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Post by famicommander on Apr 10, 2024 23:55:30 GMT -5
Poor rock. My deepest condolences.
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Post by GBG on Apr 10, 2024 23:56:32 GMT -5
Nope. Five missed FTs has never happened in his career. Trade him in the off season My comment was a testament to how many great games Jokic has had. This was a great game too, but not the greatest due to the missed FTs. |
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Post by somborshuffle on Apr 11, 2024 0:03:50 GMT -5
Trade him in the off season My comment was a testament to how many great games Jokic has had. This was a great game too, but not the greatest due to the missed FTs. When you consider what was at stake against the best defense in the league by far, to go 16/20 on top of everything else he did when the team was kind of teetering in that 3rd qtr. He was remarkable. But yes, he's been remarkable many times in his career. For me that's definitely a top 5 regular season Jokic performance. |
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Post by famicommander on Apr 11, 2024 0:58:11 GMT -5
Today was Vlatko's birthday. Hope he liked the present.
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Post by AbdulJabber on Apr 11, 2024 3:29:13 GMT -5
Game ball for CB/Watson. We know what we're gonna get from murjok, but when we get big games from other guys we don't lose.
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Post by freakns on Apr 11, 2024 4:11:58 GMT -5
Poor rock. My deepest condolences. who had worse experience last night, Gobert or rock? |
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Apr 11, 2024 4:42:16 GMT -5
Poor rock. My deepest condolences. who had worse experience last night, Gobert or rock? You know rock is in absolute shambles right now. Nobody is more quiet than rock after a win. As mama always said, "if you can't post anything negative, don't post anything at all." |
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Post by duh88 on Apr 11, 2024 5:15:27 GMT -5
TC built a team that could beat us. He took strong notes of the Bubble Playoffs of the Lakers. The Lakers had size we couldn't compete with and they beat us up. TC copied this playbook, and honestly put together an even better team - with Chris Finch coaching, no less.
Where he went wrong:
Conditioning.
TC clearly didn't take reverse notes on why we beat the Clippers in the Bubble Playoffs.
If the games were 3 quarters long, I really think the TWolves would beat us up. But their conditioning is garbage - much like the Bubble Clippers.
We'll see the TWolves in the WCF and I think we'll sweep them (much as we did to the Lakers). Notice the 4th quarter with the TWolves - legs fail, 3-pointers fail, layups are poor, and their defense produces fouls. Once they get into the WCF, I really question how much energy they'll have - and poor conditioning is not something you can fix between now and June. I'm surprised too because their conditioning is worse than what they showed last year - but maybe that's a result of their team going all-out for the first seed.
Lastly - when we play the TWolves, I do question if Watson needs to start over KCP, to match their size.
Really proud of this team. Massive win.
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Post by freakns on Apr 11, 2024 6:07:23 GMT -5
TWolves don't have bad conditioning. Ayton couldn't run with Jokic last year. AD couldn't run with Jokic last year. Only Miami could, and they have freak athletes.
Nuggets on other hand have Jokic and Murray who aren't best athletes, but they have something in thier heads that keeps them going even when they go beyond normal trashhold... and KCP and CB who are both insane athletes. Plus, they had BB last season who is like a bunny on infinite batteries.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 11, 2024 7:43:06 GMT -5
Strong win!
But with the Wolves talk, are we pretending Towns isnt out? How Nuggets looking without Murray
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Post by JB on Apr 11, 2024 8:05:54 GMT -5
the Nuggets will beat the T'Pups in a hypothetical playoff matchup because we will out-execute them in crunch time.
we have an elite half-court offense, they have have an elite half-court defense and in the NBA, the former beats the latter almost every time.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 11, 2024 9:06:33 GMT -5
They also miss their second best player. If Wolves is healthy and Nuggets miss Murray, who wins a best of 7?
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Post by JB on Apr 11, 2024 9:25:25 GMT -5
unfortunately for the Timberwolves, KAT's impact isn't anywhere near Jamal Murray's impact for the Nuggets so even if he returns and magically doesn't miss a beat, it doesn't change the grand scheme of things.
the Timberwolves have a -14 clutch time net rating. good for 28th in the league. only the Wizards and Pistons are worse. the Nuggets are #1
pre-ASB, which featured a 1. healthy KAT and 2. a butter schedule, the Timberwolves had a -6.9 clutch time net rating. even with everything going for them, they were still closer to a team like the Hawks than the Nuggets.
T'pups have always been a paper tiger. extremely talented and built to stop us on paper, but when it comes to things like chemistry, execution and teamness (as the great GK would put it) they were never on our level.
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Post by JB on Apr 11, 2024 9:45:30 GMT -5
just as a fun factiod I found from theathletic: in the last 28 seasons, there have been 137 teams with a double-digit negative clutch time net rating. 122 of those teams, 89%, missed the playoffs completely, meaning only 15 of those teams even made the playoffs --- and of those 15 teams, 8 of them lost in the first round, and another 5 lost in the second round... which means out of the 137 teams in the last 28 years with a double-digit negative clutch time net rating, only 2 made it further than the second round.
this does not portend well for our little bro franchise. at some point, that contradiction is going to catch up with them.
the Nuggets have a 25.5 Netrtg in the clutch. the Mavs are third with 20.5 and the Celtics are fourth with 15.5, respectively. if you're going to bet who will be the two hardest opponents in each respective conference, that would be it.
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Post by bignuggets on Apr 11, 2024 9:58:41 GMT -5
Also won this game with Murray on a minute restriction.
So, I get that KAT wasn’t playing, but Murray usually plays about 10 more minutes.
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Post by famicommander on Apr 11, 2024 11:20:20 GMT -5
They also miss their second best player. If Wolves is healthy and Nuggets miss Murray, who wins a best of 7? The Wolves have a better record without Towns than they do with him. A team isn't always equal to the sum of its parts. They are a lot more versatile with Reid out there than they are with Towns. |
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Post by famicommander on Apr 11, 2024 12:23:17 GMT -5
Nuggets scored on 15 consecutive possessions in the 4th quarter last night.
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Post by JB on Apr 11, 2024 12:31:42 GMT -5
great offense will almost always defeat great defense.
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 11, 2024 16:00:28 GMT -5
Without Murray, we play Reggie more so we beat nobody. We're at best second round exit but realistically 1st round exit
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Post by JB on Apr 11, 2024 16:37:28 GMT -5
would the Nuggets even make the playoffs with Reggie as the starting PG?
compare:
Nikola Jokic, Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Jr., Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Jamal Murray = 13.95 Netrtg
to:
Nikola Jokic, Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Jr., Kentavious Caldwell-Pope with Reggie OFF = 12.78 Netrtg
Nikola Jokic, Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Jr., Kentavious Caldwell-Pope with Reggie ON = 4.82 Netrtg
the West is brutal and that would be an extremely difficult hurdle to overcome over 82 games.
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