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Post by GBG on Feb 6, 2019 10:56:51 GMT -5
I’ve said for a while that TC will not pay large multiyear money to Murray and Harris at the same time. He needs to make a decision at some point which one he wants to stay with. Murray will not become expensive until after 2020, so there’s still time before he needs to decide. But the emergence of Beasley might have sped up his timetable. And the availability of AD might make this issue one of immediate urgency.
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Post by blackhill on Feb 6, 2019 11:29:46 GMT -5
Nuggets have recalled Jarred Vanderbilt from the G League for tonight’s matchup in Brooklyn.
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Post by jimijam28 on Feb 6, 2019 11:35:08 GMT -5
paul is out again
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Post by gallo8 on Feb 6, 2019 11:45:00 GMT -5
You can say the Nuggets need the experience, but not when you finish top 3. The expectations are higher than the beginning of the season, and most people won’t be satisfied if we don’t make the WCF. Second round exit on 7 game series is fine by me. It’s important to not lose like the last we were in the playoffs, that was painful as f**k.
Lose while giving it your best and there will be lessons to learn, lose like a coward and there goes your confidence and chemistry.
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Post by scooter on Feb 6, 2019 11:52:55 GMT -5
Rock, don't you live in SoCal? I figured you'd know about the Lakers' 42 point loss to the Pacers tonight. BTW, Lebron chalked it up to "jet lag," although the Lakers had not played since Saturday. Yeah but the lakers are in 10th Not gonna lie, still enjoyed it. Praying that AD deal doesn’t go through I don't have this same fear about the Lakers. They drafted badly over a 5 year period of tanking and high lotto, with only Ball and Ingram (neither of which impress me that much) to show from three #2 picks and a #7 pick (and they would also have had the #10 pick in 2018 if not for a dumb 2012 trade for a washed up 36 year old Steve Nash who broke his leg in his second Lakers' game and played very little for the Lakers before retiring after a couple of years). Their cupboard is relatively bare. Out of the 60 players drafted in 2003, the only ones still playing in the NBA are James, Wade (retiring), Korver and Pachulia. James is a historic player -- maybe the greatest ever -- but father time remains undefeated and the end is in sight while the Lakers have James on the payroll for roughly $40 mil/season for 3 more seasons after this one (and also have Deng counting against the cap for $5 mil/year each of those years). Great players are going to think twice about whether they want to sign long term contracts to join a very highly paid Lebron heading toward his twilight tour. Here's the thing about the possibility the Lakers trade for Davis -- he could bolt from the Lakers in 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 12:03:42 GMT -5
Thon Maker likely traded for Stanley Johnson.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 6, 2019 12:16:26 GMT -5
Can Nuggets win a playoff series without experience? Depends on the opponents I guess but honestly, I do worry that our lack of experience will result in a first-round loss. Especially if we were to get the Spurs which is very possible. Agreed
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 6, 2019 12:17:56 GMT -5
Vincent Ellis: Don’t think this is happening before Thursday, but heard from several people over last couple days that #Nuggets guard (former #Spartan) Gary Harris can be had. When you look at cap sheet, you understand why he might be available when you see the way Malik Beasley is coming on. Utter BS. I dont think the FO would leak this after the Kevin Love rumors and that whole mess. Just "experts" trying to get cute looking at rosters Sounds like we just wanna dump him. Before our first playoffs run in 7 years. Yeaaaaa riiiight
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 6, 2019 12:20:14 GMT -5
Can Nuggets win a playoff series without experience? Fair question, broken avatar guy (it results in odd cluttering of words when replying to you), and I most certainly think playoff experience is a bonus. Let's hope they win a series, but also appreciate they made the playoffs and gained experience if they don't get past the first round. Leave me alone! Cant edit my avi on my phone and i dont own a computer anymore. f**k computers
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Post by nuggetshipster on Feb 6, 2019 12:23:10 GMT -5
Vincent Ellis: Don’t think this is happening before Thursday, but heard from several people over last couple days that #Nuggets guard (former #Spartan) Gary Harris can be had. When you look at cap sheet, you understand why he might be available when you see the way Malik Beasley is coming on. I'm okay with this if talent is acquired and Gary just isn't given away. Harris is seemingly becoming the injury prone player, TC has a deep roster, and maybe trading him can improve the team. Negative, how much does team chemistry come into play if he's traded away? Locker room culture matters, but how much I don't know. Are we really that deep at SG without Harris? Remember that Barton is our only SF. What if Beasley goes down for a week or two. Maybe in the summer when we have the draft and FA to regain dept
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Post by BBBbbb on Feb 6, 2019 12:45:31 GMT -5
Fair question, broken avatar guy (it results in odd cluttering of words when replying to you), and I most certainly think playoff experience is a bonus. Let's hope they win a series, but also appreciate they made the playoffs and gained experience if they don't get past the first round. Leave me alone! Cant edit my avi on my phone and i dont own a computer anymore. f**k computers Wtf is wrong with you and sticky and computers?
