. Like this team is atrociously bad right now. The energy is awful. Like these guys have absolutely no pride. Him or Murray have to say something. It's unacceptable. Also Malone getting fired over Calvin is going to make me sick to my stomach. Better not happen. This team minus Jokic would get crushed by the Wizards. Not just lose... crushed. Being vocal isn't going to make heartless MPJ grow a spine or make other guys hit 3s. We are witnessing the impact of managerial malpractice by Booth. He should be fired by the end of the game. |
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Post by aussie on Oct 28, 2024 20:06:17 GMT -5
What’s our return in a Jokic trade? He doesn’t deserve this sh*t
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Post by game on Oct 28, 2024 20:06:42 GMT -5
Again, they're +14 on the year. Idk what to tell you guys. If you want the starters to have a net rating of +25 that's unrealistic IMO. Definitely may cost them some games in the future but hasn't so far IMO. We do recognize the bench is historically bad right? People are mentioning Braun's hesitancy to shoot because it's one of the few problems that is easily solvable. Problem: Braun isn't shooting wide open 3s Solution: Braun shoots wide open 3s Yes he needs to shoot, but he also sucks at 3s? So while we'll all feel warm inside if he shoots it's really the scoring points that matters. |
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Post by Ring on Oct 28, 2024 20:07:12 GMT -5
Jamal Murray is getting paid $52 million a year lmao
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Post by Ring on Oct 28, 2024 20:07:46 GMT -5
Can we yell at Jamal for passing up a wide open corner 3 there? And then air balling a layup?
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