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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 25, 2019 4:26:57 GMT -5
Clippers playing without PG too.
anyone not accepting the Clips winning it all is in denial. We will have a great season tho
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Post by odvala on Oct 25, 2019 5:17:03 GMT -5
How can this guy have a job on ESPN?! Even if it's just a radio...I can bet that he never watched a full Nuggets game in his life! Cheap sensationalism, journalism today is all about clicks,likes,views etc. and he is going to get those just because he wanna be a troll...
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 25, 2019 9:13:51 GMT -5
Game 2 it's over lac too good
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Post by mountnuggs on Oct 25, 2019 10:00:35 GMT -5
Pretty sure nobody saw Toronto winning the championship at this time. It’s been 2 games into the season and there is a long way to go. A lot can happen in a full season.
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 25, 2019 10:05:09 GMT -5
Clippers playing without PG too. anyone not accepting the Clips winning it all is in denial. We will have a great season tho thanks rock jr. |
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Post by Coach Sticky on Oct 25, 2019 10:09:49 GMT -5
On one side, Clippers beat GSW and LAL already - without Paul George. Whatever you say, for a team that’s basically Kawhi and PG and some good role players (yeah and Lou, Harrell is a - perfect and unbelievably good - role player for me)... that’s two impressive wins.
And on the other side, they played two teams that are looking for their identity as they good a lot of new players themselves
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Post by scooter on Oct 25, 2019 11:59:40 GMT -5
Clippers playing without PG too. anyone not accepting the Clips winning it all is in denial. We will have a great season tho If its the Warriors of two seasons ago, sure their superiority was that obvious and undeniable. The Clippers are not that level of sure thing. The team is mostly made up of platoon level players and their lack of quality size is a weakness (Harrell has no track record of playing the minutes they'll need from him). Their backcourt depth is also shaky, as an injury to Williams or Beverly will put them in a difficult situation. Beverly has missed at least 25 games due to injury in half of his seasons. Leonard has only played more than 66 regular season games in 2 of his 8 NBA seasons. The Clippers are great if fully healthy, but there are some question marks. |
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Post by inyourmind on Oct 25, 2019 12:17:32 GMT -5
Pretty sure nobody saw Toronto winning the championship at this time. It’s been 2 games into the season and there is a long way to go. A lot can happen in a full season. Toronto got insanely lucky tho. That Leonard shot was probably one of the luckiest shots I've ever seen. It rolled around the rim forever. Could make an argument that if GS is healthy than they win again which is what people predicted. GS just wasn't healthy. Not taking anything away from Toronto, you play who you play, but GS was about as injured as you can be at that point. I'm not predicting GS to fall off in a big way this year but they've developed some bad habits over the years being as stacked as they were. Guy's like Curry/Green have got to get alot of rest and could take nights off whenever they've wanted too. Curry getting all the defensive attention, and not being able to rest for 15 games a year will be interesting to follow. Curry can't play 51 games like he did 2 seasons ago for example. |
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Post by inyourmind on Oct 25, 2019 12:24:42 GMT -5
Clippers playing without PG too. anyone not accepting the Clips winning it all is in denial. We will have a great season tho If its the Warriors of two seasons ago, sure their superiority was that obvious and undeniable. The Clippers are not that level of sure thing. The team is mostly made up of platoon level players and their lack of quality size is a weakness (Harrell has no track record of playing the minutes they'll need from him). Their backcourt depth is also shaky, as an injury to Williams or Beverly will put them in a difficult situation. Beverly has missed at least 25 games due to injury in half of his seasons. Leonard has only played more than 66 regular season games in 2 of his 8 NBA seasons. The Clippers are great if fully healthy, but there are some question marks. I think you've been sleeping on the Clippers depth pieces. They did pretty well without Gallo last year. Harrell is a beast. He averaged 16/6 last year in 26 MPG. Not quite sure I'd call that a platoon level player. Don't think 30-32 MPG will be a gigantic step for him. He played what like 4 more minutes last night than he did last year I think Zubac has always been kinda underrated. Harkless/Green/Shament are all solid depth pieces. Clippers are about as deep as you can hope to be with two MVP players on your team. Health I agree with tho. George/Leonard need to stay healthy, and Beverly needs to be healthy in the playoffs. |
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Oct 25, 2019 12:34:40 GMT -5
I think we got spoiled with the Warriors of the last few years -- a team that had 3 in-their-prime hall of famers with some team-friendly contracts, a swiss-army-knife defender who was able to thrive in the environment the HoF guys created, and the ability to pick up quality veterans who shored up their depth.
