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Post by CSeyoum on Dec 26, 2009 1:43:18 GMT -5
the constant yearning to prove oneself to an person online which you will never meet seems quite perplexing to me.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Dec 26, 2009 1:43:39 GMT -5
Wait until April to start applauding your intended foresight, the kid will come out of this slump and get better as the season goes along...I have no doubt he will start raining threes soon. The guy is trash. His defense isn't great and he doesn't do anything to get under the opponents skin. His one 3 point shot a game isn't much help either. Let the research begin! First game of the year: AA were the only one playing D on Deron, ask Troy he remembers it. Roy: 6-16 Brandon Rush: 4-12 Courtney Lee: 2-11 Wade: 6-17 Salmons: 3-13 Kobe: 7-17 (1-8 when AA guarded him) Salmons: 2-11 CDR: 1-6 Curry: 4-14 Wade: 8-20 Ginobili: 3-9 Richardson: 3-8 Westbrook: 5-15 Devin Brown: 3-10 Mayo: 5-19 JJ: 5-12 He's had a bunch of 50% games, and have been lit up a couple times as well
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Post by deternice on Dec 26, 2009 1:43:54 GMT -5
The guy usually comes in around the 5 or 5 minute mark. Also, I don't like him on the floor with Melo and Billups. I have rarely seen him in at the 5 minute mark, but anyways its a marginal difference. I just think that bringing him in early for one allows him to maintain his flow from pregame. And i have seen JR usually have good games if his jumper starts falling early, you rarely see JR explode in the second half after having a terrible first half...My point is simple give JR a chance to get going early off open threes (which he has a higher probability to make coming in early). Wow you're right. Just looking at a few play by plays, he does come in around the 3 and 4 minute mark. I always thought it was much earlier though. But I just don't like JR on the floor with Melo. JR is to ball dominant and his stupidity is at an all time high more times than not. I think just letting him be the #1 option in the 2nd qtr when Melo is out, is the best situation for him.
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Post by NightHiker on Dec 26, 2009 1:44:28 GMT -5
His little theory about how we're just cruising and basically losing games on purpose has to be the dumbest thing ever. word for word, that is exactly what i have been saying.To be fair, this is what you said, answering my post: You:
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Post by deternice on Dec 26, 2009 1:45:50 GMT -5
The guy is trash. His defense isn't great and he doesn't do anything to get under the opponents skin. His one 3 point shot a game isn't much help either. Let the research begin! First game of the year: AA were the only one playing D on Deron, ask Troy he remembers it. Roy: 6-16 Brandon Rush: 4-12 Courtney Lee: 2-11 Wade: 6-17 Salmons: 3-13 Kobe: 7-17 (1-8 when AA guarded him) Salmons: 2-11 CDR: 1-6 Curry: 4-14 Ginobili: 3-9 Richardson: 3-8 Westbrook: 5-15 Devin Brown: 3-10 Mayo: 5-19 JJ: 5-12 He's had a bunch of 50% games, and have been lit up a couple times as well Wade: 8-20 So you pointed out a bunch of games, where there is absolutely no proof of who is guarding who? Forgetting the fact that we do a lot of switching. Great job man. Nighthiker, he had more laughable quotes than that one on this same subject. He's a joke. That's why I rarely respond to him.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Dec 26, 2009 1:46:14 GMT -5
did JR play very "stupid" this game? he just wasn't hitting some mid-range shots. And he had to take em with CB out. JR Smith played 29 minutes, took 23 shots, and took 0 freethrows. Nene didn't ask for the ball. Billups didn't play the 2nd halv. He had to take shots. And there wasn't many stupid shots
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Post by nuggetshipster on Dec 26, 2009 1:47:50 GMT -5
So you pointed out a bunch of games, where there is absolutely no proof of who is guarding who? Forgetting the fact that we do a lot of switching. Great job man. If you don't like stats, watch some games.. Watch this game again an only look at AA's D... He is a very good defender.
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Post by deternice on Dec 26, 2009 1:48:21 GMT -5
JR Smith played 29 minutes, took 23 shots, and took 0 freethrows. Nene didn't ask for the ball. Billups didn't play the 2nd halv. He had to take shots. And there wasn't many stupid shots There is no reason for a guy to take 23 shots in 29 minutes when he's not hitting. Sorry, no excuse at all, especially when you're playing with the best scorer in the game.
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Post by NightHiker on Dec 26, 2009 1:48:52 GMT -5
what did u own? all i asked for was a compromise. i thought it was pretty friendly. The owning was on the lack of context for your behavior. Now, again, I don't care if you diss people or not - honestly, I think it looks bad on you calling people morons for their opinions, considering no one is right all the time and that is bound to come back to you, but that's your choice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2009 1:49:28 GMT -5
word for word, that is exactly what i have been saying. To be fair, this is what you said, answering my post: You: where EVER have i said we have been losing games on purpose? our focus, intensity, and killer instinct can NOT be there for 82+playoff games. its impossible. u agreed. now u are HONESTLY trying to make it seem like we are tanking and "purposely" losing games vs weaker opponents? u agreed to that post btw. ur being unfair man.
