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Post by amazing grace & Chuck on May 22, 2009 0:47:15 GMT -5
So many people have been hard on LK in here of late but he honestly hasn't even hardly touched the ball (or gotten any type of minutes) during this year's playoffs. Hopefully, he will get the opportunities and go straight red hot over the next few weeks all the way through the NBA Finals. I really dont think you are actually watching these games. I'm not trying to be mean but theres no other explanation, prior to this game what moments have you seen from LK in the last two series that made you think he actually needed more time and touches? He's been a mess on both ends of the court except for tonight, I dont know how he needed more touches, he just took advantage of them early tonight so got more time which is how it should be. If he's going to be giving up easy baskets and not moving the ball well he shouldnt be playing much.
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Post by DHNF on May 22, 2009 0:49:34 GMT -5
Yeah let's not get ahead of anything. All the Nuggets did in the final accounting was take homecourt and return the favor of a semi stolen game. The first is the most important aspect, but I don't think we've shaken even this fragile psyche. Not with the fallback of being a good road team, Kobe, Phil, and all that crap. Win at home makes that well known scuff into a tiny crack. We haven't done s**t yet. But here is where my confidence has always lied. We are mentally strong enough to force any team we play to BEAT us. The Lakers have yet to beat a team in the playoffs the last 2 years (they have all laid down-- and the Rockets were simply too overmatched). Kobe is great enough to will his team to wins on the road late. And Fisher is likely to bounce back and hit some bigones. But if we stay on the gas peddle, I am very confident we make it to the finals. Good post. Can't get too excited yet but it was a great win. It'll be a very tough series but I think the Nugs are just a much better and deeper team than the Lakers. If Melo can keep this up on both ends of the floor, the Nugs will go to the Finals.
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Post by rubaiyat on May 22, 2009 0:49:35 GMT -5
So many people have been hard on LK in here of late but he honestly hasn't even hardly touched the ball (or gotten any type of minutes) during this year's playoffs. Hopefully, he will get the opportunities and go straight red hot over the next few weeks all the way through the NBA Finals. LK deserved the heat. Let's not go all revisionist by thinking Karl of all people was being a big meany for not putting LK in for big minutes and running offense for him. That said, welcome back useful LK. He really got it going for us as a spot up threat and rebounder. I hope to see this kind of success with him in some small ball situations.
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Post by ruru on May 22, 2009 0:51:08 GMT -5
WHo gives a f**k about an LK debate tonight? We are trying to win an NBA championship and LK saved the day tonight.
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Post by zeeman on May 22, 2009 0:51:42 GMT -5
LK finally getting a few touches and minutes tonight... what was that near the end of the half where the announcers were talking about Melo and it sounded like they said he asked for LK to come in? I just came in from a work function and didn't get to hear it all. LK was Awesome, I know you get s**t for being a LK fan, but LK was the difference in Game #2 PROPS to LK!
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Post by jarobber on May 22, 2009 0:55:02 GMT -5
LK was huge, the key to the game was Melo guarding Kobe in the 2nd, which allowed Karl to put LK back in the game. Good Job Nuggets. I am so sick of everyone at ESPN talking about the great Lakers. Melo has been the best player on the court so far, and Jeff Van Gundy can go suck Koby's cock, since he loves him so much.
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Post by rubaiyat on May 22, 2009 0:55:17 GMT -5
Yeah let's not get ahead of anything. All the Nuggets did in the final accounting was take homecourt and return the favor of a semi stolen game. The first is the most important aspect, but I don't think we've shaken even this fragile psyche. Not with the fallback of being a good road team, Kobe, Phil, and all that crap. Win at home makes that well known scuff into a tiny crack. We haven't done s**t yet. But here is where my confidence has always lied. We are mentally strong enough to force any team we play to BEAT us. The Lakers have yet to beat a team in the playoffs the last 2 years (they have all laid down-- and the Rockets were simply too overmatched). Kobe is great enough to will his team to wins on the road late. And Fisher is likely to bounce back and hit some bigones. But if we stay on the gas peddle, I am very confident we make it to the finals. Fish may bounce back, but I think he's old. I think the days he's a consistent contributor even as a role player are behind him. The PG position is one in our favor. Amazingly (at least going by national coverage) the wings have pretty much canceled out...and the bigs have held their ground (somewhat less in this game) in matching LA's second weapon, their stable of bigs. We just limit the massive dropoff from CB to AC and keep GK in check and we might do this. Fortunately it looks like Phil just doesn't care too much anymore. Though I think I'd still take Phil's corpse to GK when he's flustered.
