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Post by callmeking on May 23, 2009 23:14:34 GMT -5
If Billups stop taking momentum killer shots (that kill us) shots then we'd win. Despite Carmelo poor shooting, he was the only one taking good shots. Billups is just an overrated point guard whose leadership is vastly overrated. f***ing PIECE OF s**t! So who would you rather have? Allen Iverson right? Geezzz... all the shots he took were momentum shots, if he knocked them down, it'd give us huge boost. He missed them tonight... get your grip! We wouldn't be where we are without Billups and everybody. He's part of our team. We win and lose together. It doesn't matter if it can give us a huge boost. A smart f***ing play can do the same thing. I've said it all season, his decision making/shot selection is very poor.
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Post by thecookiecrumbles on May 23, 2009 23:16:44 GMT -5
So who would you rather have? Allen Iverson right? Geezzz... all the shots he took were momentum shots, if he knocked them down, it'd give us huge boost. He missed them tonight... get your grip! We wouldn't be where we are without Billups and everybody. He's part of our team. We win and lose together. It doesn't matter if it can give us a huge boost. A smart f***ing play can do the same thing. I've said it all season, his decision making/shot selection is very poor. i cant knock billups for what hes done but down 4 with like 17 seconds why the f**k do you shoot a long contested 3 like that.
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Post by The Carterminator on May 23, 2009 23:18:22 GMT -5
Seriously, how many games will we lose due to stupid inbound passes? Doesn't Karl have ready and available plays for these kinds of situations? Don't they even practice some sort of play for inbounding the ball effectively and successfully? Especially after that oh-so-very-recent inbound blunder in Game 1? We practically handed them the win AGAIN (just like in Game 1) with that turnover. Sheesh! Pathetic, that's just simply pathetic. I'd rather take a Lebron buzzer-beater type of loss every game than this type of s**t.
And lastly, WTF Billups?!? You tried so hard to be the f***ing man in this game and it ended up costing and hurting us alot more than doing good. And I freaking thought you were a Point Guard. What you did was exactly what I was hoping and expecting Kobe to do - which was to try and be all Mr. Big Shot and hurt his team more instead and exhaust himself also in the process. f**k you.
Stupidity was everywhere in this game. It truly is the Rise of the Morons.
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Post by Redemption on May 23, 2009 23:19:56 GMT -5
How hard is it to throw in a inbound pass, comeon now. You can throw in the backcourt for f**k sake, we had 38 seconds left not f**k 5. This team is so dumb at times and if they don't stop and learn from all these mistakes then there not gonna get any farther.
Melo played a great first half and then started to play dumb and falled in love witht he 3, that's not your not shot man, drive it in. Billups had come up so small in this serie, he needs to stop with that pullup dagger three in transition.
Im starting to doubt whether jr is even going to have one decent shooting game in this series, he's atrocious from behind the arc like melo and chauncey and yet they still launch it all game.
2 bad inbound pass= two loss, after a tough loss in game 1 nugs bounced back to take game 2, can they do it again?, i think yes.
My bet is were going to win game 4 and Series going to be tied 2-2 heading back to la.
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Post by callmeking on May 23, 2009 23:28:11 GMT -5
I don't give a f**k if Carmelo is 0-858. You live and die with him being the first option. Not the f***ing pg who does nothing but take 3s from way beyond the arc. I can't stand his ass. No, I don't prefer A.I., but at least the guy went to the hole. This guy just take 3s for no f***ing reason.
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Post by cuseheart on May 23, 2009 23:35:11 GMT -5
I agree. If Melo is "the guy" for the Nuggs, then you have to live or die with him. The Lakers gave the ball to Kobe, to win it or lose it. I have faith Melo can now close the deal, but not w/ CB & JR always throwing up wild shots. The refs took away Melo's rhythm but the Nuggs compounded it. Give the ball to Melo, & get outta his way.
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Post by corona on May 23, 2009 23:42:12 GMT -5
that was frustrating.
my voice is completely gone.
i tried my best to help.
it'd suck if a series loss comes down to the inability to get the ball inbounds.
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Post by ru on May 23, 2009 23:42:40 GMT -5
Their "big two" were much better than our big two tonight. We are not beating the Lakers with both CB and Melo having sub par games.
Kmart shooting anything other than a dunk in last minute is a bad sign.
Nice games from DJ and Birdman
What did AC do to earn 15 minutes?
Gasol is much better than Nene...just a fact.
Season on the brink on Monday.
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Post by ru on May 23, 2009 23:43:51 GMT -5
How many times did CB launch a bomb without anyone else having a touch?
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Post by bigshotbillups on May 23, 2009 23:44:39 GMT -5
...Offense: Fell in love with the 3 ball - Billups in particular;... Really? Melo was 1/7 from 3, Chauncey was equally bad at 2/7 from three.
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Post by callmeking on May 23, 2009 23:47:46 GMT -5
How many times did CB launch a bomb without anyone else having a touch? There isn't enough time in our lifetime to count.