Outside of that, the Clippers are about as well-constructed as you can get. A pair of two-way all-star wings, a great defensive pg, two bench guys who could each be 6moy in Lou and Harrell, and enough depth that their bench can at least hold their own.
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Post by scooter on Oct 25, 2019 17:55:24 GMT -5
I think we got spoiled with the Warriors of the last few years -- a team that had 3 in-their-prime hall of famers with some team-friendly contracts, a swiss-army-knife defender who was able to thrive in the environment the HoF guys created, and the ability to pick up quality veterans who shored up their depth. Outside of that, the Clippers are about as well-constructed as you can get. A pair of two-way all-star wings, a great defensive pg, two bench guys who could each be 6moy in Lou and Harrell, and enough depth that their bench can at least hold their own. Agreed. I just think Zubac will get played off the court in some games, and in those games they'll need 35 minutes from Harrell. They are really really good -- no doubt -- but seem dependent on Harrell's health. Is Patterson or Green or Leonard or George or Harkless going to defend Towns and Jokic and Embiid and whatnot? |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 25, 2019 19:48:27 GMT -5
Game 2 it's over lac too good well they have 2 top 5 players and their 6th man is better than our maxed out PG |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 25, 2019 19:50:29 GMT -5
Clippers playing without PG too. anyone not accepting the Clips winning it all is in denial. We will have a great season tho If its the Warriors of two seasons ago, sure their superiority was that obvious and undeniable. The Clippers are not that level of sure thing. The team is mostly made up of platoon level players and their lack of quality size is a weakness (Harrell has no track record of playing the minutes they'll need from him). Their backcourt depth is also shaky, as an injury to Williams or Beverly will put them in a difficult situation. Beverly has missed at least 25 games due to injury in half of his seasons. Leonard has only played more than 66 regular season games in 2 of his 8 NBA seasons. The Clippers are great if fully healthy, but there are some question marks. well injuries would destroy any team so that's not really fair and I am not saying this because they beat GSW. I say this because it came up. Clippers have an amazingly balanced team |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Oct 25, 2019 19:52:41 GMT -5
how many playoff games did Leonard miss last season? who gives a s**t about regular season. we are talking about winning a championship right?
we could barely keep home court against an Derrick White led Spurs and didn't keep it against Portland.
of course dont give up but clippers are heavy heavy favourites
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Post by duh88 on Oct 26, 2019 5:40:17 GMT -5
I don’t see the clippers lasting. Kawhi, Beverley, PG all have suspect histories with injuries. I’m with scooter. They don’t scare me.
Not saying they’re not good - I’m convinced the west finals rep is either us, the jazz or clippers - and I like our chances.
