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Post by BBBbbb on Apr 30, 2024 7:38:30 GMT -5
There are a lot of things AG does that Grant would not bring. One thing that Grant would definitely be better at is 3pt shooting, but it would not translate to spacing, since I think the gravity AG brings at the dunker spot is very important for Jokic's game. Also man something I would have never said about Orlando's AG is that he is high BBIQ player, he was just playing too much outside his abilities. |
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Post by sawyeral on Apr 30, 2024 8:05:56 GMT -5
"Murray before Game 4 looked as healthy as ever. People always make excuses for him when he shoots poorly or does dumb s**t." This is your post from earlier today What a clown you are I literally said in both posts you can question his shot making and his decision making, but not his heart. I don't get it lmao? Who ever questions Jamal’s heart?! Like seriously…who in the f**k are you talking about? Rock might have the most intense coping mechanism on this board, but yours is by far the weirdest. |
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Post by Ring on Apr 30, 2024 8:20:29 GMT -5
I literally said in both posts you can question his shot making and his decision making, but not his heart. I don't get it lmao? Who ever questions Jamal’s heart?! Like seriously…who in the f**k are you talking about? Rock might have the most intense coping mechanism on this board, but yours is by far the weirdest. This is how 90% of the posters post on this board in every game thread: Make every single excuse for Jokic when he's not playing at an elite level aka team isn't giving him the ball, teammates are letting him down, he's pacing himself, he'll turn it on late. Tear down Jamal and complain that he is forcing shots, turning the ball over, not giving the ball to Jokic, trying to be the superstar, thinking he's better than Jokic etc. I'm literally the only person on this board who will call out Jokic AND Murray when they're playing poorly. Basically no one calls out Jokic when he plays poorly and it's bullshit. That Lakers series was the worst he's played in a series since the bubble. Don't care what the stats say. |
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Post by nuggetshipster on Apr 30, 2024 8:52:27 GMT -5
I literally said in both posts you can question his shot making and his decision making, but not his heart. I don't get it lmao? Who ever questions Jamal’s heart?! Like seriously…who in the f**k are you talking about? Rock might have the most intense coping mechanism on this board, but yours is by far the weirdest. I know a bunch of posters that thought Murray and Nuggets coasted / played without heart for the first 4 games |
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Post by freakns on Apr 30, 2024 14:57:14 GMT -5
Who ever questions Jamal’s heart?! Like seriously…who in the f**k are you talking about? Rock might have the most intense coping mechanism on this board, but yours is by far the weirdest. This is how 90% of the posters post on this board in every game thread: Make every single excuse for Jokic when he's not playing at an elite level aka team isn't giving him the ball, teammates are letting him down, he's pacing himself, he'll turn it on late. Tear down Jamal and complain that he is forcing shots, turning the ball over, not giving the ball to Jokic, trying to be the superstar, thinking he's better than Jokic etc. I'm literally the only person on this board who will call out Jokic AND Murray when they're playing poorly. Basically no one calls out Jokic when he plays poorly and it's bullshit. That Lakers series was the worst he's played in a series since the bubble. Don't care what the stats say. Jimijam is literally calling out Jokic only few pages ago. there are posters like Lothar who are known for not calling out players, ever. there is rock who also isn't calling out any player in name, he likes calling out Nuggets organization as whole. Im pretty sure he doesn't even know who plays for Nuggets, cause as long as he can predict doomsday, he is happy I also dont call out players often. It happens from time to time, but I can guarantee Jokic is the guy I called out most. etc, etc... so can you please stop projecting yourself as beacon of truth. we know you consider yourself as the only objective fan here, you already told us what you think of yourself more then once, so we get it, no need to repeat it on every thread. |
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Post by Ring on Apr 30, 2024 16:00:34 GMT -5
This is how 90% of the posters post on this board in every game thread: Make every single excuse for Jokic when he's not playing at an elite level aka team isn't giving him the ball, teammates are letting him down, he's pacing himself, he'll turn it on late. Tear down Jamal and complain that he is forcing shots, turning the ball over, not giving the ball to Jokic, trying to be the superstar, thinking he's better than Jokic etc. I'm literally the only person on this board who will call out Jokic AND Murray when they're playing poorly. Basically no one calls out Jokic when he plays poorly and it's bullshit. That Lakers series was the worst he's played in a series since the bubble. Don't care what the stats say. Jimijam is literally calling out Jokic only few pages ago. there are posters like Lothar who are known for not calling out players, ever. there is rock who also isn't calling out any player in name, he likes calling out Nuggets organization as whole. Im