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Post by voodoo on May 22, 2009 0:56:44 GMT -5
WHo gives a f**k about an LK debate tonight? We are trying to win an NBA championship and LK saved the day tonight. He played a big part in Denver winning this game, and hopefully he got his confidence back.
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Post by rubaiyat on May 22, 2009 0:57:51 GMT -5
LK was huge, the key to the game was Melo guarding Kobe in the 2nd, which allowed Karl to put LK back in the game. Good Job Nuggets. I am so sick of everyone at ESPN talking about the great Lakers. Melo has been the best player on the court so far, and Jeff Van Gundy can go suck Koby's cock, since he loves him so much. I've gone with Bill Simmons on his take of things. Melo is playing the best on the court, the Nuggets are more talented, and more physical, but we have an Achilles in boneheadedness that might doom us. If we can limit stupid, we can win this, and I don't think there was a time this year before the end of the Mavs series that I would have seriously considered a Finals run.
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Post by Rycka on May 22, 2009 1:00:27 GMT -5
Glad to see LK doing what he should and Nuggets getting revenge for all these first round exits.
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Post by amazing grace & Chuck on May 22, 2009 1:00:38 GMT -5
amazing how similar the first two games in opposite ways. First game we were the better team most the game and ended up losing. This game LA was the better and lost. Kobe outscored Melo by a couple but needed a lot more shots to do it, today it was Melo's turn. Kobe closed out that game, tonight our closers took care of business.
Both coaches made some weird decisions tonight, Phil leaving Ariza out when he was killing it (anyone think he'd make a good starting SG for us next year? We'd be huge and he's what we were missing). GK pulling out the guys who were getting it done, its like he sets his rotations at beginning of game and refuses to alter. Neither coaches decision seemed to blow it for them, but both would have won if they probably managed subs differently.
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Post by ruru on May 22, 2009 1:02:50 GMT -5
We haven't done s**t yet. But here is where my confidence has always lied. We are mentally strong enough to force any team we play to BEAT us. The Lakers have yet to beat a team in the playoffs the last 2 years (they have all laid down-- and the Rockets were simply too overmatched). Kobe is great enough to will his team to wins on the road late. And Fisher is likely to bounce back and hit some bigones. But if we stay on the gas peddle, I am very confident we make it to the finals. Fish may bounce back, but I think he's old. I think the days he's a consistent contributor even as a role player are behind him. The PG position is one in our favor. Amazingly (at least going by national coverage) the wings have pretty much canceled out...and the bigs have held their ground (somewhat less in this game) in matching LA's second weapon, their stable of bigs. We just limit the massive dropoff from CB to AC and keep GK in check and we might do this. Fortunately it looks like Phil just doesn't care too much anymore. Though I think I'd still take Phil's corpse to GK when he's flustered. Frankly, I just have a hard time seeing the Lakers bieng able to handle the kind of massive energy bursts we will throw at them at home, particularly if our shooting is halfway decent. We shall see. But, when you consider that we slept through the first 18 minutes of the game, had poor shooting games from Melo, Chauncey and JR-- and got nothing from Nene-- and survived another efficient Kobe game--I mean f**k.. There is no way we should be able to beat that team (on paper).
