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Post by JB on Mar 10, 2024 0:22:19 GMT -5
GBG's favorite stat has Reggie at 0.58 ws/48
just for a point of reference, Facu's first season with the Nuggets was .105 ws/48 and his second season was .081 ws/48
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Post by GBG on Mar 10, 2024 0:23:06 GMT -5
And how do you know Reggie is making threes and scoring UNLESS YOU PLAY HIM? He ain’t getting removed from playoff rotation, because Malone believes in one PG on floor at all times, if not two. because he's been abysmal offensively since the start of the New Year and I don't see why that is going to change. how often do washed players unwash themselves? It was literally Reggie who unwashed himself for much of this season before this shooting slump. He is likely to unwash himself again. Or do you not know his track record of playing above his RS level in postseason. Look it up. |
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Post by JB on Mar 10, 2024 0:26:52 GMT -5
I'll end the night on a optimistic note, I certainly wish he can pull a rabbit out of the hat and reverse the clock to his younger self. here's hoping.
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Post by LotharBraunBrownBryant on Mar 10, 2024 10:58:18 GMT -5
I suggested this on reddit and someone came through for me: streamable.com/sx6cdwAaron Gordon ft Ludacris |
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Post by JB on Mar 10, 2024 11:41:57 GMT -5
I very much enjoyed seeing AG knock down various Jazzmen like bowling pins, even though AG would probably object to the music choice as he's a more "smoke a bowl and listen to nerdrap like JPEGMafia or MF Doom" guy.
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Post by scooter on Mar 10, 2024 12:39:08 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone including Michael Malone needs — or even necessarily can — decide now who should or will be playing 2 months from now. I do think Jackson should stay in the rotation as long as he’s healthy to take some ball handling pressure off of Murray, whose workload has been getting sky high. If its the playoffs and they’re cutting the rotation down to 7 1/2 guys or such, Malone can re-visit who gives the team the best chance to win, taking everything into account including player’s health and matchup issues.
For now, I’d prefer keeping Jackson in the rotation just to try to get/keep him sharp and to build a bit more chemistry with other guys and continue ramping up his knowledge of what the Nuggets run and how they run it. That stuff doesn’t get perfected overnight or even in 6 months.
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Post by JB on Mar 10, 2024 12:58:16 GMT -5
yes, I'm talking exclusively about the playoffs. obviously you want to lessen Murray's workload as much as possible in the regular season so he can do Murray things in the playoffs.
I just don't see a redemption arc for Jackson in the playoffs. the man is a 34 year old, 12 year vet with a metric-ton of mileage accumulated carrying Piston and Clipper teams for many years. he wasn't Pat Bev, playing a bit role barking at the other teams top guard or "fake hustling", as Westbrook aptly put it. No, he was an starting PG with lead guard duties. and his decline reflects that.
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Post by famicommander on Mar 10, 2024 13:39:04 GMT -5
Remember how literally every one of us last year wanted Jeff Green out of the playoff rotation and then he played fine in the playoffs?
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Post by JB on Mar 10, 2024 13:47:21 GMT -5
Uncle Jeff always managed to make himself useful and could always fallback on his neverending athleticism to produce opportunities. I was quite happy to have him, even though I hated him as a backup 5 --- on that point, I concede I was wrong.
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Post by GBG on Mar 10, 2024 14:44:58 GMT -5
Uncle Jeff always managed to make himself useful and could always fallback on his neverending athleticism to produce opportunities. I was quite happy to have him, even though I hated him as a backup 5 --- on that point, I concede I was wrong. Wrong about what? In the 2023 postseason, Uncle Jeff had a PER of 6.8 and a WS/48 of .078 which is horrid for a backup 4/5. BTW, AG was backup 5 while Green was mainly a 4. As for your earlier whine about Reggie’s .058 WS/48 this season, it isn’t as damaging for a backup PG whose major job is to handle the ball, bring it up court, and get it into Jokic’s hands. Reggie won’t be asked to be lead guard for the bench unit. Murray is gonna likely stagger again to run the bench, with Reggie playing only with Jokic, unless an injury happens. Back to Green, he was the Forrest Gump of our championship team postseason rotation and should not have been preferred to Cancar. But it is what it is. He took a few charges and was a veteran leader with all the veteraniness that entailed. He did have 31 rebounds in 343 playoff minutes, though. I think Reggie might be able to have more than 3 boards per 36. |
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Post by scooter on Mar 10, 2024 17:27:32 GMT -5
I thought Green did his job in the playoffs and that’s all we needed. He didn’t do it great, but he did it. His effectiveness varied, but he did some dirty work, spent some time defending very strong guys like KAT and Lebron, hit a few shots and drew a few charges, and it was enough of a contribution to get the job done. I’m not convinced the Nuggets had anyone on the bench who would have been more effective overall.
