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Post by JB on Jun 30, 2024 19:53:45 GMT -5
Chris Paul to the Spurs.
I like this move. end your career with some dignity playing the big bro role to Wemby, not shamelessly ring chasing that no one will take seriously even if you win.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Jun 30, 2024 19:54:39 GMT -5
Jonas making Zeke money
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Post by jimijam28 on Jun 30, 2024 19:54:44 GMT -5
Gary would be the starter as he can take and make 3s with confidence which is what we need in the starting lineup. Lonnie would be great at that price but if we could dump Zeke on the Clippers by trading for Russ, that would be 2 birds 1 stone. Gary will never be a starter in this league again...which if you forgot he could never stay healthy with Denver trying to play 30+ mins/game. Saying he would start is fantasyland stuff. Gary = bench player and nothing more. Further, Gary is a career 37% three point shooter yet the last 3 years next to Jokic he was only shooting 32-34% from 3. Hence saying "he can take and make 3s with confidence" is complete revisionist history and falls more into the absurd category. Not only NO on Gary returning but he would actually make the bench offense worse. Nuggets Walmart Dr will kill him again |
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 30, 2024 19:59:19 GMT -5
Gary will never be a starter in this league again...which if you forgot he could never stay healthy with Denver trying to play 30+ mins/game. Saying he would start is fantasyland stuff. Gary = bench player and nothing more. Further, Gary is a career 37% three point shooter yet the last 3 years next to Jokic he was only shooting 32-34% from 3. Hence saying "he can take and make 3s with confidence" is complete revisionist history and falls more into the absurd category. Not only NO on Gary returning but he would actually make the bench offense worse.that was 5 years ago bro: www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=gary+harris+3p%25+orlando+magicyou're telling me he's can be a 40% shooter playing off Franz Wagner but not Joker? lol and yeah, he's injury prone which is why he'll be available for the TPMLE. if he were not, the Magic would've given KCP's contract to Gary. this is our reality, the only fantasyland is believing Lonnie Walker will sign a contract barely above what DAJ just signed. Hope all what you want, but the numbers show he isn't the answer. If Calvin thinks Gary Harris at 20-24 mpg avg 6-7 ppg on 37% from 3 is solving our bench problems, then Booth is a moron. Lonnie Walker signed for a vet min with the Nets last year and isn't going to get more than the tax payer MLE from anybody. Sure he's also had injury issues but unlike Gary, Lonnie is a bucket getter this team needs desperately off the bench. Whatever, neither Walker or Gary are likely anyway. |
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Jun 30, 2024 20:02:03 GMT -5
You know what would cement this off-season one of the worst in recent Nuggets history? If we somehow also lose out on some of the players we have been connected to regardless of if they are a fit or not. (Westbrook, Micic, etc) This has been atrocious. Expected but atrocious nonetheless.
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Post by game on Jun 30, 2024 20:03:32 GMT -5
This. Shameful stuff by KSE. Don't feed me the we matched bullshit either.
I'm about sick of reading the vague "can't go in the second apron" without actually citing which part of the second apron would be prohibitive to something they actually do or would need to do. Have they aggregated salaries in the last two years? Does anybody think they'd be working the buyout market when so many Booth draft picks are a few more minutes away from being second team all NBA? It's such a convenient owner mechanism to avoid spending. After three years or whatever and you start losing your draft a lot, sure. But you go in now. He's 29.
Boston is a second apron team. Because they're in a title window. If not now, when? You should be all in.
The shooting on this team is going to be beyond pathetic, and the shooting was a major reason they went home in the second round last year.
I 95% blame KSE, but Booth being drunk on his own draft picks is the other 5%.
Losing KCP for Jokic's age 29 season to put a non shooter at the 2 is unforgivable. A three year deal is very tradeable in a year or two if you need to.
Hat tip to you guys. Hope all are well!