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Post by lever2english on May 22, 2009 1:04:04 GMT -5
WHo gives a f**k about an LK debate tonight? We are trying to win an NBA championship and LK saved the day tonight. He played a big part in Denver winning this game, and hopefully he got his confidence back. Hopefully LK continues to play well and it translates to less minutes for AC. I hate seeing AC with two of either Kmart, Nene, or Andersen on floor because it lets the Lakers bigs pack it in the paint knowing 3 out 5 Nugs aren't perimeter threats.
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Post by killamike on May 22, 2009 1:04:22 GMT -5
I only have this to add:
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Post by ruru on May 22, 2009 1:06:46 GMT -5
LK was huge, the key to the game was Melo guarding Kobe in the 2nd, which allowed Karl to put LK back in the game. Good Job Nuggets. I am so sick of everyone at ESPN talking about the great Lakers. Melo has been the best player on the court so far, and Jeff Van Gundy can go suck Koby's cock, since he loves him so much. I've gone with Bill Simmons on his take of things. Melo is playing the best on the court, the Nuggets are more talented, and more physical, but we have an Achilles in boneheadedness that might doom us. If we can limit stupid, we can win this, and I don't think there was a time this year before the end of the Mavs series that I would have seriously considered a Finals run. If you consider desire, and playing together and playing smart in terms of knowing when to do certain things as talent-- yes we are a more talented team. But pure talent-- no way. But that's the thing. We are a cohesive team becuase we have to be. There are certain roles each player has every game-- that is cohesiveness. The Lakers don't have that. They win becuase they have A LOT more talent than anyone else-- but they aren't cohesive-- they aren't mentally sound becuase they HAVE too many players without SET ROLES.
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Post by spriteftw3 on May 22, 2009 1:23:46 GMT -5
tsk tsk tsk wheres the laker trolls gone, although its great for the split but we should be up 2-0.
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Post by voodoo on May 22, 2009 1:28:07 GMT -5
amazing how similar the first two games in opposite ways. First game we were the better team most the game and ended up losing. This game LA was the better and lost. Kobe outscored Melo by a couple but needed a lot more shots to do it, today it was Melo's turn. Kobe closed out that game, tonight our closers took care of business. Both coaches made some weird decisions tonight, Phil leaving Ariza out when he was killing it (anyone think he'd make a good starting SG for us next year? We'd be huge and he's what we were missing). GK pulling out the guys who were getting it done, its like he sets his rotations at beginning of game and refuses to alter. Neither coaches decision seemed to blow it for them, but both would have won if they probably managed subs differently. Ariza made the play to win game 1 and made the play that ultimately lost game 2.
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Post by The Carterminator on May 22, 2009 1:29:09 GMT -5
tsk tsk tsk wheres the laker trolls gone, although its great for the split but we should be up 2-0. LMAO! Now that you mention it, where are they indeed. Especially that "bustard" guy lol!
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Post by spriteftw3 on May 22, 2009 1:31:12 GMT -5
tsk tsk tsk wheres the laker trolls gone, although its great for the split but we should be up 2-0. LMAO! Now that you mention it, where are they indeed. Especially that "bustard" guy lol! Must be enjoying his bustard to much imo.
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Post by amazing grace & Chuck on May 22, 2009 1:34:05 GMT -5
amazing how similar the first two games in opposite ways. First game we were the better team most the game and ended up losing. This game LA was the better and lost. Kobe outscored Melo by a couple but needed a lot more shots to do it, today it was Melo's turn. Kobe closed out that game, tonight our closers took care of business. Both coaches made some weird decisions tonight, Phil leaving Ariza out when he was killing it (anyone think he'd make a good starting SG for us next year? We'd be huge and he's what we were missing). GK pulling out the guys who were getting it done, its like he sets his rotations at beginning of game and refuses to alter. Neither coaches decision seemed to blow it for them, but both would have won if they probably managed subs differently. Ariza made the play to win game 1 and made the play that ultimately lost game 2. ariza was great overall tonight. He is a tough defender, incredibly athletic and can knock down the open 3. He's a free agent playing for a team with big money issues. I know he's tall and a SF but with JR off the bench how would he not make us a lot better than DJ starting?? I bet he could be had and I bet it would make a good difference for us.
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