pretty sure he doesn't even know who plays for Nuggets, cause as long as he can predict doomsday, he is happy I also dont call out players often. It happens from time to time, but I can guarantee Jokic is the guy I called out most. etc, etc... so can you please stop projecting yourself as beacon of truth. we know you consider yourself as the only objective fan here, you already told us what you think of yourself more then once, so we get it, no need to repeat it on every thread. I think there is 10% objective fans on here, and 90% Jokic stans. That's how I feel. I also don't think more than half of the people posting on here are actual Nuggets fans. If Jokic went to Indiana for example, they'd follow him there. That's how I feel and that bothers me. Also you and Lothar very rarely post in game threads. When you read the game threads from this series there's a lot of talking about how bad Murray is playing and a lot of excuse making for Jokic. That's the facts. |
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Post by rock on Apr 30, 2024 16:18:58 GMT -5
This is how 90% of the posters post on this board in every game thread: Make every single excuse for Jokic when he's not playing at an elite level aka team isn't giving him the ball, teammates are letting him down, he's pacing himself, he'll turn it on late. Tear down Jamal and complain that he is forcing shots, turning the ball over, not giving the ball to Jokic, trying to be the superstar, thinking he's better than Jokic etc. I'm literally the only person on this board who will call out Jokic AND Murray when they're playing poorly. Basically no one calls out Jokic when he plays poorly and it's bullshit. That Lakers series was the worst he's played in a series since the bubble. Don't care what the stats say. Jimijam is literally calling out Jokic only few pages ago. there are posters like Lothar who are known for not calling out players, ever. there is rock who also isn't calling out any player in name, he likes calling out Nuggets organization as whole. Im pretty sure he doesn't even know who plays for Nuggets, cause as long as he can predict doomsday, he is happy I also dont call out players often. It happens from time to time, but I can guarantee Jokic is the guy I called out most. etc, etc... so can you please stop projecting yourself as beacon of truth. we know you consider yourself as the only objective fan here, you already told us what you think of yourself more then once, so we get it, no need to repeat it on every thread. Hey I can name at least 7 nuggets. Maybe 8 Jokes aside you are right my biggest complaint was always management and ownership more than players and coaches. I never wanted malone fired but did want to get rid of TC |
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Post by AbdulJabber on Apr 30, 2024 18:23:44 GMT -5
I thought Jok and Murray were great in this series. The problem was outside shooting and it's something that could continue to make life much harder on us.
Outside of porter, we were 33/131 and those were almost all quality shots. That isn't good enough.
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 30, 2024 19:28:15 GMT -5
Supposedly this is the schedule for the Semis. Off until Saturday would be a nice little break.  All the people talking about resting starters and stuff. Like I get if a guy like Murray who was injured, but they have a 4 day break till they play and another 3 day break in that schedule. If we don't make the Finals or win it it's not cause we weren't rested enough. If we don't win it, it's going to be exactly because of the tired legs. We're the best team in the NBA and we can only lose a series because of that reason. Both Murray and Jokic are scoring harder than the rest of the league and they're not as athletic as some other players. They're durable but they just need little bit more rest than the rest of the league. Last year was a blue print how to win it all. |
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Post by passtheballquick on Apr 30, 2024 19:41:02 GMT -5
Jimijam is literally calling out Jokic only few pages ago. there are posters like Lothar who are known for not calling out players, ever. there is rock who also isn't calling out any player in name, he likes calling out Nuggets organization as whole. Im pretty sure he doesn't even know who plays for Nuggets, cause as long as he can predict doomsday, he is happy I also dont call out players often. It happens from time to time, but I can guarantee Jokic is the guy I called out most. etc, etc... so can you please stop projecting yourself as beacon of truth. we know you consider yourself as the only objective fan here, you already told us what you think of yourself more then once, so we get it, no need to repeat it on every thread. I think there is 10% objective fans on here, and 90% Jokic stans. That's how I feel. I also don't think more than half of the people posting on here are actual Nuggets fans. If Jokic went to Indiana for example, they'd follow him there. That's how I feel and that bothers me. Also you and Lothar very rarely post in game threads. When you read the game threads from this series there's a lot of talking about how bad Murray is playing and a lot of excuse making for Jokic. That's the facts. You're calling out Jokic for a loss on a night where he goes 33/14/14/1/1 with 50%fg and 40% from 3 and not Murray for example, who goes 9 for 23 and 0% from 3 with 5A/4TO's. That makes you like a troll and it bothers some people on this board. With takes like that your credibility gets questionable and people react lol. |
