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Post by Ring on Nov 15, 2024 21:02:13 GMT -5
If Zeke plays in the 2nd half (he will), I'm just giving up. PJ Hall would be a better option. |
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Post by Dante on Nov 15, 2024 21:02:25 GMT -5
No team wants Ingram but he'd be the 2nd best player on our team by far lol His game sucks. Iso midrange scorer that plays no defense. Jokic would retire Even that type of player was an all star in tough western conference (Something Jamal and MPJ can only dream about) Even that type of player has an ability to demand double team on any given game (Something Jamal and MPJ can only dream about) Even that type of player has an ability to put up a solo show in the half (Something Jamal and MPJ can only dream about without Jokic on the floor) |
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Post by GBG on Nov 15, 2024 21:03:36 GMT -5
Best +/- of the half…Saric +10 in 15 minutes.
Worst +/- of the half…Zeke -15 in 6 minutes.
I’d say Saric is back in regular rotation when Jokic is back, and Zeke is persona non grata.
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Post by Ring on Nov 15, 2024 21:05:28 GMT -5
MPJ has 20/5 at half on 8-12 from the field and 4-5 from 3. He's been very very good this season. He's earning his paycheck so far.
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Post by sawyeral on Nov 15, 2024 21:06:05 GMT -5
Westbrook doing what he does. Live ball turnover leading to points It's getting to the point where Westbrooks minutes have to be tied to Jokic. He just plays way too out of control. Agreed. Unfortunately we can’t play everyone with Jokic all the time. Saric game today gives me some hope. |
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Post by GBG on Nov 15, 2024 21:06:52 GMT -5
His game sucks. Iso midrange scorer that plays no defense. Jokic would retire Even that type of player has an ability to put up a solo show in the half (Something Jamal and MPJ can only dream about without Jokic on the floor) Good grief, are you watching drunk in Italy? MPJ scored 20 in the half. |
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Post by sawyeral on Nov 15, 2024 21:08:53 GMT -5
His game sucks. Iso midrange scorer that plays no defense. Jokic would retire Even that type of player was an all star in tough western conference (Something Jamal and MPJ can only dream about) Even that type of player has an ability to demand double team on any given game (Something Jamal and MPJ can only dream about) Even that type of player has an ability to put up a solo show in the half (Something Jamal and MPJ can only dream about without Jokic on the floor) So Jamal has never ‘put on a solo show’ in a half of basketball? MPJ just scored 20 today in the first half. Ingram is not a winning basketball player. This is the ultimate recency bias |
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Post by famicommander on Nov 15, 2024 21:08:58 GMT -5
Just checking the box score on the Gold game early in the third
Spencer Jones in his debut:
13 points, 4 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks, 3 fouls, 1 turnover, 5/6 FG, 2/3 3PT, 1/1 FT
Pickett:
4 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, 0 blocks, 1 foul, 2 turnovers, 2/9 FG, 0/3 3PT
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Post by Dante on Nov 15, 2024 21:09:27 GMT -5
It's getting to the point where Westbrooks minutes have to be tied to Jokic. He just plays way too out of control. Agreed. Unfortunately we can’t play everyone with Jokic all the time. Saric game today gives me some hope. No hope at all. Because if Saric is playing with Westbrook both of them will suck and our bench will suck. It's like a turtle and a rabbit. If we have a PG like Monte or Jones, then Saric would be a positive with bench. With Westbrook? Lol, hell no. |
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Post by sawyeral on Nov 15, 2024 21:11:21 GMT -5
Agreed. Unfortunately we can’t play everyone with Jokic all the time. Saric game today gives me some hope. No hope at all. Because if Saric is playing with Westbrook both of them will suck and our bench will suck. It's like a turtle and a rabbit. If we have a PG like Monte or Jones, then Saric would be a positive with bench. With Westbrook? Lol, hell no. I’m more hopeful that a saric MPJ Jamal stagger works is what I meant. Which frees up a Westbrook Jokic stagger. |
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Post by Dante on Nov 15, 2024 21:11:53 GMT -5
Even that type of player has an ability to put up a solo show in the half (Something Jamal and MPJ can only dream about without Jokic on the floor) Good grief, are you watching drunk in Italy? MPJ scored 20 in the half. Out of plays and on a hot shooting. I am saying that Jamal and MPJ are not capable of putting a solo show without Jokic like Ingram just did. MPJ 20 and Ingram 20 are not the same. Ingram forced us into zone, into double teaming, something only legit all star caliber players can only do. Jamal and MPJ were never able of making defenses scramble without sharing the floor with Jokic. |
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Post by GBG on Nov 15, 2024 21:12:37 GMT -5
This is the first time this season I say Murray is becoming a legit concern. I’ve been okay with him as he’s a notorious slow starter, but this goes beyond that. His body language lacks fight. He doesn’t move well. This was the game for him to take charge in Jokic’s absence, and he’s fading into the background.
A big second half and W would be helpful. But Murray continuing to act like he’s not got it anymore is starting to irk me. Makes me think he’s hiding an injury, but the main injured body part this time might just be his brain. He was concussed, after all.
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Post by sawyeral on Nov 15, 2024 21:15:35 GMT -5
Funny thing is I don’t see Jamal looking like a different player athletically. He hasn’t shot well and he’s looked weirdly hesitant when he’s in a crowd. I wonder if he’s in his head about rolling his ankle and duesnt want to leave his feet in the paint. Grasping at that straw right now.
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Post by sawyeral on Nov 15, 2024 21:17:27 GMT -5
Good grief, are you watching drunk in Italy? MPJ scored 20 in the half. Out of plays and on a hot shooting. I am saying that Jamal and MPJ are not capable of putting a solo show without Jokic like Ingram just did. MPJ 20 and Ingram 20 are not the same. Ingram forced us into zone, into double teaming, something only legit all star caliber players can only do. Jamal and MPJ were never able of making defenses scramble without sharing the floor with Jokic. Really reaching here. |
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Post by famicommander on Nov 15, 2024 21:18:08 GMT -5
Both defenders are just following Jamal on the pick and roll. Ignoring the screen man whether it's Saric, Watson, or Zeke.
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Post by somborshuffle on Nov 15, 2024 21:20:44 GMT -5
Jamal is clearly cooked but the main issue is that he now has arguably the worst contract in the league and you aren't shifting it.
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Post by famicommander on Nov 15, 2024 21:20:53 GMT -5
Finally, Saric hits a 3
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Post by sawyeral on Nov 15, 2024 21:22:09 GMT -5
Gonna give up 130 to the pelicans missing 6 rotation players. That’s the reason we’re headed for a loss
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Post by Dante on Nov 15, 2024 21:22:11 GMT -5
Out of plays and on a hot shooting. I am saying that Jamal and MPJ are not capable of putting a solo show without Jokic like Ingram just did. MPJ 20 and Ingram 20 are not the same. Ingram forced us into zone, into double teaming, something only legit all star caliber players can only do. Jamal and MPJ were never able of making defenses scramble without sharing the floor with Jokic. Really reaching here. Not at all. Are you watching the game right now or what? MPJ and Jamal look like a glorified role players, system players. Ingram is NOLA entire offense, and his gravity is causing us to scramble on every possession. |
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Post by Ring on Nov 15, 2024 21:23:53 GMT -5
Jamal is clearly cooked but the main issue is that he now has arguably the worst contract in the league and you aren't shifting it. This organization is an embarrassment man. Murray basically got a thank you for what you did for us in the past max contract. Not a single Nuggets fan is shocked that Murray looks like this. |
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