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Post by Dante on Feb 8, 2024 15:22:59 GMT -5
I don't know guys. That's why i asked.
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Post by famicommander on Feb 8, 2024 15:23:09 GMT -5
Cancar has a team option for under 2.5M next season. They won't cut him. Pickett has two more guaranteed years on his deal and then a team option. Odds are this is the team we're taking to the playoffs. Really was hoping for a Tyson trade into someone else’s open roster spot for a future second, but no dice. Nobody wants him. Shouldn't have given him the 3 year+option deal. If we had the offseason to do over I'm convinced Booth would've given 2 year minimum deals to Gillespie and Key and given 2 year two way offers to Pickett and Tyson. Oh well.
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Post by GBG on Feb 8, 2024 15:26:01 GMT -5
Really was hoping for a Tyson trade into someone else’s open roster spot for a future second, but no dice. Nobody wants him. Shouldn't have given him the 3 year+option deal. If we had the offseason to do over I'm convinced Booth would've given 2 year minimum deals to Gillespie and Key and given 2 year two way offers to Pickett and Tyson. Oh well. It’s easy to second guess Booth on this, but I guess Tyson could still work out as a 10-15 mpg guy off bench for someone in a couple years. It’s just that his GL performance has underwhelmed me based on his numbers. I haven’t watched him play.. Seems like a real disappointment after his hot SL.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 15:27:59 GMT -5
I would cut Picket if Micic is been bought out and Cancar for my man Gallo. Is that possible? Don’t they have fully guaranteed contracts and their salaries count on our cap whether we keep them or waive them? We are too close to second apron to think this is easy. Maybe Cancar can warrant an injury exception, I don’t know. If Cancar opens up a roster spot due to the injury exception, I hope we sign Gallo. Would love to see him get a ring before he retires.
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Post by JB on Feb 8, 2024 15:29:45 GMT -5
and I was called a pessimist in the off season for saying Booth going all-in on his second-round pick goonies instead of going the old reliable vet route was not a wise strategy with a high likelihood of failure.
Reggie/Watson playoff bench it is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 15:31:55 GMT -5
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Post by sawyeral on Feb 8, 2024 15:34:31 GMT -5
Waive DeAndre and sign Robin He’s not an upgrade. Terrible both ends of the floor. Has the ugliest baby hook shot you’ve ever seen
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Post by famicommander on Feb 8, 2024 15:34:36 GMT -5
It's not just the numbers that have been disappointing for Tyson in the G-League. He doesn't pass the eye test. He can get hot and make some shots but that's about all he's shown on the positive side. I don't see a guy who wants every rebound. I don't see a guy who wants to defend, and I don't see a guy who is fast enough to defend wings or strong enough to defend bigs anyway. I don't see a good ball handler or creator. I don't see a guy that commits to setting good screens or moving without the ball.
I have questions about his talent and how much dog he has in him.
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Post by jimijam28 on Feb 8, 2024 15:34:58 GMT -5
KSE love its cash
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Post by famicommander on Feb 8, 2024 15:37:53 GMT -5
and I was called a pessimist in the off season for saying Booth going all-in on his second-round pick goonies instead of going the old reliable vet route was not a wise strategy with a high likelihood of failure. Reggie/Watson playoff bench it is. What vets were out there that would be both affordable and fit in the playoff rotation anyway? The playoff rotation last year was 8 dudes. It was only ever going to be 8 or 9 this year anyway. It's the starters, Braun, Watson, Reggie, and maybe one of Holiday or Strawther. And that will be enough.
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Post by scooter on Feb 8, 2024 15:46:37 GMT -5
what the hell is wrong with Masai? Prioritizing: 1. Tanking 2. Cap space 3. Canadians and other veterans who maybe won’t be too unhappy/disruptive while the tanking is going on.
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Post by JB on Feb 8, 2024 15:47:00 GMT -5
and I was called a pessimist in the off season for saying Booth going all-in on his second-round pick goonies instead of going the old reliable vet route was not a wise strategy with a high likelihood of failure. Reggie/Watson playoff bench it is. What vets were out there that would be both affordable and fit in the playoff rotation anyway? The playoff rotation last year was 8 dudes. It was only ever going to be 8 or 9 this year anyway. It's the starters, Braun, Watson, Reggie, and maybe one of Holiday or Strawther. And that will be enough. we don't know because we were not linked to a single vet. not a single "the NBA Champion Nuggets were also interested in my client" press release that agents funnel through Woj or Shams. I'm sure there would have been at least one or two ring chasers that would have been receptive to benefiting from the Nikola Jokic stimulus package the same way Bruce did, but Booth hitting on Braun and Watson on the same draft (which was a great job) had him thinking he was some draft genius that could game the system. it was a costly act of hubris.