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Apr 30, 2024 20:44:31 GMT -5
Thinking Basketball has a nice watchalong vid on games 2 and 5: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWXkhEUSVRUI love the stat near the end: the Nuggets are 54-7 at home with this starting lineup in the last 2 years. This is a home-court juggernaut. |
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Post by Ring on Apr 30, 2024 21:37:49 GMT -5
I think there is 10% objective fans on here, and 90% Jokic stans. That's how I feel. I also don't think more than half of the people posting on here are actual Nuggets fans. If Jokic went to Indiana for example, they'd follow him there. That's how I feel and that bothers me. Also you and Lothar very rarely post in game threads. When you read the game threads from this series there's a lot of talking about how bad Murray is playing and a lot of excuse making for Jokic. That's the facts. You're calling out Jokic for a loss on a night where he goes 33/14/14/1/1 with 50%fg and 40% from 3 and not Murray for example, who goes 9 for 23 and 0% from 3 with 5A/4TO's. That makes you like a troll and it bothers some people on this board. With takes like that your credibility gets questionable and people react lol. Jokic played like s**t in the 1st half of that game and his energy and defense in the series was bad. Going into Game 5 Murrays +/- was 3 points worse than Jokic (both were +) They play a lot of minutes together but Murray also plays more minutes with the bench unit. Also, I complained a ton about Murray in Games 1-3. He made really bad decisions with the ball. But he was always aggressive. That's what Jokic needs to be. When you have Austin Reaves posted up, you go score. You don't wait for a double or survey the floor. You attack. Both Murray and Jokic played their worst playoff series since the bubble IMO |
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Post by Ring on Apr 30, 2024 21:38:17 GMT -5
Thinking Basketball has a nice watchalong vid on games 2 and 5: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWXkhEUSVRUI love the stat near the end: the Nuggets are 54-7 at home with this starting lineup in the last 2 years. This is a home-court juggernaut. Ben Taylor is fantastic. |
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Post by freakns on May 1, 2024 3:48:48 GMT -5
I think there is 10% objective fans on here, and 90% Jokic stans. That's how I feel. I also don't think more than half of the people posting on here are actual Nuggets fans. If Jokic went to Indiana for example, they'd follow him there. That's how I feel and that bothers me. Also you and Lothar very rarely post in game threads. When you read the game threads from this series there's a lot of talking about how bad Murray is playing and a lot of excuse making for Jokic. That's the facts. You're calling out Jokic for a loss on a night where he goes 33/14/14/1/1 with 50%fg and 40% from 3 and not Murray for example, who goes 9 for 23 and 0% from 3 with 5A/4TO's. That makes you like a troll and it bothers some people on this board. With takes like that your credibility gets questionable and people react lol. there is so much more that goes into game of basketball then simple stats. last night Embiid went 19/16/10/1/4 and almost beat Philly on his own. Yes, Philly, not NY, its not a typo. He was hunting fouls on offense, no attacks on the rim, stagnated offense cause he gets the ball and pump fakes for 8 seconds... got passed by Brunson 3-4 times in a row for easy layups, before he finally figure out he aint shooting jumpshot, so he was ready for a drive and blocked him. etc, etc... now, in a same time, he was +14 cause Philly cant play without him. there is a hole size of Mexico in their paint when Embiid isn't on, and regardless of his antics, he does draw so much attention, it gives space to others, including Maxey. Jokic has same effect, so even when he plays bad, he is still drawing enough defenders, it opens up a lane for others. on that loss he didn't play good though. despite his 14 rebounds, AD got 23 of those. thats because Jokic was lazy. in last game for example, two most important offenses. first one, he gives hand off to KCP, rolls so he left DLo behind, set him self in position where AD has to guard both him and KCP, and only when AD contest KCP he is getting under the rim while boxing out DLo in same time. offensive rebound, easy bucket. second one is ofc last bucket. simple pnr, but Davis has to stay on Jokic cause he was crushing the basket whole 4th quarter, so he cant commit on Jamal, which gives Jamal more then enough space to shoot open one footer. not an easy shot, but its open, and Jamal can hit that more times then not. Jokic being aggressive whole 4th quarter essentially gave Jamal open shot on last possession. Jokic not being aggressive, Lakers defend that totally differently. oh, and the game in question, both Jamal and Jokic were pretty bad. whole team outside of MPJ was bad. but I understand. believe it or not, Nuggets-Lakers series has highest pace of all the playoff series. and its pretty darn physical. both teams were tired as hell after 3 games, so I think Nuggets punted that one once they saw Lakers are going to fight. and if they were healthy, game 5 would be much much easier... |
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Post by duh88 on May 1, 2024 4:38:44 GMT -5
I’m with ring -
In terms of what jokic can give you - he played like garbage. He was coasting and preserving energy tho (which I actually like.
