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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 5:06:18 GMT -5
Like I said before, limit Devin Hooker and we win. We didn't do that and lost
I missed the game as well lol ...will make sure to watch game 4
mikstradamus is coming back too ...
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 5:16:37 GMT -5
Looking at the boxscore, KCP was -12 in 34 minutes ...I guess thats why we lost? Braun only played 10 minutes and was -3.
For game 4, decrease in KCP's minutes and increase in Braun's minutes ...give Peyton Watson 5-8 minutes as well on Devin Hooker and Kevin Dick
Speaking of Kevin Dick, 18 free throw attempts? WTF
Edit: Jeff Green -20 in 14 minutes and Bruce Brown -14 in 23 minutes ...stupid Malone, give Peyton Watson, Zeke Nnaji and Bryant/Reggie Jackson some minutes
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Post by freakns on May 6, 2023 6:26:24 GMT -5
And also Malone watching Booker score 47 points on 80% fg and not changing anything is as moronic as it gets. Who here said Booker is close to Jokic level? And who laughed at it I said it. Dunno who laughed, don't keep the track... But that's not important. Weather he is or not on Jokic's level, Nuggets know they have to guard him. Tonight they didn't. I also said I'm fine with KD scoring 50 if we can keep Booker to 25. Thats 75 points. They scored 86 tonight. That right there is game difference. btw, these are not some nuclear findings. I'm pretty sure Malone knows them very well. He just opt to have Durant as primary target to stop and Nuggets did solid job so far. KD was 12-31 tonight. Thats as good of a defense as you can have. He also got awarder at least 6-8 FT just because he is Kevin Durant. He didn't attack the rim, he was going for pull up jumpers, but getting calls simply because his name and a fact they played in Phoenix. Those same contacts were not given to him in game 2 and they lost the game. Nuggets don't have to change whole lot of stuff. We got zero from the bench, that happens. They were excellent up until this game, so can't really blame them. There is a reason they are bench players, not superstars. MPJ showed. Not perfect game from him, but as long as we get 10 rebounds I'm happy. 6/10 for 3 also helps. Murray was also good. He was just dead tired in 4th and thats 100% on Malone. Jamal played how much time without any rest? He needs to find a rest for him. Call time out 8 minutes before end, sit Jamal on bench, bring him back after TV timeout half way through 4th. Thats 2 minutes game time, but with two timeouts, thats 6-7 minutes rest. This is something I don't think Murray take full appreciation of. How do you outrun your opponent? Well, who is pushing pace on fastbreaks? KCP, BB, Braun, MPJ. thats for most part 4 guys who attack on fastbreaks. These are also guys who gets most rest during game. Jokic has played 42 minutes tonight. Did he looked gassed? Not too much, cause he takes countless possesions without entering into 3pt area. Thats pacing yourself. LeBron is master of it. Last 5 minutes, f**k yeah, we go full power, spending all the energy we have left. Murray doesn't know how to take foot of the gas during game so he would have enough energy last 5 minutes. Thats why Malone needs to do it and give him some rest during 4th. I'm pretty sure Jokic can survive 2 minutes game time without Jamal. Also, Jokic takes few defensive possesions here and there where he guards guy in the corner. Have Murray do the same, at least when Jokic is resting. This is the only thing I think Nuggets should change. Find enough rest for Jokic, Murray and AG. Those 3 are moving parts on half court offense and takes most contact throughout game. Oh, and one more thing. When Jokic is off, get MPJ in. We can't have Jock freaking Landale dominates glass. MPJ is not going to box him out, but he will go and take that rebound while AG is trying to contain Landale. If you get 2 stops and collect rebounds, thats extra minute Jokic can rest. |
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Post by Dunkman on May 6, 2023 7:11:20 GMT -5
Nothing that happened in this game makes me worry. That can change obviously but I didn’t expect them to just go away.
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Post by bignuggets on May 6, 2023 7:46:55 GMT -5
Murray killed us in the 4th. He’d play hero ball and not give Jokić a touch. And when he finally did, Jokic would give him an open look that he would brick.
