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Post by Dante on Mar 21, 2024 22:09:06 GMT -5
Jokic is the real coach of this team, best rebounder, best scorer, best playmaker, leads the team in every single advanced stat, best clutch player in the NBA by far.
He is our Sun, Moon and Universe. If someone thinks otherwise go back to Melo era of isolation basketball.
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Post by Ring on Mar 21, 2024 22:09:23 GMT -5
Hilarious that people are saying Jokic is the whole team on a night where Murray and MPJ both have 20. MPJ literally has 26 points on 13 shots. We saw what it looked like when Jokic was the whole team. The Nuggets got swept by the Suns and lost in 5 to GS. Murray is 9/19 shooting with a 3:3 assist:turnover ratio tonight. Not the night to be trying to pretend he's played great. OK, now do MPJ. Jokic gets all the credit in wins and zero blame in losses.
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Post by famicommander on Mar 21, 2024 22:10:47 GMT -5
Murray is 9/19 shooting with a 3:3 assist:turnover ratio tonight. Not the night to be trying to pretend he's played great. OK, now do MPJ. Jokic gets all the credit in wins and zero blame in losses. MPJ has played great. The issue is you trying to lump Murray in with how Joker and MPJ have played tonight. You have your agenda and it's very transparent.
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Post by Ring on Mar 21, 2024 22:12:30 GMT -5
OK, now do MPJ. Jokic gets all the credit in wins and zero blame in losses. MPJ has played great. The issue is you trying to lump Murray in with how Joker and MPJ have played tonight. You have your agenda and it's very transparent. My agenda is that Murray is f***ing awesome and has been post All Star. Yet in every thread people b***h and complain about him. The guy is playing a good chunk of his minutes with 3 non-scorers/creators at all time. His efficiency is going to suffer from it. Nobody ever gives him credit for leading a bench unit that was a net + post All Star though?
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Post by famicommander on Mar 21, 2024 22:13:42 GMT -5
MPJ has played great. The issue is you trying to lump Murray in with how Joker and MPJ have played tonight. You have your agenda and it's very transparent. My agenda is that Murray is f***ing awesome and has been post All Star. Yet in every thread people b***h and complain about him. The guy is playing a good chunk of his minutes with 3 non-scorers/creators at all time. His efficiency is going to suffer from it. Nobody ever gives him credit for leading a bench unit that was a net + post All Star though? You spend about 75% of your time whining about Jokic and he's played great about 95% of the time for the last seven years in a row. It's okay to admit Murray hasn't had a great game.
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 21, 2024 22:13:43 GMT -5
Hilarious that people are saying Jokic is the whole team on a night where Murray and MPJ both have 20. MPJ literally has 26 points on 13 shots. We saw what it looked like when Jokic was the whole team. The Nuggets got swept by the Suns and lost in 5 to GS. It's not hilarious it's true. Jokic +24, Murray 0. It would have been the same if Mike plays with the bench. On the other side Prime Jordan and LBJ together would get swept in the second round playing with Facu, Barton and Morris. But you're blind to see it
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Post by Ring on Mar 21, 2024 22:15:24 GMT -5
My agenda is that Murray is f***ing awesome and has been post All Star. Yet in every thread people b***h and complain about him. The guy is playing a good chunk of his minutes with 3 non-scorers/creators at all time. His efficiency is going to suffer from it. Nobody ever gives him credit for leading a bench unit that was a net + post All Star though? You spend about 75% of your time whining about Jokic and he's played great about 95% of the time for the last seven years in a row. It's okay to admit Murray hasn't had a great game. I only whine about Jokic when he doesn't play to his standards which is fair IMO. He gets treated like every other all time great to ever play the game. Murray hasn't had a great game but he's been good. Post All Star he's been great and overall this season he's been great. Nuggets don't win a ring if you replace Murray with any PG in the NBA not named Steph.
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Post by famicommander on Mar 21, 2024 22:16:12 GMT -5
You spend about 75% of your time whining about Jokic and he's played great about 95% of the time for the last seven years in a row. It's okay to admit Murray hasn't had a great game. I only whine about Jokic when he doesn't play to his standards You can say this all you want but it's simply not true. You have your own imaginary standards and you're often watching an entirely different game than everyone else here.