We got the win in 5 - I’m beyond pleased.
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Post by AbdulJabber on May 1, 2024 5:46:05 GMT -5
Jok's mentioned the horse racing analogy a couple times now. I think that was his strategy for that series and maybe for the playoffs as a whole this year. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. We won the series in 5 games, which is good enough.
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Post by passtheballquick on May 1, 2024 14:33:52 GMT -5
Jokic is the best and the smartest player in the league and the way how he sees the game and how the other people think he should've played is like comparing mice and bears where the mice are some of the NT members lol
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Post by passtheballquick on May 1, 2024 14:37:29 GMT -5
You're calling out Jokic for a loss on a night where he goes 33/14/14/1/1 with 50%fg and 40% from 3 and not Murray for example, who goes 9 for 23 and 0% from 3 with 5A/4TO's. That makes you like a troll and it bothers some people on this board. With takes like that your credibility gets questionable and people react lol. there is so much more that goes into game of basketball then simple stats. last night Embiid went 19/16/10/1/4 and almost beat Philly on his own. Yes, Philly, not NY, its not a typo. He was hunting fouls on offense, no attacks on the rim, stagnated offense cause he gets the ball and pump fakes for 8 seconds... got passed by Brunson 3-4 times in a row for easy layups, before he finally figure out he aint shooting jumpshot, so he was ready for a drive and blocked him. etc, etc... now, in a same time, he was +14 cause Philly cant play without him. there is a hole size of Mexico in their paint when Embiid isn't on, and regardless of his antics, he does draw so much attention, it gives space to others, including Maxey. Jokic has same effect, so even when he plays bad, he is still drawing enough defenders, it opens up a lane for others. on that loss he didn't play good though. despite his 14 rebounds, AD got 23 of those. thats because Jokic was lazy. in last game for example, two most important offenses. first one, he gives hand off to KCP, rolls so he left DLo behind, set him self in position where AD has to guard both him and KCP, and only when AD contest KCP he is getting under the rim while boxing out DLo in same time. offensive rebound, easy bucket. second one is ofc last bucket. simple pnr, but Davis has to stay on Jokic cause he was crushing the basket whole 4th quarter, so he cant commit on Jamal, which gives Jamal more then enough space to shoot open one footer. not an easy shot, but its open, and Jamal can hit that more times then not. Jokic being aggressive whole 4th quarter essentially gave Jamal open shot on last possession. Jokic not being aggressive, Lakers defend that totally differently. oh, and the game in question, both Jamal and Jokic were pretty bad. whole team outside of MPJ was bad. but I understand. believe it or not, Nuggets-Lakers series has highest pace of all the playoff series. and its pretty darn physical. both teams were tired as hell after 3 games, so I think Nuggets punted that one once they saw Lakers are going to fight. and if they were healthy, game 5 would be much much easier... Really? Just comparing those 2 games are telling me that there is much more that goes into the bb games that you actually don't see. Otherwise under no circumstances you would use last night Embiid's game for any type of comparison |
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Post by Ring on May 1, 2024 15:41:39 GMT -5
Jokic is the best and the smartest player in the league and the way how he sees the game and how the other people think he should've played is like comparing mice and bears where the mice are some of the NT members lol But what if the Nuggets lost Game 5. Would that have made Jokics approach smart? |
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Post by passtheballquick on May 1, 2024 20:08:35 GMT -5
Jokic is the best and the smartest player in the league and the way how he sees the game and how the other people think he should've played is like comparing mice and bears where the mice are some of the NT members lol But what if the Nuggets lost Game 5. Would that have made Jokics approach smart? He had a wired game 5 but playing against AD 5 games in a row takes a tall on you. The entire conversation was about game 4 where Jokic earned 0 blame for that loss |
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