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Post by voodoo on May 6, 2023 8:11:01 GMT -5
Murray killed us in the 4th. He’d play hero ball and not give Jokić a touch. And when he finally did, Jokic would give him an open look that he would brick. Jokic did give him two open looks from 3 late in the game, and Jamal bricked both of them. The issue is jokic was wide open and probably should have taken the 3's himself. I am not making any excuses for the blue arrow, he killed the flow of the offense with his over dribbling one vs five BS. One play that sticks out in my mind is when he was at the top of the key doing his yoyo act and kcpoop was wide open clapping for the ball, JM didn't see him, so kcpoop went to the corner and then cut to the paint, Jamal was still in full yoyo mode and missed him again. It's painful to watch when he goes into yoyo mode because the smart simple play would produce positive results 99% of the time. Move the damn ball and make their defense work. |
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Post by eathb on May 6, 2023 9:20:59 GMT -5
Phoenix might have the worst bench the NBA playoffs have ever seen.
Yet our bench got slaughtered tonight.
I really hope randoms and almost out of the league players in Ross, Warren and Lansdale aren't the turning point for them
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Post by bignuggets on May 6, 2023 9:30:30 GMT -5
Murray killed us in the 4th. He’d play hero ball and not give Jokić a touch. And when he finally did, Jokic would give him an open look that he would brick. Jokic did give him two open looks from 3 late in the game, and Jamal bricked both of them. The issue is jokic was wide open and probably should have taken the 3's himself. I remember that play. Weird decision from Jokic even if it did lead to an open look. He had no one in front of him and then decided to drive it and then kick out. Should’ve shot the 3 for sure. |
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Post by JB on May 6, 2023 11:08:40 GMT -5
calm all.
the only thing G3 proved is Booker and KD have to combine for nearly 90 points to beat us. good luck doing that another three times. Murray was absolutely winded and tried to shoot himself into a rhythm, which is not a smart strategy. but this is the cost of committing to a 8 man rotation.
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Post by jimijam28 on May 6, 2023 11:22:49 GMT -5
Drama queens on here, ring s**t gm thread did this
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Post by mmh on May 6, 2023 11:43:08 GMT -5
If Denver just needs to hold either KD or Booker below 40 twice to win the series, I’m good.
Double Booker and let AG take AD. They aren’t averaging 80+ for a series. They just got their long rest. Let’s see them do it again in 48 hours.
And again in Denver. And again.
And while Monty might have found a spark plug, he ruined Ayton for the series. Dude was shook before he got benched in POs for a guy he probably never heard of.
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Post by eathb on May 6, 2023 11:48:15 GMT -5
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Post by jimijam28 on May 6, 2023 12:15:55 GMT -5
move on, just one game
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Post by scooter on May 6, 2023 12:16:29 GMT -5
The closeup shot of Murray while Durant was shooting FT showed him looking defeated and exhausted. Murray plays with so much emotion and after missing the last two postseasons (and never making the allstar game) it seems he feels he has so much to prove. I think it clouds his judgment sometimes. I’ve commented about how late career Lebron constantly seems to be threading the needle between winning and preserving his body — its actually very impressive. Murray gets caught up in his fiery competitiveness sometimes and it hurts his decision-making. Its not like it was game 7 — Murray should know that with another game on Sunday, he shouldn’t completely empty the tank by the start of the 4th quarter given that he hasn’t gotten back to 100% fitness. In any event, it was still a good effort by the Nuggets. Some of their role players were having subpar games, but it wasn’t like the team stunk. It was a good effort. Porter’s rough 1st half obviously led to Murray losing confidence in him, which was unfortunate because the Nuggets needed some outside shooting to keep the Suns’ defense honest. The game might have been different if Porter had been more effective early and stayed involved with more consistency — the Suns were helping into the paint defensively and daring some of the Nuggets to hit outside shots and in this game they didn’t. Obviously, the Suns have high end talent and there is no reason this series was going to be easy. I just hope Murray can recover enough by Sunday to give the Nuggets a good chance to win that one. And if Murray is struggling physically, it might be time to give Jackson some minutes. He’s a proven playoff performer. |
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Post by JB on May 6, 2023 13:07:16 GMT -5
ironic enough, last night was reminiscent of the Nuggets G1 win over the Spurs in 2007, led by the star power of AI and Melo:
unfortunately for the Nuggets, the Spurs were a more cohesive unit with the better supporting cast and that was the only win of the series we got to enjoy.