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Post by voodoo on Jun 30, 2024 20:05:21 GMT -5
You know what would cement this off-season one of the worst in recent Nuggets history? If we somehow also lose out on some of the players we have been connected to regardless of if they are a fit or not. (Westbrook, Micic, etc) This has been atrocious. Expected but atrocious nonetheless. Not all is lost, somehow they managed to resign DJ |
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Post by Ring on Jun 30, 2024 20:05:25 GMT -5
This. Shameful stuff by KSE. Don't feed me the we matched bullshit either. I'm about sick of reading the vague "can't go in the second apron" without actually citing which part of the second apron would be prohibitive to something they actually do or would need to do. The shooting on this team is going to be beyond pathetic, and the shooting was a major reason they went home in the second round last year. I 95% blame KSE, but Booth being drunk on his own draft picks is the other 5%. Hat tip to you guys. Hope all are well! Yeah Calvin is very clearly an arrogant guy from a "his guys" perspective. Burned us last year as Watson wasn't ready. Will burn us again this year as the team is going to be 5 starters and then a bunch of young guys not yet ready to be Championship contenders. |
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Post by JB on Jun 30, 2024 20:09:24 GMT -5
that was 5 years ago bro: www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=gary+harris+3p%25+orlando+magicyou're telling me he's can be a 40% shooter playing off Franz Wagner but not Joker? lol and yeah, he's injury prone which is why he'll be available for the TPMLE. if he were not, the Magic would've given KCP's contract to Gary. this is our reality, the only fantasyland is believing Lonnie Walker will sign a contract barely above what DAJ just signed. Hope all what you want, but the numbers show he isn't the answer. If Calvin thinks Gary Harris at 20-24 mpg avg 6-7 ppg on 37% from 3 is solving our bench problems, then Booth is a moron. Lonnie Walker signed for a vet min with the Nets last year and isn't going to get more than the tax payer MLE from anybody. Sure he's also had injury issues but unlike Gary, Lonnie is a bucket getter this team needs desperately off the bench. Whatever, neither Walker or Gary are likely anyway. again, Gary would be the starter and Westbrook would be the bench offense. Malone would never start Braun over Harris. I fail to see why Gary's shooting numbers would plummet when he's been a 40% 3pt shooter the past 4 seasons and the Nuggets are significantly more talented than the Magic. and more talent usually means better looks for a shooter. we'll soon see how much the TPMLE is worth on the open market. |
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Post by somborshuffle on Jun 30, 2024 20:15:30 GMT -5
Do you remember the whole "players will want to play with Joker to win a title and earn a bag" mantra after Bruce Brown's successful stint here? Well that was a fun pipedream while it lasted.
I'll wait until we see who Calvin brings in before making a full judgement but this is looking like two woeful offseasons in a row that have wasted the prime years of a Goat level talent that we'll never see again in Denver.
If you don't go all in with a player like the Joker as the Nuggets, when will you ever?
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Post by passtheballquick on Jun 30, 2024 20:19:19 GMT -5
I can't believe that we're keeping mpj. He should be #1 on the trade block. Before Zeke Trade him for who? Booth would probably trade him for a couple terrible role players and throw in a first too We could have gotten DJM and Bogdanovic from Atlanta. They're both better players than mpj Djm went to Pels for peanuts |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 20:22:02 GMT -5
At least it’s eastern conference. I want to see more competition for the Celtics in their conference.
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Post by Dante on Jun 30, 2024 20:23:30 GMT -5
Miles Bridges for TPMLE lol? So far this is so funny that makes me wanna cry. Calvin and Josh are playing ping pong at the moment i guess...