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Feb 8, 2024 15:49:09 GMT -5
Trade limitations aside, It's been known since before the season started that having Zeke Nnaji listed as our back-up "5" would be a big concern. Obviously Zeke has not shown substantial improvement this year and we have to rely on DAJ. Reggie Jackson's tendency to fall into ISO play has also been made apparent. He doesn't fit our system in the long run.
Those were my only two points of contention but it's understandable that we didn't make a more substantial move due to the limitations. Now our guys have to lock in and focus in order to garner that 2nd chip. Bench is a little weak; it should be interesting.
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Post by famicommander on Feb 8, 2024 15:49:31 GMT -5
And honestly Bruce hasn't been all that much better than Reggie this year
Reggie: 11.1 points, 2.1 rebounds, 3.9 assists, 0.6 steals, 0.2 blocks, 1.3 turnovers, 1.9 fouls, .548 eFG%, .546 TS%
-2.2 BPM, -0.1 VORP, 13.0 PER, .071 WS/48
Bruce: 11.5 points, 4.7 rebounds, 2.9 assists, 1.0 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.2 turnovers, 2.4 fouls, .548 eFG%, .566 TS%
-2.4 BPM, -0.1 VORP, 12.2 PER, .069 WS/48
Would I rather have Bruce? Yes.
Is the difference between them bigger than the difference between Peyton Watson and Jeff Green? Not in my opinion. I think Watson is better than Green by a larger margin than Bruce is better than Reggie.
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Post by scooter on Feb 8, 2024 15:50:19 GMT -5
really great, we opened up a roster spot for some team in the French league. well done Booth. He’s playing in the Italian league, but not that much. His coach Ettore Messina was probably honest with the Nuggets FO.
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Post by GBG on Feb 8, 2024 15:50:35 GMT -5
It's not just the numbers that have been disappointing for Tyson in the G-League. He doesn't pass the eye test. He can get hot and make some shots but that's about all he's shown on the positive side. I don't see a guy who wants every rebound. I don't see a guy who wants to defend, and I don't see a guy who is fast enough to defend wings or strong enough to defend bigs anyway. I don't see a good ball handler or creator. I don't see a guy that commits to setting good screens or moving without the ball. I have questions about his talent and how much dog he has in him. So Tyler Lydon 2.0, which might be a modest upgrade of Tyler Lydon 1.0 in the same way the iPad 2 was an upgrade over the original iPad.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Feb 8, 2024 15:52:27 GMT -5
Don’t they have fully guaranteed contracts and their salaries count on our cap whether we keep them or waive them? We are too close to second apron to think this is easy. Maybe Cancar can warrant an injury exception, I don’t know. If Cancar opens up a roster spot due to the injury exception, I hope we sign Gallo. Injury exceptions don't create roster spots, only salary exceptions. And Vlatko makes a small enough amount that the salary exception from his injury would only be useful for offering more to a rookie minimum player (not even a veteran minimum player) than they could get on the open market.
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Post by famicommander on Feb 8, 2024 15:54:15 GMT -5
Trade limitations aside, It's been known since before the season started that having Zeke Nnaji listed as our back-up "5" would be a big concern. Obviously Zeke has not shown substantial improvement this year and we have to rely on DAJ. Reggie Jackson's tendency to fall into ISO play has also been made apparent. He doesn't fit our system in the long run. Those were my only two points of contention but it's understandable that we didn't make a more substantial move due to the limitations. Now our guys have to lock in and focus in order to garner that 2nd chip. Bench is a little weak; it should be interesting. Aaron Gordon is our backup 5. We just don't like to show that look in the regular season if we can avoid doing so.
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Post by scooter on Feb 8, 2024 15:56:55 GMT -5
I imagine that part of the Nuggets’ inaction is due to a Malone philosophy that its difficult to integrate guys into their schemes late in the season. The FO also wants to give the young guys a chance to improve enough by next season to contribute — inexpensively.
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Post by GBG on Feb 8, 2024 15:58:14 GMT -5
I like Watson more than Uncle Jeff too, but his inexperience might show in a painful way during a game 7 moreso than it would have with Green. With everything on the line, the pressure for a young player to come through and, more importantly, avoid costly mistakes, is huge. Green was no good but was a low mistake player in the spotlight due to his experience.
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