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Post by Ring on May 6, 2023 14:24:25 GMT -5
The closeup shot of Murray while Durant was shooting FT showed him looking defeated and exhausted. Murray plays with so much emotion and after missing the last two postseasons (and never making the allstar game) it seems he feels he has so much to prove. I think it clouds his judgment sometimes. I’ve commented about how late career Lebron constantly seems to be threading the needle between winning and preserving his body — its actually very impressive. Murray gets caught up in his fiery competitiveness sometimes and it hurts his decision-making. Its not like it was game 7 — Murray should know that with another game on Sunday, he shouldn’t completely empty the tank by the start of the 4th quarter given that he hasn’t gotten back to 100% fitness. In any event, it was still a good effort by the Nuggets. Some of their role players were having subpar games, but it wasn’t like the team stunk. It was a good effort. Porter’s rough 1st half obviously led to Murray losing confidence in him, which was unfortunate because the Nuggets needed some outside shooting to keep the Suns’ defense honest. The game might have been different if Porter had been more effective early and stayed involved with more consistency — the Suns were helping into the paint defensively and daring some of the Nuggets to hit outside shots and in this game they didn’t. Obviously, the Suns have high end talent and there is no reason this series was going to be easy. I just hope Murray can recover enough by Sunday to give the Nuggets a good chance to win that one. And if Murray is struggling physically, it might be time to give Jackson some minutes. He’s a proven playoff performer. I think at the end of the day one of Murrays biggest strengths is one of his biggest weaknesses. He's confident. I'm sure if you gave him truth serum he thinks he's better than Booker for example. He's not. And he has to just start making the simple play. Murray throughout the entire playoffs has missed so many easy reads. Sometimes it doesn't matter because he'll make a tough shot. But the Nuggets offense hasn't been great in the postseason and a lot of it is because of Murray. In the 3rd quarter the Nuggets offense was humming because Jokic was generating tons of open shots and the Nuggets were getting advantages in transition. Murray is consistently getting the ball across halfcourt at the 16 or 17 second mark and then he's dribbling the air out of the ball. Less time you have = less quality of shot. |
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Post by Ring on May 6, 2023 14:25:43 GMT -5
100%. Tough game. Was winnable. Nuggets play the exact same way in Game 4 they probably win. Just need one role player to step up. Last night the only guys who shot well were MPJ and Jokic, KCP and AG were atrocious and Jamal and Bruce were subpar. I do feel like we need a Game 4 where Jokic just says f**k this and wills them to a win. If the Suns win Game 4 I really think it's a 55/45 series at that point. |
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Post by rock on May 6, 2023 14:56:21 GMT -5
I know part of me understands that sweeps in the nba are rare. Especially in the second round (I read only 20% result in sweeps and I’m guessing it’s lower when the two teams only had an 8 game win differential)
So losing a playoff game on the road shouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Every single playoff team loses games in the playoffs. Even the 73 win warriors.
Yet this one feels so much worse. Feels like suns in 6. The series has flipped. They know how to beat us. They take game 4 and control the series and have all the momentum going forward.
Nugglife is too strong
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Post by famicommander on May 6, 2023 15:19:05 GMT -5
I know part of me understands that sweeps in the nba are rare. Especially in the second round (I read only 20% result in sweeps and I’m guessing it’s lower when the two teams only had an 8 game win differential) So losing a playoff game on the road shouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Every single playoff team loses games in the playoffs. Even the 73 win warriors. Yet this one feels so much worse. Feels like suns in 6. The series has flipped. They know how to beat us. They take game 4 and control the series and have all the momentum going forward. Nugglife is too strong  Get a grip. |
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Post by TNF on May 6, 2023 15:48:35 GMT -5
Everyone gives Rock a lot of sh*t for his pessimism, but he has history to back him. As I've said, things can change and I hope they do, but it's ridiculous to ignore what's happened in the past. Unlike most here, I was a hardcore Nuggets fan when Doug Moe was coach, and decades before that. Most casuals have no idea the best TEAM the Nuggets have ever fielded were the teams in the mid-80s. Better than the Bird Celtics and the Showtime Lakers. Yes, we lost to the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals, but we were the better team. That year, the team was decimated with injuries, so it was the Denver bench playing the Lakers, not the Denver stars.
Casuals don't realize the Nuggets played for the championship...in the last year of the ABA. We were the best team that year as well, but we choked, and it had little to do with Dr. J. Instead it was a plump dude named John Williamson who beat us almost single-handed, both with his scorching hot shooting and by stealing balls left and right.
Another thing casuals are unaware of is that the Nuggets had the first parade in Denver, long before the Avs or the Broncos. After the loss to the Lakers, because fully healthy, we had a better than 50/50 chance of beating one of the most renowned teams in basketball history. (a part of the Doug Moe documentary, but I don't need that, because I was there)
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