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Post by duh88 on Jul 3, 2024 19:15:21 GMT -5
The more i think about it, i am convinced that CB will improve a lot with starters and our starters wont miss a beat, they will be just as dominant. On the other hand, the more i think about it, our bench/2nd unit/any stagger playoff rotation is going to be an utter s**t show with or without RB/Saric. PWat has another summer under his belt with development, as well as Strawther. We also finally have a big man with mobility in Holmes. The bench is looking much much better.
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 3, 2024 19:16:59 GMT -5
I absolutley see a scenario where Saric, Westbrook, and PWat give meaningful Contributions in the playoffs. Now Vlatko, Strawther, and Holmes are more up in the air. But if we can have a solid 8 in the playoffs that'd be great. We dont have Saric or Westbrook we have Nnaji and Pickett lmao He said with or without. I was commenting on with. Which you seem to disagree with
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Post by jacksalmon on Jul 3, 2024 19:44:17 GMT -5
That guy has to be a troll right?? A troll or just kind of an idiot to argue that Porter can’t shoot. I’ve never been the biggest Porter fan, but he’s a 6’11” guy who is a career 50/41/81 shooter, which puts him in the conversation of best tall shooters in NBA history. We all know he hasn’t been as good in the playoffs, but even against playoff defenses, his career numbers are 46/38/78, which is still extremely good as playoff shooting efficiency usually declines (it did even for Nowitzki, the greatest big man shooter in history). It would be fantastic if Porter was a playoff riser and who knows, we might still see that happen one year. And he certainly has his limitations. Despite those limitations, he is on the list (with current players Jokic and Towns and Love, all of whom are behind Nowitzki) of best big man shooters in NBA history so far. But sure, Porter can’t shoot because he doesn’t make — I don’t know — 75% of his face up shots? Your man Porter scored 8 points in game 6 of the Wolves series and in the all-important game 7 in Denver he was 3 for 12 on field goals, and 1 for 6 on 3 pointers. If you call that consistent shooting, then we simply disagree. I call it inconsistent shooting and I don't give a damn what his career stats are-------when it comes to the playoffs, he is a choke artist.
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Post by eathb on Jul 3, 2024 21:01:17 GMT -5
I'm actually going to be disappointed if we are not one of the teams after Paul Reed if he gets waived
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Post by passtheballquick on Jul 3, 2024 21:16:52 GMT -5
I am against trading Jamal because there is no better realistic option to upgrade. But on the same note i am SO against that extension it's not even funny. At this point even MPJ, idk is there a team with 2 players that we can brake that contract into and not lose a beat. Lauri Markannen is rumored to Spurs and the price is way higher than just MPJ. I doubt that MPJ value alone can give us anything back of a decent value. Maybe Bogdanovic/Hunter combination from the Hawks, but i also doubt they accept that without picks added. In reality our highest paid players value around the league is nowhere near the same as we think it is. Their value is in playing with Jokic and feasting on his gravity. If we can get Bogdanovic/Hunter for mpj+ the only pick we have we should have done it in the first trade day
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Post by JB on Jul 3, 2024 22:01:20 GMT -5
it's hilarious that Tim signed Dozier a day after Monte left him.
give him Zeke back.
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Post by GBG on Jul 4, 2024 0:24:36 GMT -5
I am against trading Jamal because there is no better realistic option to upgrade. But on the same note i am SO against that extension it's not even funny. At this point even MPJ, idk is there a team with 2 players that we can brake that contract into and not lose a beat. Lauri Markannen is rumored to Spurs and the price is way higher than just MPJ. I doubt that MPJ value alone can give us anything back of a decent value. Maybe Bogdanovic/Hunter combination from the Hawks, but i also doubt they accept that without picks added. In reality our highest paid players value around the league is nowhere near the same as we think it is. Their value is in playing with Jokic and feasting on his gravity. If we can get Bogdanovic/Hunter for mpj+ the only pick we have we should have done it in the first trade day You do understand that trades associated with free agency can’t happen until noon July 6, I presume. Official signing can’t occur until then either. Booth knows what he’s doing, he has a specific idea of who he wants for the bench and will get off his yacht in the Mediterranean to do it.
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Post by scooter on Jul 4, 2024 0:25:42 GMT -5
A troll or just kind of an idiot to argue that Porter can’t shoot. I’ve never been the biggest Porter fan, but he’s a 6’11” guy who is a career 50/41/81 shooter, which puts him in the conversation of best tall shooters in NBA history. We all know he hasn’t been as good in the playoffs, but even against playoff defenses, his career numbers are 46/38/78, which is still extremely good as playoff shooting efficiency usually declines (it did even for Nowitzki, the greatest big man shooter in history). It would be fantastic if Porter was a playoff riser and who knows, we might still see that happen one year. And he certainly has his limitations. Despite those limitations, he is on the list (with current players Jokic and Towns and Love, all of whom are behind Nowitzki) of best big man shooters in NBA history so far. But sure, Porter can’t shoot because he doesn’t make — I don’t know — 75% of his face up shots? Your man Porter scored 8 points in game 6 of the Wolves series and in the all-important game 7 in Denver he was 3 for 12 on field goals, and 1 for 6 on 3 pointers. If you call that consistent shooting, then we simply disagree. I call it inconsistent shooting and I don't give a damn what his career stats are-------when it comes to the playoffs, he is a choke artist. This is prisoner of the moment thinking. You don’t evaluate a guy based on a couple of games. Porter has his limitations as a player, but even with those limitations he is one of the best big man shooters there has ever been and that spaces the court. Shots will go in or not, but when the defense needs to guard a guy 25 feet from the basket, it opens up the court for his teammates. Oh and it’s normal for shooting percentages to decline in the playoffs. In the Finals, Doncic shot 24% on threes and Irving shot 28%. Smart people are not writing off the Mavs for next season arguing that those guys suck based on a 5 game sample size.