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Post by rock on Feb 6, 2019 12:54:59 GMT -5
Odds to win the NBA title/ Golden State Warriors -215 Toronto Raptors +800 Boston Celtics +1000 Los Angeles Lakers +1100 Milwaukee Bucks +1100 Houston Rockets +1300 Philadelphia 76ers +1600 Oklahoma City Thunder +1900 Denver Nuggets +2200 Portland Trail Blazers +7000 It’s funny that they rank LA higher than Rockets, 76ers. They’re probably missing the playoffs even if they do get AD.. It’s all due to public perception
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Post by Coach Sticky on Feb 6, 2019 12:55:22 GMT -5
It’s an Euro thing
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Post by rock on Feb 6, 2019 12:57:26 GMT -5
I hate the move from the Nuggets perspective, giving more chances to LAL to make it with the LAC out of playoffs practically (and btw retaining their pick owed to Boston if they make it to the PO) LAC clearing monster space to try to grab some LA lovers this offseason and getting a bunch of picks is a good move for them, that roster wasn't going places... Philly is getting better for the PO, and it is a win now move, but can't help to think how close to worthless that "process" was. Yes they have 2 allstars from it, but did you really have to tank so hard for so long to come out with two players that don't seem to work too good together, and one still giving you scares every time he falls. Lack of good depth is even more surprising... Agreed, but it shows you how most Gms perceive players as assets and not people. They will make any move if they think it’ll help the team Meanwhile we are scared to trade millsap (the most valuable expiring deal in the league) because of our image. West, Morey, presti etc would trade anyone in a second. Btw I’m not necessarily advocating that we should trade millsap. Just that we once again seem to play the nba game under a different set of rules
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Post by rock on Feb 6, 2019 13:00:01 GMT -5
Vincent Ellis: Don’t think this is happening before Thursday, but heard from several people over last couple days that #Nuggets guard (former #Spartan) Gary Harris can be had. When you look at cap sheet, you understand why he might be available when you see the way Malik Beasley is coming on. Such vagueness from unnamed sources. Means nothing. A few days ago some GM said he would call the Cavs and they would simply mention lebrons name and then they were able to send out anonymous tweets about how teams were “having discussions about lebron” It’s just a bunch of lies.
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Post by rock on Feb 6, 2019 13:01:18 GMT -5
Vincent Ellis: Don’t think this is happening before Thursday, but heard from several people over last couple days that #Nuggets guard (former #Spartan) Gary Harris can be had. When you look at cap sheet, you understand why he might be available when you see the way Malik Beasley is coming on. I'm okay with this if talent is acquired and Gary just isn't given away. Harris is seemingly becoming the injury prone player, TC has a deep roster, and maybe trading him can improve the team. Negative, how much does team chemistry come into play if he's traded away? Locker room culture matters, but how much I don't know. Agreed. Harris is not a salary dump. He should be used as a valuable asset to try and take us to the next level. We are probably one of the few teams that has the ability to trade starting level talent because of depth.
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Feb 6, 2019 13:32:40 GMT -5
I don't think what that Vincent Ellis guy said is anything new TBH.
If we trade Harris for nothing, i'd be vastly disappointed in this FO but as I've said before, it is time to look into the idea of trading him. Injury prone at age 24 is not a good sign.
We may not go after AD but Harris is a player than can be used to garner an AD type player or at least some very serviceable pieces. I doubt we trade him today or on Thursday but unless he finds a way to stay healthy and play consistently, I have no problems trading him and allowing Beasley some more time to shine.
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Post by rock on Feb 6, 2019 13:40:53 GMT -5
Right now seems like the wrong time to trade Harris. Would seem rushed and panicked at a time where we should be trying to build our momentum into the post season
But I can see tc trading Harris for someone like prince (atlanta) and make up some bs justification why it’s a good idea.
This is the time when top teams steal talent from tanking teams for pennies on the dollar. We should be doing that.
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Post by JB on Feb 6, 2019 15:08:54 GMT -5
I'm going full rock mode if the Jazz get Conley.
talk about a perfect fit.
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Post by gallo8 on Feb 6, 2019 15:10:21 GMT -5
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