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Post by bignuggets on Oct 26, 2019 9:17:12 GMT -5
How can this guy have a job on ESPN?! Even if it's just a radio...I can bet that he never watched a full Nuggets game in his life! Cheap sensationalism, journalism today is all about clicks,likes,views etc. and he is going to get those just because he wanna be a troll... That’s his gimmick. He’s stupid, but can be pretty funny. This was just stupid though. He also swears that Durant has 0 championships because they don’t count with the Warriors.. Also said this will be Kerr’s 1st year as head coach. |
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Post by scooter on Oct 26, 2019 12:03:01 GMT -5
how many playoff games did Leonard miss last season? who gives a s**t about regular season. we are talking about winning a championship right? we could barely keep home court against an Derrick White led Spurs and didn't keep it against Portland. of course dont give up but clippers are heavy heavy favourites Maybe. I haven't seen enough of teams this season to decide that any one team should be considered a heavy favorite to win it all. We also don't know what personnel changes will happen during the season or what injuries will occur during the season. I'm not arguing the Nuggets have a better chance to win a title this year than the Clippers. Right now I would certainly pick the Clippers over the Nuggets to win the title this year. They are a veteran team and veteran teams are always more likely to go far in the playoffs if they stay healthy. Williams (who has become a bit overrated as he is good but there are reasons multiple teams chose not to make him a starter, and he's played on 6 different teams since 2012) turns 33 tomorrow, and Beverley is 31. This is Williams' 15th NBA season. He's a good player and the Williams/Beverly tandem is good. But since they are both in their 30's, this particular backcourt is not built to last. tbf, though, Shamet is a very good young player based on what we've seen so far (sarcastic kudos to the eastern conf -- the 76ers traded 2 first round picks including an unprotected Heat 2021 1st, a few 2nds, Shamet, Covington and Saric for Tobias Harris -- hope that works out for them; oh, I guess one could include signing 33 year old Al Horford to play out of position at starting PF for 4 years/$100 mil since they had the cap space partly from trading Jimmy Butler). I've called the Clippers' guys platoon level players because that's the role they've played their entire careers. Williams has averaged 24.6 minutes/game over a 14 year career. Beverly has averaged 28 minutes/game while missing a lot of games due to injury -- before this season he played only 380 regular season games in 7 seasons (average 54 games/season) after coming into the league at age 24. He's been a platoon player rather than a full time starter mostly because he has limited offensive skills and is a low percentage shooter (40.6% FG last season, although he is a good low volume 3 point shooter). He also tends not to be durable since he is very small and depends on his hyper-caffeinated style of defense to be effective -- I don't really see that improving in his 30's. The Clippers are very good. But a team with exactly 2 players who have been proven starters in the league is not a title lock. OK, if the Leonard/George combination winds up being as good (and durable) as Jordan/Pippen, sure they can be a dominant title team with 2 stars surrounded by a bunch of good platoon players. |
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Post by inyourmind on Oct 26, 2019 14:30:07 GMT -5
I don't get why Lou Williams first 5 years in the league matter compared to now. He's averaged 21/5 over the last 156 games on 43/36/88 shooting splits. So he's a platoon level player because he plays what like 26-29 MPG rather than 32? Much like with Beasley I think you overrate the quality of your average starter. There's alot of teams in the league. A guy like Harrell could absolutely start on a bunch of different teams. So could Lou Williams. Harkless started for Portland last year. Zubac is a starter. Shamet/Beverly are solid starters.
Health is a legitimate concern tho. George/Leonard/Beverly. I don't see the issue with there depth. No worse than alot of championship teams. They have two star players, two top 6th men of the year contenders, and atleast 4 guys you can make a case for as legitimate starters in Harkless, Shamet, Beverly, Zubac.
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Post by GBG on Oct 26, 2019 16:22:10 GMT -5
I don’t see the clippers lasting. Kawhi, Beverley, PG all have suspect histories with injuries. I’m with scooter. They don’t scare me. Not saying they’re not good - I’m convinced the west finals rep is either us, the jazz or clippers - and I like our chances. The Clippers’ duh88 is saying, “I don’t see the Nuggets lasting. Jokic is out of shape and a big man like that eventually gets hurt. They had a ton of injuries last year which have reduced the effectiveness of guys like Harris and Barton. Murray is so inconsistent and young. Millsap is getting so old, they have to rest him in their second game‘s fourth quarter and OT. They don’t scare me.” And you know what? Both duhs might be right. Whoever is healthiest and luckiest come playoff time will go further. |
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 26, 2019 16:41:22 GMT -5
Long season, wake me up in April when we can talk about playoffs and who going to win the championship
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