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Post by Ring on Mar 21, 2024 22:16:13 GMT -5
Hilarious that people are saying Jokic is the whole team on a night where Murray and MPJ both have 20. MPJ literally has 26 points on 13 shots. We saw what it looked like when Jokic was the whole team. The Nuggets got swept by the Suns and lost in 5 to GS. It's not hilarious it's true. Jokic +24, Murray 0. It would have been the same if Mike plays with the bench. On the other side Prime Jordan and LBJ together would get swept in the second round playing with Facu, Barton and Morris. But you're blind to see it Murray plays a lot of his minutes with Christian Braun, Peyton Watson and DJ. Jokic plays most of his minutes with Murray, KCP, MPJ and AG. Murray is basically being asked to carry a Facu/Barton/Monte group. It's nearly impossible.
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Post by JB on Mar 21, 2024 22:16:40 GMT -5
I refuse to join the Murray/Jokic civil war.
I love em bof. we need to focus our vitriol where it belongs: AC jr aka Reggie.
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Post by Ring on Mar 21, 2024 22:17:46 GMT -5
I only whine about Jokic when he doesn't play to his standards You can say this all you want but it's simply not true. You have your own imaginary standards and you're often watching an entirely different game than everyone else here. No, I just am the only person on here who ever says a negative thing about Jokic. When Jokic plays like he doesn't care about scoring, I complain as any Nuggets fan should. He's the best and most efficient scorer on the team. It would be like people not complaining about MPJ turning down 10 open 3s in a game. It's been like this forever when in reality I called Jokic being a superstar all the way back in 2017.
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Post by Dante on Mar 21, 2024 22:18:05 GMT -5
When you have 10 eyes and 2-3 bodies glued at Jokic on every single offensive possession it's easy for every shooter to increase his shooting % by 5% in average (evidence in stats). Gordon went from trash to almost an all star last year playing with Jokic lol...
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Post by famicommander on Mar 21, 2024 22:19:44 GMT -5
You can say this all you want but it's simply not true. You have your own imaginary standards and you're often watching an entirely different game than everyone else here. No, I just am the only person on here who ever says a negative thing about Jokic. When Jokic plays like he doesn't care about scoring, I complain as any Nuggets fan should. He's the best and most efficient scorer on the team. It would be like people not complaining about MPJ turning down 10 open 3s in a game. It's been like this forever when in reality I called Jokic being a superstar all the way back in 2017. Joker is having a 30 point triple double with no turnovers as we speak and you're on here whining that Jamal isn't getting as much credit for his 45% FG night with 4 assists and 3 TOs (including that sweet pass to AG as I type this).
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Post by Ring on Mar 21, 2024 22:19:55 GMT -5
I refuse to join the Murray/Jokic civil war. I love em bof. we need to focus our vitriol where it belongs: AC jr aka Reggie. True but it's bullshit that people still take Murray for granted after everything he's done for this franchise. Jokics entire career looks different if not for Murray. 1st round exit against the Spurs. 1st round exit against Utah in the bubble. Don't beat LAL last year without him. It's just bullshit that a ton of people on here are Jokic fans and not Nuggets fans. It's really hurt the board IMO because you can't have quality basketball conversations anymore.
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Post by passtheballquick on Mar 21, 2024 22:20:30 GMT -5
Murray with starters >>>>>>
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Post by Ring on Mar 21, 2024 22:20:55 GMT -5
No, I just am the only person on here who ever says a negative thing about Jokic. When Jokic plays like he doesn't care about scoring, I complain as any Nuggets fan should. He's the best and most efficient scorer on the team. It would be like people not complaining about MPJ turning down 10 open 3s in a game. It's been like this forever when in reality I called Jokic being a superstar all the way back in 2017. Joker is having a 30 point triple double with no turnovers as we speak and you're on here whining that Jamal isn't getting as much credit for his 45% FG night with 4 assists and 3 TOs (including that sweet pass to AG as I type this). I have complained about Jokic zero times tonight because he's been great. However I do think it's pathetic that people give Jokic 100% of the credit tonight when MPJ has been all time great tonight. Murray has been very good too. MPJ literally has 30/8 on 81% shooting.
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Post by jimijam28 on Mar 21, 2024 22:21:10 GMT -5
murray hurt- thanks ring
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Post by Dante on Mar 21, 2024 22:21:14 GMT -5
Jamal with yet another stupid play in the clutch, up by 12, going headless solo in transition, risking injury...
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Post by Ring on Mar 21, 2024 22:21:23 GMT -5
Murray with starters >>>>>> Best unit in the league. Might be time to put him in bubble wrap though.
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Post by Ring on Mar 21, 2024 22:21:45 GMT -5
Blame Malone we were up 12 with 1 minute to go!
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