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Post by deternice on Dec 26, 2009 1:50:59 GMT -5
So you pointed out a bunch of games, where there is absolutely no proof of who is guarding who? Forgetting the fact that we do a lot of switching. Great job man. If you don't like stats, watch some games.. Watch this game again an only look at AA's D... He is a very good defender. I've watched every Nuggets game this season. If I don't watch it live, I usually have it DVR'd. The guy doesn't have much of an impact on defense. He's a solid defender, but he isn't a shutdown defender by any means, and he very rarely has an impact on that end. He did play great defense on Kobe and had a impact in that game, but he's not having an impact in most games.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2009 1:52:19 GMT -5
what did u own? all i asked for was a compromise. i thought it was pretty friendly. The owning was on the lack of context for your behavior. Now, again, I don't care if you diss people or not - honestly, I think it looks bad on you calling people morons for their opinions, considering no one is right all the time and that is bound to come back to you, but that's your choice. i figured u wouldnt shut up about nene for an entire week without getting something from me. sorry i brought up what was an attempt at a friendly lil thing. yikes.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Dec 26, 2009 1:52:27 GMT -5
Nene didn't ask for the ball. Billups didn't play the 2nd halv. He had to take shots. And there wasn't many stupid shots There is no reason for a guy to take 23 shots in 29 minutes when he's not hitting. Sorry, no excuse at all, especially when you're playing with the best scorer in the game. Melo took 28 shots... how many should he have taken?
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Post by deternice on Dec 26, 2009 1:52:31 GMT -5
To be fair, this is what you said, answering my post: You: where EVER have i said we have been losing games on purpose? our focus, intensity, and killer instinct can NOT be there for 82+playoff games. its impossible. u agreed. now u are HONESTLY trying to make it seem like we are tanking and "purposely" losing games vs weaker opponents? u agreed to that post btw. ur being unfair man. Obviously it was an exaggeration. Why do you play stupid?
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Post by deternice on Dec 26, 2009 1:53:04 GMT -5
There is no reason for a guy to take 23 shots in 29 minutes when he's not hitting. Sorry, no excuse at all, especially when you're playing with the best scorer in the game. Melo took 28 shots... how many should he have taken? Melo took 23 shots. He should've taken 28.
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Post by nuggetshipster on Dec 26, 2009 1:53:39 GMT -5
I've watched every Nuggets game this season. If I don't watch it live, I usually have it DVR'd. The guy doesn't have much of an impact on defense. He's a solid defender, but he isn't a shutdown defender by any means, and he very rarely has an impact on that end. He did play great defense on Kobe and had a impact in that game, but he's not having an impact in most games. How many players in the league shut down players more often? Name them!
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Post by nuggetshipster on Dec 26, 2009 1:54:22 GMT -5
Melo took 28 shots... how many should he have taken? Melo took 23 shots. He should've taken 28. But 10fts = 5 shots IMO 32 shots, is a little to much for one player. Roy took 29 in 4 more minutes
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Post by NightHiker on Dec 26, 2009 1:54:25 GMT -5
u agreed to that post btw. ur being unfair man. I quoted the whole post to not be unfair. I was not confirming or denying what Deternice said - just what I said. That your theory is that this team can turn it on any time they really want it, and that they decide to cruise through some games because they can't play hard every one of them. I did agree, albeit with reservation, but that was before this very bad stretch at the road against theoreticaly lesser competition overal, but a couple of hard playing teams that should have elicited that "fire" you speak of.
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Post by deternice on Dec 26, 2009 1:58:19 GMT -5
Melo took 23 shots. He should've taken 28. But 10fts = 5 shots IMO 32 shots, is a little to much for one player. Roy took 29 in 4 more minutes Roy had 41 and was hitting shots. Why do you keep playing stupid? at using fta to show how many shots Melo took. Don't forget Melo was actually hitting at a high clip, so yes, he should've taken more shots instead of JR.
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Post by deternice on Dec 26, 2009 1:59:32 GMT -5
I've watched every Nuggets game this season. If I don't watch it live, I usually have it DVR'd. The guy doesn't have much of an impact on defense. He's a solid defender, but he isn't a shutdown defender by any means, and he very rarely has an impact on that end. He did play great defense on Kobe and had a impact in that game, but he's not having an impact in most games. How many players in the league shut down players more often? Name them! He doesn't have an impact on defense. Why are you debating this?
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