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Post by wicked3line on Jun 30, 2024 20:24:28 GMT -5
again, Gary would be the starter and Westbrook would be the bench offense. Malone would never start Braun over Harris. I fail to see why Gary's shooting numbers would plummet when he's been a 40% 3pt shooter the past 4 seasons and the Nuggets are significantly more talented than the Magic. and more talent usually means better looks for a shooter. Geez you are living in fantasyland with Harris as he is no longer a routine starter in the league. That is not debatable anymore as even Malone knows those days are over. Second, saying Gary "he's been a 40% 3pt shooter the past 4 seasons" is a complete fabricated story as simple check of the stats show he had just ONE season over 40% not all four seasons as you inferred. Using your theory CB also is a 40% 3 point shooter. We get you have a Gary Harris man crush but stats don’t support your theory. 20-21 season = 36.4% 21-22 season = 38.4% 22-23 season = 43.1% 23-24 season = 37.1% Also of note Nuggets were already a more talented team than the Magic in the last 3 seasons Gary was on the Nuggets yet he shot 32-34% from 3...hence your theory is blown completely apart. |
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Post by Dante on Jun 30, 2024 20:25:03 GMT -5
Tyus Jones for TPMLE lol?
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Post by somborshuffle on Jun 30, 2024 20:29:37 GMT -5
Tyus Jones would be an excellent secondary ball handling option but ideally off the bench. He couldn't replace KCP defensively.
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Post by JB on Jun 30, 2024 20:31:24 GMT -5
again, Gary would be the starter and Westbrook would be the bench offense. Malone would never start Braun over Harris. I fail to see why Gary's shooting numbers would plummet when he's been a 40% 3pt shooter the past 4 seasons and the Nuggets are significantly more talented than the Magic. and more talent usually means better looks for a shooter. Geez you are living in fantasyland with Harris as he is no longer a routine starter in the league. That is not debatable anymore as even Malone knows those days are over. Second, saying Gary "he's been a 40% 3pt shooter the past 4 seasons" is a complete fabricated story as simple check of the stats show he had just ONE season over 40% not all four seasons as you inferred. Using your theory CB also is a 40% 3 point shooter. We get you have a Gary Harris man crush but stats don’t support your theory. 20-21 season = 36.4% 21-22 season = 38.4% 22-23 season = 43.1% 23-24 season = 37.1% Also of note Nuggets were already a more talented team than the Magic in the last 3 Nuggets seasons yet he shot 32-34% from 3...hence your theory is blown completely apart. Um, that's how stats work brother. Braun is very much a 38% 3 point shooter.... because that's what he averaged over the course of a regular season. just like Gary averaged 40% from 3 over the course of his Magic career. and yes, Gary was bad from 3 during his last stint. but players do possess the ability to refine their skills as they age. |
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Post by Dante on Jun 30, 2024 20:31:41 GMT -5
Tyus Jones would be an excellent secondary ball handling option but ideally off the bench. He couldn't replace KCP defensively. Would you rather have undersized Tyus Jones running our 2nd unit or Westbrick? lol idk i just wanna cry now |
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Post by scooter on Jun 30, 2024 20:34:37 GMT -5
Last time i checked, Orlando is in Florida. Can you tell me the diff in tax $ for KCP to chose them over us in case we matched the offer? It’s not that much - Colorado income tax is just under 5%. On $66m, he’s saving around $3 million basically. Where state income tax gets rough is a place like California; where it’s close to 12%. I don’t think it works that way for these guys. My understanding is they file returns in every state in which they play, plus their legal residence, and pro-rate everything. So unless they choose a high tax state for their primary residence, there isn’t that much difference based on their team. |
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Post by somborshuffle on Jun 30, 2024 20:35:27 GMT -5
Tyus Jones would be an excellent secondary ball handling option but ideally off the bench. He couldn't replace KCP defensively. Would you rather have undersized Tyus Jones running our 2nd unit or Westbrick? lol idk i just wanna cry now Tyus easily. He can at least shoot - 41% from 3. His presence on the floor would help Jamal enormously. If by some miracle Christian Braun is ready to step into the starting line up, then Jones off the bench would be outstanding. But yes, the Nuggets need more help than that. |
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