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Post by spursfan on May 23, 2009 23:53:16 GMT -5
WHAT THE f**k HAPPEND!!!! ?? I missed the game, was out with the Family but, got online to check the score & WTF!!!! The way Denver played in LA, I thought they'd go up 3-1!!! WTF!
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Post by finalfantasynugz on May 24, 2009 0:07:15 GMT -5
The way we played with so little energy, it seems like we played without a sense of purpose... we just forced ourselves to play hard but we forgot what we're playing for. This loss could be a blessing in disguise... it would really hit the players hard... the Lakers played so bad from tip off to early fourth quarter, just unLaker basketball like, any playoffs team, or any Conference Finals team should have beat the living crap out of them but we didn't because largely in part we were damn sloppy too. And we were too sloppy in fact that no players fought to get out of that sloppiness, and Lakers sensed this and they struck.
Maybe going back to LA is a good thing because when the crowd and everybody is against you, it "wakes" you up. Can't afford not to play smart, can't afford to play without intensity and sense of purpose.
2-2 going back to LA or bust.
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Post by anon on May 24, 2009 0:21:15 GMT -5
Random rants:
On Chauncey's 3's in transition: I used to hate them but I now don't really have a problem with them because he often takes them when he is way ahead of the rest of our team and so if he misses, we're already back on defense. And despite tonight, it is actually a fairly high percentage shot for him, when he is in rhythm. We just had a horrible 3-point shooting night in general.
Karl needs to stop with this idea of "Kobe-stopper AC". And how can you take two timeouts and still lose the ball on the inbounds!? We had plenty of time.
Many of the three point shots were decent looks. We just could not knock them down. It's funny how it seems so much of our good ball movement tonight ended up in decent 3-point looks... how about some ball movement to get a good shot inside? Or more post offense?
Melo needs to move down low more and stop dribbling so much in traffic. He seems to dribble into traffic and either get stripped or plays a bit out of control.
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Post by nokillnobeat on May 24, 2009 0:22:23 GMT -5
Dear Nugget fans,
I am truly sorry about loss tonight.
My sincerest apologies,
Kobe Bryant
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Post by anon on May 24, 2009 0:25:14 GMT -5
Also about "playing hard without purpose" -- I kind of agree. I feel like this team has energy and more heart than we've seen in a while but this potential is misdirected. That's on the coaching. I know we're not a high BB IQ team but GK needs to give them more direction.
With all his lethal basketball knowledge, how come all you ever hear from GK in timeouts is "Just keeping playing hard and play defense." or "Play good basketball." How about some context specific advice here and there?!
Also agree that Billups is not the best when he feels like the team needs him to be a scoring option. He presses. Can't say I'm a huge fan of all his shot attempts today, but we didn't have much going. Nobody could buy a basket.
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Post by callmeking on May 24, 2009 0:33:10 GMT -5
Karl loss this too. Are you guys sleeping under a rock? Its his fault for having dumb players? Its his fault the team settle for jumpers? Stfu with the Karl hate
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Post by Cheese on May 24, 2009 0:40:16 GMT -5
Karl loss this too. Are you guys sleeping under a rock? Its his fault for having dumb players? Its his fault the team settle for jumpers? Stfu with the Karl hate The team was definitely struggling, that's when a coach is needed to do his job. Karl didn't. What line up worked great and brought the Nuggets back in game 2? LK, Melo, Nene, JR, and Billups. I don't think we even saw it tonight. LK had a "break out" game. He got the least minutes tonight. That's bad coaching. Playing AC 15 minutes. When the team is struggling, AC makes the team struggle worse. He has done nothing but hurt the team in the series. Yes, there are a lot of things to blame for this loss. But if Karl had coached a good game, the odds of the Nuggets losing is much lower. But lets just blame JR instead.
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Post by anon on May 24, 2009 0:49:24 GMT -5
Like it or not, GK doesn't have a stellar rep. as a great in-game coach. I think the primary reason we lost this game is because of horrid shooting and too many threes, even if many of them were good looks. But I just don't feel like Karl has a good feel for the flow of the game. He almost cost us Game 2 when he took Billups and Melo out late in the 3rd, early 4th and blew our lead, just as we were starting to establish some consistency on the court. And then he doesn't really play LK after a solid Game 2, when we were struggling from outside... and LK isn't even in his doghouse and he was rebounding! And we all know what happened in Game 1 -- nothing else needs to be said there.
My problem is that these recent incidents aren't nebulous accusations of coaching incompetence but concrete situations where decisions seem fairly clear or where you would expect coaching to directly lead to putting the team in a better position to succeed, resulting in better execution.
I just don't see how you call two timeouts and still lose the ball. It's ridiculous. I mean, at the very least, attempt a shot before calling it a night! Two timeouts and you still lose the ball before even giving yourself a chance to win? That's garbage.
That being said, it was a horrid pass from KMart. Melo was open, but the pass was a duck.
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Post by callmeking on May 24, 2009 0:49:56 GMT -5
LK played and went 2-6. Had he left him in, you'd be bitching about him being in. The team was horrendous, a coach can't always overcome poor play by his players. I love how gets no credit when we win, but all the blame when we lose. We don't win because of him and we don't lose because of him.
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