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Post by rock on Jun 30, 2024 23:05:16 GMT -5
For the min I bet? It’s been less than a day and this offseason literally cannot go worse. So glad we got our title. This is my mantra to stay calm and get through the next few seasons. |
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Post by rock on Jun 30, 2024 23:06:37 GMT -5
I can see Mavs making a cap space to sign Klay 100% How? Bball reference has their 2024-25 salaries around 173m. Wouldn’t they need to dump like 40-50 million to make space? |
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Post by AbdulJabber on Jun 30, 2024 23:09:35 GMT -5
Brick wouldn't be a bad piece off the bench. Better than Jackson and only 4 mil. Not sure what we need to do to get him, but I like the thinking.
Depending on the trade, we could have 7 guys under 20 million, with brick, cb, watson, holmes as rotation players. Gives us lots of flexibility.
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Jun 30, 2024 23:12:15 GMT -5
For the min I bet? It’s been less than a day and this offseason literally cannot go worse. So glad we got our title. This is my mantra to stay calm and get through the next few seasons. 3 years, 30 million The Clippers are losing Paul George and replacing him with Derrick Jones Jr. And the Mavs lost him. How is this one bad for us? |
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Post by rock on Jun 30, 2024 23:17:39 GMT -5
For the min I bet? It’s been less than a day and this offseason literally cannot go worse. So glad we got our title. This is my mantra to stay calm and get through the next few seasons. 3 years, 30 million The Clippers are losing Paul George and replacing him with Derrick Jones Jr. And the Mavs lost him. How is this one bad for us? for some reason I assumed the clips were way over the cap like us and couldnt afford any 3/30 deals. I dont blame DJJ for taking that one. its not bad in terms of net talent, im just getting sick and tired of every single team signing guys and we cannot get anyone. again, our bench is laughably bad. we cannot field a playable rotation for opening night. I would give the front office an A if they can get us a playable backup pg and either big man or wing. we need bodies. guys like naji marshall, tyus jones, tobias harris, monte morris, plumlee, DJJ and CP3 are just role players but they are 100 times better than our bench. id love to have bol bol back |
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Post by inyourmind on Jun 30, 2024 23:23:25 GMT -5
I feel like at this point the Nuggets just need established NBA players. A backup if the internal development plan backfires again. Realistically all of them will have flaws. I think finding a way to add shooting is the most important thing along with a PG but even beyond that just adding 1 or 2 NBA rotation players is needed.
If they don't and the young guys don't progress than Jokic might get another MVP .. and that's not a good thing for the Nuggets title chances.
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Post by Dante on Jun 30, 2024 23:29:34 GMT -5
If healthy i dont think there is a better option to run our 2nd unit and be 100% fine to jump in starting role than Brogdon. At this point whoever we get should be on a 1 year deal so that we can cut him at trade deadline in favor of Brogdon if things dont work out like it was with Reggie. 1+1(team option) and for the love of god stop giving player options on "gamble" contracts/vets.
It would be lovely if we can turn Zeke into any of Dunn,Micic,Westbrook and sign a backup big/forward for TPMLE and have that option to pursue Brogdon at trade deadline if our backup point guard is not working.
With Caruso and 'Stein probably going to OKC, with Mavs improving on margins, with Wolves staying as is with a spark plug of the bench i can see us at best as 4th best TEAM in the west no matter the fact that we have the best PLAYER in the west. Rough times are ahead of us.
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Post by GBG on Jun 30, 2024 23:39:19 GMT -5
It’s over, guys. Relax and accept the fact the Nuggets no longer have the best team in franchise history. Yeah, we won 57 games with KCP, and probably can win 50-52 without him. But the days of us being a top championship contender are over, and not coming back. Keep your sanity and accept. Nuggets basketball will still be fun to watch and follow, even if our ceiling in remaining Jokic era is WCF team. It’s still beautiful basketball with him, Murray, two man game. And who knows, maybe Watson really is a future AllStar?!
