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Post by TNF on Oct 22, 2024 8:21:01 GMT -5
If I haven't posted this before, check it out. Who's a South Park fan? Who hasn't seen their first movie and also their first musical called "Cannibal the Musical" (about Alferd Packer, infamous Colorado cannibal), made when Trey and Matt were in film school at CU. Here's the whole thing on Youtube for free. youtu.be/wlMIFRXLW8c(We may need some laughs if things don't go our way) |
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Post by pie on Oct 22, 2024 8:29:53 GMT -5
I have to give Republicans credit for one thing. They have CREATED all the "issues" out of whole cloth. Not a single issue is actually an issue. Just another thing pulled straight out of Trump's a****** for the rubes to buy. Fentanyl = Non-issue. Did fundies ever give a s**t about bad heroin? Of course not. Their attitude then: You shoot up or smoke illegal s**t you may very well pay the consequences. That was the reality of the 60s-80s. The Border = Who cares? We need the workers. The stories of murderers and rapists are bullcrap. Inflation? The only real problem and it was easily explainable due to Covid and is now essentially over. The latest one: Kamala isn't saying specifically what she'll do to solve the problems Republicans have made up. PLEASE give me the name of any modern president or candidate who has ever said anything specific. Has Trump? Of course not. George W? I remember watching his press conferences quite clearly. If someone asked him about ANYTHING, he answered with "the terrorists", pronounced with his fake Texas accent. WHO has been more specific in EITHER party? Repubs are now piling on over the issue of no specificity. LOL. Was Ronny Rayguns specific? Was Obama? Why are we letting the Repubs set the agenda? WE should be setting it. The Number One issue should be global warming. Nothing else is a close second. Lol. Thank goodness I am no longer voting Democrat. 1.Over 10 million people (it could be significantly higher) have illegally crossed the U.S.-Mexico border (and who knows along the U.S.-Canada border) since the beginning of the Biden-Harris administration from ALL OVER THE WORLD. Its not only a issue of crime but puts a strain on resources (i.e. housing, jobs, etc). There are homeless people in every major city in America -- why not take care of our citizens first -- instead of people who come here illegally?! The key word is 'illegal'. 2.The Biden-Harris admin are continually giving foreign aide to Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and numerous other countries. When American citizens are struggling to pay for groceries and buy a home -- both due to inflation -- why are the Democrats giving aide to our "allies". The definition of ally is mutual benefit. How has Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan helped the U.S. -- financially or otherwise? Its one-sided to me. 3.The economy is in shambles and that usually determines the winner of the election. Trump will easily win and become the 47th President of the United States.Unless the Democrat party changes drastically, I won't vote for them in 2026 and beyond. I will vote 3rd party. Among Trump and Harris, I've discussed this ad nauseum but Trump is 100x times better than Harris and its a joke, that Kamala is a Presidential candidate. If Jill Stein had a chance to win the Presidency, I would have voted for her. Since she has a 0% chance, Trump 2024! |
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Post by GBG on Oct 22, 2024 8:30:28 GMT -5
TNF, you had me until the last sentence. I agree climate change is a huge issue. But to say nothing else comes close as an issue overlooks one issue that could kill us all.
The threat of WWIII or, at least, a nuke blowing up inside America. This could happen by either the nuclear superpowers going to war with each other in a grave miscalculation or even a false alarm that the other side has shot ICBMs and they are on their way to our shores, or by a terrorist rogue (either a group or a rogue state) getting their hands on a nuke and smuggling into America, or by AI taking over.
Actually, that last part brings up two existential issues I’d rank up there with climate change if not even graver threats. Artificial Intelligence is truly a “genie let out of the bottle”. Study it, and you will realize what great harm as well as great good could come from it. We don’t even know what we don’t know about the effects of it as we are in the first inning of the Age of AI.
The threats of nuclear annihilation and AI are existential, along with the threat of climate change. That’s why we need SERIOUS people leading our country, and global cooperation and coexistence among all nations, especially the superpowers. We also need subject matter experts in government and true public servants at all levels, not loyalists or self-interested greedy liars.
We need people of integrity and dignity running things. How anyone can think Trump and his administration would be that is frankly scary to me, and a shame.
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Post by pie on Oct 22, 2024 8:33:45 GMT -5
The most important reason why I want Trump to win -- to prevent World War 3. Any American man (myself included) could be listed to fight on behalf of war mongers (Dick Cheney, Bush) if Kamala Harris wins.
