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Post by dbronx42 on Feb 21, 2011 18:52:01 GMT -5
Who is going to be our #1 scorer? JR Smith...? God help us all.
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Feb 21, 2011 18:57:26 GMT -5
#1 option? For now Nene. As far as who actually scores the most ppg...who knows. It'll likely be a nice balance between Nene/Lawson/Gallinari/Afflalo/Smith
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Feb 21, 2011 19:01:02 GMT -5
According to Ric Bucher, since Stan Kronke was painted in a bad light at Melo's wedding, Stan is in NO hurry to do Melo any favors by trading him to the Knicks.
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by etirevned on Feb 21, 2011 19:02:08 GMT -5
CLN - exactly. that's why they shouldn't be in a hurry to trade Nene.
and I still don't understand the Gallo love in here. he's fragile and limited. I would rather not get him at all or trade him for a pick and let Forbes play the 3 spot until we can fill in with something better. or just shuffle the rotation a bit, play small with JR at the 3 or something.
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Post by DENVER on Feb 21, 2011 19:10:55 GMT -5
then trade Chandler or Felton for that pick. Keep Moz and Gallo But, why the hell would they do that? I guess they may for Felton+Chandler? I really don't think we're going to get much for Chandler though, everyone knows he doesn't want to be here. It's not like the Nets need him for the stretch run this year. chandler may not want to move to denver but nj is a lot closer and will soon be right next door to where he probably lives right now... he could be very valuable to them and they may really want to extend/sign him to a longer deal. mozgov is obvious. those are the two i would move to nj if the ny deal goes through. is felton good enough to get batum from protland? keep gallo in my opinion. if we could turn the ny deal into melo and cb for gallo, batum, 2 firsts, and brewer that would be good. i'd still rather do the melo and cb for harris, favors, and 4 firsts deal with nj. imo the ny deal really depends on what we can turn felton into.
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Post by voodoo on Feb 21, 2011 19:14:22 GMT -5
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Post by blackhill on Feb 21, 2011 19:16:08 GMT -5
So if the "Knicks for picks" deal goes through, we would get 2-3 first rounds picks, Chandler, Brewer and Felton for Melo and Billups?
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Post by Tymes Rhymes on Feb 21, 2011 19:16:41 GMT -5
DAG GUMMIT
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Post by itsnoteason on Feb 21, 2011 19:27:24 GMT -5
I don't think you should put much stock in that. I mean, the Nets know there is a good chance that they don't get Melo, so I'm sure they are already working on other trade-deadline deals in case Melo goes to the Knicks...like inquiring about Andre Miller. If the Melo thing goes down to the wire, there won't be much time to pull off other deals, so I'm sure plenty of teams are working on stuff...
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Post by Dunkman on Feb 21, 2011 19:35:25 GMT -5
So their unnamed source in the Blazers FO, who spoke to the Nets, who have details about what the Knicks and Nuggets are doing, says the trade is done. I'm just saying....
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Feb 21, 2011 19:38:06 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if Melo played on Tuesday too...trade or not. Doesn't make me a source.
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Post by voodoo on Feb 21, 2011 19:43:06 GMT -5
So their unnamed source in the Blazers FO, who spoke to the Nets, who have details about what the Knicks and Nuggets are doing, says the trade is done. I'm just saying.... If Harris who was in the Nuggets deal gets traded for Miller wouldn't Portland know about it? I am sure it is likely a backup plan for the Nets.
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Post by dajet on Feb 21, 2011 19:43:53 GMT -5
Damn. I just figured out how the Nuggets can possibly trade Mozgov and Gallo to the Nets. And it involves an aspect of the Knicks trade that I had not yet considered: a HUGE trade exception for Chauncy Billups. ESPN only mentions this by reference in its article, but here is how (I think) the entire Nuggets trade saga would play out for salary cap purposes, assuming that New York agrees to part with Mozgov and that New Jersey uses picks to get some of the Knicks players acquired). WARNING: THIS IS PRETTY COMPLICATED.
Trade #1: Three-way trade (DEN/NYK/MIN) Denver gets: Raymond Felton, Timofey Mozgov, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, 2014 NYK 1st rd. pick and Corey Brewer New York gets: Carmelo Anthony, Renaldo Balkman and Shelden Williams Minnesota gets: Nothing (yet). Maybe a nominal (top-55 protected) pick.
Trade #2: Billups to Minnesota Minnesota gets: Chauncey Billups Denver gets: A ~$13.2M trade exception
Trade #3: Minnesota gets its "stuff" New York gets: Chauncey Billups (who CAN be immediately re-traded by himself) Minnesota gets: Anthony Randolph, Eddy Curry and cash
Trade #4: How New Jersey can get the Knicks Denver gets: Troy Murphy (and cash?) (using the new Billups TPE) New Jersey gets: A ~$11.9M trade exception
Trade #5: Mozgov goes to New Jersey New Jersey gets: Timofey Mozgov (using portion of new Murphy TPE) Denver gets: A ~$3.6M trade exception (= Mozgov's salary) and a first rounder
Trade #6: Gallo goes to New Jersey New Jersey gets: Danilo Gallinari (using portion of new Murphy TPE) Denver gets: A ~$3.3M trade exception (= Gallo's salary) and a first rounder
In the end, Denver gets Felton, Chandler, Brewer, Murphy, 3 first rounders, a ~$1.3M TPE (remainder of Billups TPE), a ~$3.6M TPE (Mozgov) and a ~$3.3M TPE (Gallinari).
Confusing enough for you???
Oh, yeah. I could be wrong about all this.
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Post by blackhill on Feb 21, 2011 19:55:37 GMT -5
Your idea won't work. I've read today about using a TPE created by trading Chauncey, but the Wolves need to include Brewer as part of that transaction as well - Billups makes a little more than Wolves are under the cap.
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Post by etirevned on Feb 21, 2011 20:09:44 GMT -5
and Houston gets.....
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Post by dajet on Feb 21, 2011 20:13:16 GMT -5
Nothing, nada! I have insider info that we will trade for Gerald Wallace when the Melo deal completes.
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Post by nicktheqwik on Feb 21, 2011 20:17:39 GMT -5
Nothing, nada! I have insider info that we will trade for Gerald Wallace when the Melo deal completes. Scrooge?
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Post by voodoo on Feb 21, 2011 20:45:23 GMT -5
Watch Melo break the news on Conan tonight
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Feb 21, 2011 20:46:36 GMT -5
That would be awesome. I know cam would love it.
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Post by etirevned on Feb 21, 2011 20:51:04 GMT -5
I could just imagine Conan throwing together an impromptu "The Decision" skit...
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