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Post by alchemist76 on Jun 30, 2024 23:39:28 GMT -5
The title window is pretty shut right now.
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Post by rock on Jun 30, 2024 23:40:09 GMT -5
If healthy i dont think there is a better option to run our 2nd unit and be 100% fine to jump in starting role than Brogdon. At this point whoever we get should be on a 1 year deal so that we can cut him at trade deadline in favor of Brogdon if things dont work out like it was with Reggie. 1+1(team option) and for the love of god stop giving player options on "gamble" contracts/vets. It would be lovely if we can turn Zeke into any of Dunn,Micic,Westbrook and sign a backup big/forward for TPMLE and have that option to pursue Brogdon at trade deadline if our backup point guard is not working. With Caruso and 'Stein probably going to OKC, with Mavs improving on margins, with Wolves staying as is with a spark plug of the bench i can see us at best as 4th best TEAM in the west no matter the fact that we have the best PLAYER in the west. Rough times are ahead of us. 4th best team would be a miracle at this point nearly every team in the west is either really good or much improved. even the bad teams like utah, portland and the spurs wont be easy wins at all. the only teams that seem to be worse than last year are us, the clippers and warriors. |
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Post by inyourmind on Jun 30, 2024 23:59:09 GMT -5
It’s over, guys. Relax and accept the fact the Nuggets no longer have the best team in franchise history. Yeah, we won 57 games with KCP, and probably can win 50-52 without him. But the days of us being a top championship contender are over, and not coming back. Keep your sanity and accept. Nuggets basketball will still be fun to watch and follow, even if our ceiling in remaining Jokic era is WCF team. It’s still beautiful basketball with him, Murray, two man game. And who knows, maybe Watson really is a future AllStar?! It's hard to have hope at the moment. That being said if Jokic/Murray pop off they have a chance against anybody. You don't have to dominate your way to a championship like we did. If you get championship season Jokic/Murray even with tougher opponents that's a tough out. Not unrealistic to win in 6/7 games. I don't think they beat the Celtics or maybe even the Mavs this year but it's not like their pretenders. Even without KCP/Bruce I'm not 100% convinced we lose to them with last year's Jokic/Murray. Top team? I agree. Depending on how other teams play they'll be in the conversation or close to it tho. MPJ/CB/Watson as wildcards. Were fucked and the ceiling becomes the WCF if Murray can't ever run it back tho. If Murray has a disappointment playoffs next year then that's when you truly start to panic. |
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Post by GBG on Jul 1, 2024 2:04:25 GMT -5
Harrison Wind said on podcast, while discussing Plumlee signing with Suns, that Nuggets will sign someone “significantly better than Plumlee” and probably “in the next day or so”. Seems he has heard something he’s not divulging.
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Jul 1, 2024 2:25:37 GMT -5
Interesting. Was that specifically center related, or just in general? Kinda hard to imagine being able to sign a backup center that is significantly better than Plumlee. At least one who is realistically obtainable, anyway. About the only ones still out there are Theis, Bitadze, Smith, Eubanks, Bamba, and Holmes...but I wouldn't really say any of them are "significantly" better than Plumlee. Jalen Smith would be awesome, but he's one that I definitely don't think is signing for the TPMLE. I also kind of doubt they'll use it on a center anyway, as it's probably better to try to grab one of the better wings out there if possible.
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Post by freakns on Jul 1, 2024 3:00:50 GMT -5
Im not going to complain before FA ends, but when you go out and say, we would love to have KCP(for peanuts) but Braun can easily replace him, all I can say is f**k you Booth. you successfully manage to create a team with 8 rookies or freshman while Jokic is best player in the league. maybe you are not good, but hay, at least you are cheap, so FO will love you.
edit: no seriously, f**k you Booth and f**k you Kroenkies. I hope Arsenal never again sniff Euroleague, and Chargers become most popular team in LA.