The team will probably need Jackson some in the playoffs, although how much might depend on the matchup. Right now, it doesn’t seem like he’s earning the right to be in the foxhole with the guys, but that could change and we also don’t see what’s what behind the scenes.
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Post by GBG on Mar 10, 2024 18:59:39 GMT -5
I thought Green did his job in the playoffs and that’s all we needed. He didn’t do it great, but he did it. His effectiveness varied, but he did some dirty work, spent some time defending very strong guys like KAT and Lebron, hit a few shots and drew a few charges, and it was enough of a contribution to get the job done. I’m not convinced the Nuggets had anyone on the bench who would have been more effective overall. The team will probably need Jackson some in the playoffs, although how much might depend on the matchup. Right now, it doesn’t seem like he’s earning the right to be in the foxhole with the guys, but that could change and we also don’t see what’s what behind the scenes. Green was adequate, and that didn’t prevent us from winning our first chip. The charges taken were fine, but less than 3 rebounds per 36 was not. I would venture a guess than Cancar could have doubled that rebound rate. Even Zeke might have been able to, but Green was the safe pick for Malone, and it didn’t cost us a title. |
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Post by duh88 on Mar 10, 2024 20:15:08 GMT -5
Ummmm.... Green was a f***ing badass in the playoffs. That dude coasted during the regular season to conserve energy, and then went full blast during the playoffs.
How many knockdown 3's did Uncle hit during those playoffs? Many came at the Staples Center, in unfriendly confines.
In regard to Reggie - I really do think we're seeing Reggie fade due to age - but - that guy always finds another gear in the playoffs. I'm optimistic he'll be solid in the playoffs.
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Post by famicommander on Mar 10, 2024 20:22:52 GMT -5
Ummmm.... Green was a f***ing badass in the playoffs. That dude coasted during the regular season to conserve energy, and then went full blast during the playoffs. How many knockdown 3's did Uncle hit during those playoffs? Many came at the Staples Center, in unfriendly confines.In regard to Reggie - I really do think we're seeing Reggie fade due to age - but - that guy always finds another gear in the playoffs. I'm optimistic he'll be solid in the playoffs. He literally hit one 3 at Staples in the playoffs. He was 9/28 for the whole playoff run. |
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Post by GBG on Mar 10, 2024 20:54:41 GMT -5
Ummmm.... Green was a f***ing badass in the playoffs. That dude coasted during the regular season to conserve energy, and then went full blast during the playoffs. How many knockdown 3's did Uncle hit during those playoffs? Many came at the Staples Center, in unfriendly confines.In regard to Reggie - I really do think we're seeing Reggie fade due to age - but - that guy always finds another gear in the playoffs. I'm optimistic he'll be solid in the playoffs. He literally hit one 3 at Staples in the playoffs. He was 9/28 for the whole playoff run. It’s the IDEA of Green that fans love in the playoffs, not the reality. Don’t break their bubbles! 🤣 |
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Post by famicommander on Mar 10, 2024 20:56:15 GMT -5
I said he was fine and I stand by that take. Not bad, not particularly good, but fine. Adequate to the task.
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Post by GBG on Mar 10, 2024 21:00:12 GMT -5
I said he was fine and I stand by that take. Not bad, not particularly good, but fine. Adequate to the task. Agreed. As I said to scooter, he was adequate. |
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Post by sawyeral on Mar 11, 2024 14:35:24 GMT -5
I don't because the only real options you're going to have then are running DHOs with guys who aren't that comfortable running them or Jokic post ups where he's going to be doubled. Realistically Reggie has to give you 4-6 minutes per half. I think he can do that without being a disaster. He was +8 tonight lol you could run AG/Joker 2MG. you could survive those 4 minutes per half if you're stopping the other team from scoring. Reggie is not worth a rotation spot in the playoffs unless he's contributing offensively. Reggie will have to play. AG/Jokic as the starting action would have to be AG as the high screener. If they slow down the roll action (like Miami does with sneaky physicality), combined with AG having no mid range game, it’s a muddy 4 minutes. Murray/Jokic works so well because either can be the ball handler to start, both are deadly from the mid range, and both are excellent passers in a crowd. AG and Jokic pnr usually works in spots when AG slips free with a head of steam toward the basket. |
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