Men in droves should be voting for Trump for this reason alone
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Post by pie on Oct 22, 2024 8:37:31 GMT -5
As predicted, Kamala is dropping in the polls ...no surprise at all ....she is the worst Presidential candidate in my lifetime
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Post by GBG on Oct 22, 2024 8:52:56 GMT -5
LOL. To those voting for Trump…
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Post by JB on Oct 22, 2024 9:06:03 GMT -5
it was impressive to watch O'Donnell cram so many half-truths, mis-truths and downright untruths in a 8 minute clip , but I'll correct the record on the matter that concerns you the most - Jill Stein and Butch Ware very much criticize Donald Trump. watch their interview on the Breakfast Club, they call Trump a domestic terrorist and a fascist, but make the important point that imperialism is just fascism projected outwards. I would like to see Lawerence O'Donnell from the 90s debate Lawerence O'Donnell from 2024 |
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Post by GBG on Oct 22, 2024 10:17:41 GMT -5
it was impressive to watch O'Donnell cram so many half-truths, mis-truths and downright untruths in a 8 minute clip , but I'll correct the record on the matter that concerns you the most - Jill Stein and Butch Ware very much criticize Donald Trump. watch their interview on the Breakfast Club, they call Trump a domestic terrorist and a fascist, but make the important point that imperialism is just fascism projected outwards. I would like to see Lawerence O'Donnell from the 90s debate Lawerence O'Donnell from 2024 I would like to see Kyle Kulinski of 2020 debate Kyle Kulinski of 2024. IIRC, Kyle is supporting Harris. You, my friend, are living untruths. In fact, your vote for Stein is based on half-truths, mis-truths and untruths. You think Green could be more serious factor if she gets 5% of vote. Earth to JB….Stein will get maybe 1% of the vote. At least Kyle realized that a Stein vote had to be switched to a Clinton vote in 2016 in swing states. Lordy, I hope you don’t live in a swing state. I believe you’re in CO, so go ahead and vote for Stein, I don’t GAF to be honest. Radical people do radical things. Too bad you won’t listen to me or to reason, but maybe listen to this guy… x.com/coachkarl22/status/1848746308720312700?s=61&t=I7wiAME4rgyf_KOpazFe6g |
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Post by GBG on Oct 22, 2024 15:49:40 GMT -5
Elon Musk is truly an evil and sick billionaire. Watch this incredible takedown of him and his phony “free speech” advocacy…
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Post by TNF on Oct 22, 2024 17:41:07 GMT -5
Upon additional thought,Iwould add major reform to greatly reduce income inequality to the real issue list. Trump made the first move with tips being tax free and Kamala copied and added to, but nothing will
Really change until both parties get serious. Taxes must be raised on business, not lowered as Repubs always do.
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Post by pie on Oct 22, 2024 17:54:04 GMT -5
All of Kamala's townhalls and press conferences are scripted
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 22, 2024 18:05:28 GMT -5
Great sources of info from some stupid YouTubers
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Post by jimijam28 on Oct 22, 2024 18:12:22 GMT -5
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Post by GBG on Oct 22, 2024 20:53:32 GMT -5
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Post by pie on Oct 23, 2024 7:53:57 GMT -5
Even Amish people in Pennsylvania and Arab-Americans in Michigan are supporting Trump
Its not too late for GBG, TNF, JimiJam28 and famicommander to switch their support from the worst presidential candidate in American history (Kamala) to a much better one in Trump
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Post by TNF on Oct 23, 2024 9:28:31 GMT -5
Do you really want to support a Nazi wannabe. That's your boy.
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Post by JB on Oct 23, 2024 9:43:59 GMT -5
I rarely obsess over polls but according to 538, Michigan is a statistical tie. it looks like her pivot to the vaunted "low information undecided voter" has reached an electoral deadend and she quite literally needs every single Arab and Muslim in the state to vote for her otherwise it's Trump.
my biggest question to the Kamala campaign is this: why not simply lie that you're going to institute an arms embargo if that lunatic state does not end their bloody rampage? you can simple reassure your donors and representatives of the military-industrial complex in private that you have no intention of following through with that promise. why not just be untruthful so you could "save democracy"?
one can only conclude that demented warmonger Joe Biden has essentially forbidden Kamala from showing any daylight from him on foreign policy. well done Brandon. you're the reason Trump will return to power, not Dr. Jill Stein.
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Post by GBG on Oct 23, 2024 10:18:12 GMT -5
I rarely obsess over polls but according to 538, Michigan is a statistical tie. it looks like her pivot to the vaunted "low information undecided voter" has reached an electoral deadend and she quite literally needs every single Arab and Muslim in the state to vote for her otherwise it's Trump. my biggest question to the Kamala campaign is this: why not simply lie that you're going to institute an arms embargo if that lunatic state does not end their bloody rampage? you can simple reassure your donors and representatives of the military-industrial complex in private that you have no intention of following through with that promise. why not just be untruthful so you could "save democracy"? one can only conclude that demented warmonger Joe Biden has essentially forbidden Kamala from showing any daylight from him on foreign policy. well done Brandon. you're the reason Trump will return to power, not Dr. Jill Stein. What did I tell you about state polls many pages ago, JB? Also, even if they were tied 48-48, studies are showing that the 4-6% undecideds this cycle are going about 65-75% for Harris. IMO, Trump ceiling is reflected in polls, but Harris’s ceiling is not, and is higher. Your one issue that you ramble on about incessantly as if it were the only issue, will not decide the outcome in Michigan or nationwide. BTW, I think Harris wins Michigan by 5 points or so. Maybe too optimistic, but Big Gretch will come through for us! Finally, none of the polls you look at are reflecting the three generals closest to Trump now calling him out for being the Authoritarian and Fascist that he is. That’s as close to an October surprise as we’ve gotten, and no polling numbers reflect it yet. |
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Post by JB on Oct 23, 2024 10:38:26 GMT -5
keep huffing hopium GBG. there's a reason the Democrats are running attack ads on the Greens and sending their proxies in the mainstream media to dedicate hit pieces against Dr. Stein.
just remember, there's a massive and significant age gap between us. I'm more plugged into the zeitgeist more than you are. that "one issue" I "ramble incessantly about" will be more of a deciding factor than you think. that will be apparent to you soon enough.
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Post by GBG on Oct 23, 2024 10:48:21 GMT -5
keep huffing hopium GBG. there's a reason the Democrats are running attack ads on the Greens and sending their proxies in the mainstream media to dedicate hit pieces against Dr. Stein. just remember, there's a massive and significant age gap between us. I'm more plugged into the zeitgeist more than you are. that "one issue" I "ramble incessantly about" will be more of a deciding factor than you think. that will be apparent to you soon enough. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump. JB, why do you assume MI Arab American voters are a block and a monolith? And why do you assume they vote for fascism that makes the plight of Arabs and Palestinians worse? You are basically suggesting Arab Americans are stupid. |
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