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Post by eathb on Jul 1, 2024 3:07:14 GMT -5
Idk
Denver org has a reputation of being super nice to the players, yet guys are leaving for the same amount of money offered to worse teams.
Yet Daryl Morey is apparently an a****** and lies to players, yet every year he is able to get the players he wants through free agency.
What is the right approach?
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 3:09:17 GMT -5
Idk Denver org has a reputation of being super nice to the players, yet guys are leaving for the same amount of money offered to worse teams. Yet Daryl Morey is apparently an a****** and lies to players, yet every year he is able to get the players he wants through free agency. What is the right approach? Such a great take |
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Post by AbdulJabber on Jul 1, 2024 3:16:18 GMT -5
We can live without pope. Not sure why he wanted out but maybe he wants more touches or something. I mean, you guys are acting like we're dead in the water or something. It's silly. The guy made 1.6 threes per game and got to the line 2 times per game. You guys really think that's the kind of offensive production that can't be replaced under any circumstance?? That's nucking futs.
And although he was always rock solid defensively, he wasn't exactly a turnover forcing machine. His steals per foul was ranked 37th, 2 spots ahead of Gordon Hayward. His rebounding was 2.7 per game, which was the lowest rate on the team. His winshare/48 was 9th on the team.
I hate to lose the guy to the 2nd apron monster, but lets stop acting like it's the end of the world
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Post by duh88 on Jul 1, 2024 3:24:58 GMT -5
Guys - there's a lot of overreaction tonight.
Good time to revisit the goal this off-season which is:
Every decision right now should be made with the intent to beat the TWolves.
The cold hard truth is:
You don't want to pay $22m yearly to KCP. Not now.
We don't need to shoot 3's to beat the Wolves.
We do need Braun and Watson on the floor more - and we need both to get a full regular season under their belt, as rotation players, to get ready - specifically for Edwards.
We don't need Edwards man-handling KCP (note: Braun and Watson do great against Edwards).
We don't need to give Malone the option to play KCP over Braun or Watson - not against the TWolves.
Lastly - we now take KCP's $15m, and Reggie's $5m, and hopefully, fill in the backup C and backup PG spaces. Wind is already reporting that a big is on the way (in addition to Holmes!) and rumors are we're targeting Westbrook - a pg that can drive to the hoop 10 to 15 times per game (exactly what we need).
So - calm down, pussies.
We will win the banner this season. The right moves are going to get done.
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Post by GBG on Jul 1, 2024 3:35:41 GMT -5
No amount of cheerleading changes the fact that as we sit here today we are a middle of the pack playoff team in the west. It can get better, but we are still reliant on Jokic/Murray going nuclear in postseason in over 40 mpg that we skate on very thin ice. No depth to speak of. The Wind comment was intriguing on DNVR podcast, listen starting at 55:50 mark… www.youtube.com/live/hyple2NuSM0?si=oiuFLuKRaG-sESlD |
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Post by rock on Jul 1, 2024 3:44:48 GMT -5
Guys - there's a lot of overreaction tonight. Good time to revisit the goal this off-season which is: Every decision right now should be made with the intent to beat the TWolves. The cold hard truth is: You don't want to pay $22m yearly to KCP. Not now. We don't need to shoot 3's to beat the Wolves. We do need Braun and Watson on the floor more - and we need both to get a full regular season under their belt, as rotation players, to get ready - specifically for Edwards. We don't need Edwards man-handling KCP (note: Braun and Watson do great against Edwards). We don't need to give Malone the option to play KCP over Braun or Watson - not against the TWolves. Lastly - we now take KCP's $15m, and Reggie's $5m, and hopefully, fill in the backup C and backup PG spaces. Wind is already reporting that a big is on the way (in addition to Holmes!) and rumors are we're targeting Westbrook - a pg that can drive to the hoop 10 to 15 times per game (exactly what we need). So - calm down, pussies. We will win the banner this season. The right moves are going to get done. Issue is we can’t just spend the $20 million on other players. |
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