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Post by duh88 on Jul 4, 2024 2:36:24 GMT -5
Regarding all of the stuff about Calvin being in the mediterrean and not caring, etc, garbage, etc....
Tommy Balcetis is our asst GM. Just take my word for it - he has a LOT of authority. I'm pretty confident he's holding down the fort stateside just fine.
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Post by aussie on Jul 4, 2024 3:24:33 GMT -5
Regarding all of the stuff about Calvin being in the mediterrean and not caring, etc, garbage, etc.... Tommy Balcetis is our asst GM. Just take my word for it - he has a LOT of authority. I'm pretty confident he's holding down the fort stateside just fine. Dude how do you know that? We haven’t signed anyone and only lost depth. Unless that changes, this is a horrendous and unforgivable offseason and if I was Joker, I’d demand a trade. As multiple people have said, you don’t waste the prime years of a 3 x MVP and greatest Nugget of all time. It’s pure filth
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Post by Coach Sticky on Jul 4, 2024 3:59:50 GMT -5
There’s rumors on The Athletic that the nuggets wanted to trade for Paul George. Deal was MPJ, Zeke and “significant amount” of draft picks.
Booth said no because of the picks.
I think that’s okay and understandable, depending on what and how many picks. If it’s MPJ, Zeke and let’s say 2 FRP, I would have done it.
But PG isn’t getting younger nor healthier and MPJ is, mostly, still a valid player
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Post by rock on Jul 4, 2024 4:07:37 GMT -5
There’s rumors on The Athletic that the nuggets wanted to trade for Paul George. Deal was MPJ, Zeke and “significant amount” of draft picks. Booth said no because of the picks. I think that’s okay and understandable, depending on what and how many picks. If it’s MPJ, Zeke and let’s say 2 FRP, I would have done it. But PG isn’t getting younger nor healthier and MPJ is, mostly, still a valid player We didn’t even have picks to offer. Otherwise that deal is intriguing
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 4, 2024 4:34:37 GMT -5
Regarding all of the stuff about Calvin being in the mediterrean and not caring, etc, garbage, etc.... Tommy Balcetis is our asst GM. Just take my word for it - he has a LOT of authority. I'm pretty confident he's holding down the fort stateside just fine. They havent done anything so…
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Post by wizardofcozz on Jul 4, 2024 4:36:40 GMT -5
There’s rumors on The Athletic that the nuggets wanted to trade for Paul George. Deal was MPJ, Zeke and “significant amount” of draft picks. Booth said no because of the picks. I think that’s okay and understandable, depending on what and how many picks. If it’s MPJ, Zeke and let’s say 2 FRP, I would have done it. But PG isn’t getting younger nor healthier and MPJ is, mostly, still a valid player Not sure how true that could be. We never had significant draft picks to trade. Unless it's the 6 2nd rounders we shipped out for Holmes and getting rid of RJ, but not sure those 2nd rounders shift the needle much for Clippers trading PG. We don't have 2 first round picks to trade, again unless it was a draft day trade where we gave up that pick and our 2031 which are only 1st rounders we had. Having said that, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. We wouldn't of got Holmes but we still could of brought in Saric and Westbrook and I like that team!
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 4, 2024 6:27:47 GMT -5
We are not getting Westbrook and Saric guys
DNVR is full of s**t and Calvin is terrible at his job
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Post by Coach Sticky on Jul 4, 2024 8:08:44 GMT -5
I‘d rate have Connelly back or Masai, probably even Warkentien
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Post by JB on Jul 4, 2024 9:28:06 GMT -5
you're going to have to travel to Haiti and consult a voodoo doctor if you want Wark back.
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Post by jimijam28 on Jul 4, 2024 9:37:10 GMT -5
bring back Kiki Vandeweghe
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jul 4, 2024 9:37:48 GMT -5
I seriously cant believe the guy we trust to navigere us through Jokic prime thinks PICKETT is NBA quality. He look complete ass
Is he like an insanely good defender. He cant just be a good decision maker
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Post by JB on Jul 4, 2024 9:48:55 GMT -5
I'm not judging a GM on a bad pick, even less so a bad second round pick. if that were the case, Timmy should've been banned from holding office after the 2017 nba draft nightmare.
it's the *appearance* of tipping the scale in order to force Malone's hand in playing Pickett, Hunter and Zeke. we were the defending champs. that's functionally insane.
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