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Post by pie on Oct 6, 2024 10:09:23 GMT -5
hoopswire.com/2024-nba-free-agents/Small Forwards: Thanasis Antetokounmpo, Reggie Bullock, Doug McDermott, Oshae Brissett Shooting Guards: Victor Oladipo, Terquavion Smith, James Bouknight Point Guards: Markelle Fultz, Dennis Smith Jr. Any 2 of the above would be an upgrade over Pickett and Tyson
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Post by pie on Oct 6, 2024 10:09:44 GMT -5
This deserves its own thread. Please don't lock it, mods
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Post by JB on Oct 6, 2024 12:11:19 GMT -5
I'll take Fultz and bring Holiday back. you could do worse with third string vets.
but it's not happening. the best we can hope for is Josh telling Calvin to cut one of them to sign a buyout guy.
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Post by famicommander on Oct 6, 2024 12:30:53 GMT -5
They are not cutting two guys and eating double dead money for two seasons.
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Post by GBG on Oct 6, 2024 12:35:30 GMT -5
Adam Mares said on postgame livestream minutes ago that Zeke indeed is tradeable. Only thing is don’t expect much of a return. He’s plugged in. Predicted Murray signing an extension in the timeframe that he did, when everyone else was sweating about what was going on.
Also said Zeke and Pickett were working out together, away from the team this summer. Thinks they aren’t even expecting to be on this team very long.
Maybe Calvin has one or two more moves before the season starts?
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Post by rock on Oct 7, 2024 12:01:50 GMT -5
They are not cutting two guys and eating double dead money for two seasons. cant they stretch the payments out or something? ive heard there is some sort of rule that allows this. it shouldnt cost us too much I would think |
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Post by rock on Oct 7, 2024 12:02:31 GMT -5
Adam Mares said on postgame livestream minutes ago that Zeke indeed is tradeable. Only thing is don’t expect much of a return. He’s plugged in. Predicted Murray signing an extension in the timeframe that he did, when everyone else was sweating about what was going on. Also said Zeke and Pickett were working out together, away from the team this summer. Thinks they aren’t even expecting to be on this team very long. Maybe Calvin has one or two more moves before the season starts? something Ive learned over the year is that anyone is tradeable. awful contracts still get moved all the time. |
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Oct 7, 2024 12:07:01 GMT -5
Pickett and Tyson are making minuscule amounts. They're the kind of contract that costs essentially nothing to get off of -- you can just pay a crappy team to take them, and then the crappy team will waive them if they don't see them as an NBA player. If the team really wanted a roster spot to make some other deal, they'd do it. Which means management doesn't think they'd rather have Fultz or Holiday than Pickett or Tyson.
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Post by rock on Oct 7, 2024 12:12:50 GMT -5
Pickett and Tyson are making minuscule amounts. They're the kind of contract that costs essentially nothing to get off of -- you can just pay a crappy team to take them, and then the crappy team will waive them if they don't see them as an NBA player. If the team really wanted a roster spot to make some other deal, they'd do it. Which means management doesn't think they'd rather have Fultz or Holiday than Pickett or Tyson. seriously? holiday and fultz are 100 times better |
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Post by scooter on Oct 7, 2024 14:01:43 GMT -5
Pickett and Tyson are making minuscule amounts. They're the kind of contract that costs essentially nothing to get off of -- you can just pay a crappy team to take them, and then the crappy team will waive them if they don't see them as an NBA player. If the team really wanted a roster spot to make some other deal, they'd do it. Which means management doesn't think they'd rather have Fultz or Holiday than Pickett or Tyson. seriously? holiday and fultz are 100 times better It seems clear that the view around the NBA is that Holiday is washed up and that Fultz is basically the new version of Shaq Harrison, a fringe NBA PG who can eat a few minutes playing some defense and handling the ball some but he’s such a lousy shooter that you’re basically playing 4 against 5 on offense. |
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Post by JB on Oct 7, 2024 14:19:37 GMT -5
Holiday shot 60% from 3 during the Wolves series and scored double digits each time Malone played him 19 minutes or more.
and current day Fultz is probably Pickett's ceiling so it's probably a good idea to pick the finished product if they're making the same money.
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Post by scooter on Oct 7, 2024 15:17:03 GMT -5
Holiday shot 60% from 3 during the Wolves series and scored double digits each time Malone played him 19 minutes or more. and current day Fultz is probably Pickett's ceiling so it's probably a good idea to pick the finished product if they're making the same money. Sure, if you could just snap your fingers and switch these guys out at zero cost (certainly Pickett) you would, but it doesn’t work that way. There is cost to making end of the roster changes at this point — I don’t know exactly how much cost so I don’t know exactly how the cost/benefit calculation appears. There will be some change — we just don’t know when and exactly what it’ll look like. |
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Post by aussie on Oct 7, 2024 19:49:29 GMT -5
PJ Tucker for Zeke & Pickett + 2nd round pick?
PJ is washed and not with the Clippers at present. He is expiring (tick) but we could potentially get 5-8min out of him. Free up a roster spot for the buyout market too.
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Post by famicommander on Oct 7, 2024 19:58:21 GMT -5
Tucker would be in pretty much the same role we're seeing for Vlatko right now, I think. If he's not happy with a fringe rotation role in LA I don't think he'd accept the same here. Because he wouldn't be getting minutes over Saric, Gordon, Porter, or Watson.
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Post by AbdulJabber on Oct 7, 2024 20:36:10 GMT -5
I'll take it.
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Post by aussie on Oct 7, 2024 20:53:04 GMT -5
Tucker would be in pretty much the same role we're seeing for Vlatko right now, I think. If he's not happy with a fringe rotation role in LA I don't think he'd accept the same here. Because he wouldn't be getting minutes over Saric, Gordon, Porter, or Watson. Do you think Tucker would have any say in where he goes? Unless he wants to get waived and give up guaranteed $$$ he'll never earn again, I'd say he would be ok with it. Saves us $10m + the next couple of seasons and creates a roster spot |
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Post by famicommander on Oct 7, 2024 21:00:42 GMT -5
Tucker would be in pretty much the same role we're seeing for Vlatko right now, I think. If he's not happy with a fringe rotation role in LA I don't think he'd accept the same here. Because he wouldn't be getting minutes over Saric, Gordon, Porter, or Watson. Do you think Tucker would have any say in where he goes? Unless he wants to get waived and give up guaranteed $$$ he'll never earn again, I'd say he would be ok with it. Saves us $10m + the next couple of seasons and creates a roster spot I don't want any problem guys on our roster. As critical as I've been of Zeke and Tyson and Pickett on the court, I don't think any of them are close to a problem in the locker room. If we're trading or waiving any of them I want it to be for someone we know wants to be here and won't rock the boat. |
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Post by JB on Oct 8, 2024 10:28:16 GMT -5
Err, PJ Tucker is Michael Malone's dream player. it's like a mad scientist merged Facu and Torrey Craig in a lab. he would get minutes no matter how washed he is.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Oct 8, 2024 10:50:00 GMT -5
Err, PJ Tucker is Michael Malone's dream player. it's like a mad scientist merged Facu and Torrey Craig in a lab. he would get minutes no matter how washed he is. I think that's part of why Booth hasn't brought back guys like Holiday, Jeff Green's, ect. He's trying to force Malone's hand on playing Strawther and Watson. Now there's the definite downside that behind those guys our 11-15 is not good, but I think (just my opinion) this is a major trust issue between Booth and Malone, that Booth doesn't believe that Malone will give those younger guys the minutes they need to develop if he brings in too many vets. |
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