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Post by jimijam28 on Jan 20, 2024 19:18:35 GMT -5
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Post by duh88 on Jan 20, 2024 20:21:45 GMT -5
After last season I thought the Celtics should have traded Brown and instead they traded Smart. I continue to not think very highly of Brown. For you fellas complaining about the $$$ Gordon earns, how would you feel about having Brown making an average of $58 mil (minimum) per season for the 5 seasons from 2024 to 2029? It seems that Brownâs efficiency always declines (and his turnovers usually incline) when the games get tough. Yet he still wants to take a lot of shots. And playing forward in last nightâs game he had all of 2 rebounds. Iâve long had the impression that he thinks heâs a star player â and admittedly he has a contract thatâs consistent with that â when he should be trying to be a great role player. Maybe he proves me wrong this postseason, but itâll be interesting to see. Part of the issue is that the eastern conference has a dearth, in terms of overall talent. So - youâre going to have players there elevated higher than they should be, as a result of easy competition. But the Câs FO was stupid - should have offered brown a regular max, and dare him to find better - no team would pay brown a super.
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Post by scooter on Jan 21, 2024 14:55:10 GMT -5
After last season I thought the Celtics should have traded Brown and instead they traded Smart. I continue to not think very highly of Brown. For you fellas complaining about the $$$ Gordon earns, how would you feel about having Brown making an average of $58 mil (minimum) per season for the 5 seasons from 2024 to 2029? It seems that Brownâs efficiency always declines (and his turnovers usually incline) when the games get tough. Yet he still wants to take a lot of shots. And playing forward in last nightâs game he had all of 2 rebounds. Iâve long had the impression that he thinks heâs a star player â and admittedly he has a contract thatâs consistent with that â when he should be trying to be a great role player. Maybe he proves me wrong this postseason, but itâll be interesting to see. Part of the issue is that the eastern conference has a dearth, in terms of overall talent. So - youâre going to have players there elevated higher than they should be, as a result of easy competition. But the Câs FO was stupid - should have offered brown a regular max, and dare him to find better - no team would pay brown a super. Isnât the âsupermaxâ (35% of cap) triggered as a consequence of the CBA, with Brown making the all-NBA 2nd team? I guess the Celtics had the option of offering something less, but it seems that never happens.
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Post by duh88 on Jan 21, 2024 19:04:31 GMT -5
They should have offered something less. Maybe Iâm missing something but I donât see any teams offering Jaylen a super max on an open market.
FOâs need to have a larger spine. The super max is meant for players like jokic, where every team will literally offer it.
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Post by JB on Jan 21, 2024 22:58:40 GMT -5
supermaxing a player who was just exposed in the playoffs for his lack of dribble which even had Celtic superfans Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo publicly disowning Brown as a fake second option is just financial malpractice. what leverage did Brown have after getting outplayed by Duncan f***ing Robinson?
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Post by duh88 on Jan 22, 2024 0:02:29 GMT -5
supermaxing a player who was just exposed in the playoffs for his lack of dribble which even had Celtic superfans Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo publicly disowning Brown as a fake second option is just financial malpractice. what leverage did Brown have after getting outplayed by Duncan f***ing Robinson? At least one NBA FO, for whatever reason, usually has to f**k up catastrophically in order for all other FO's to learn the lesson. I mean - Remember when the Lakers gave Mozgov like a $25 million per year contract? Eventually, an eastern team will have a supermax player, that they refuse to give a supermax to - and that will set the standard. Until then, we will have a slew of Gobert's and Jaylen's - and probably 1 or 2 more until the lesson is pronounced.
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Post by scooter on Jan 22, 2024 13:28:45 GMT -5
supermaxing a player who was just exposed in the playoffs for his lack of dribble which even had Celtic superfans Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo publicly disowning Brown as a fake second option is just financial malpractice. what leverage did Brown have after getting outplayed by Duncan f***ing Robinson? I agree its a lousy situation for the Celtics, but it seems that it (technically the Designated Veteran Extension) is done basically 100% of the time. Towns got the same deal in 2022 â the only difference is that his deal is 4 years as opposed to 5 for Brown. Since Brown has been durable and isnât a headcase, the Celtics FO presumably believes he could be traded for value notwithstanding the sticker price.
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Post by JB on Jan 22, 2024 14:23:38 GMT -5
it would be extremely difficult to match the 60+m in salary JB will soon command. I can't imagine a team that is primed to compete and *theoretically* views JB as the missing piece could withstand such a massive gutting of their core salaries. it only makes sense to trade him for a fellow supermax player, and they're not getting JB for a Luka type player even if Luka asks out. teams in that position almost always ask for multiple picks and young pieces on rookie salaries, they don't aspire to be an even more depressing version of the current day Nets.
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Post by passtheballquick on Jan 22, 2024 14:44:55 GMT -5
JB's contract will end up being as twice as bad as Wiggins's contract. Teams will stay away from him. The other thing is that Joker and Murray will play for the Nuggets the next 5-6 years so no matter what teams do they won't win it. It'll be better for them to keep picks so they have a chance when our duo retires
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Post by jimijam28 on Jan 22, 2024 15:11:29 GMT -5
supermaxing a player who was just exposed in the playoffs for his lack of dribble which even had Celtic superfans Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo publicly disowning Brown as a fake second option is just financial malpractice. what leverage did Brown have after getting outplayed by Duncan f***ing Robinson? At least one NBA FO, for whatever reason, usually has to f**k up catastrophically in order for all other FO's to learn the lesson. I mean - Remember when the Lakers gave Mozgov like a $25 million per year contract? Eventually, an eastern team will have a supermax player, that they refuse to give a supermax to - and that will set the standard. Until then, we will have a slew of Gobert's and Jaylen's - and probably 1 or 2 more until the lesson is pronounced. Moz did have that historical game đ syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2025781-erroneous-graphic-shows-that-nuggets-timofey-mozgovs-huge-night-was-legendary.amp.html
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Post by BBBbbb on Jan 22, 2024 17:43:59 GMT -5
yeah but he took more than 60 FTs Embiid dreaming about that stat.
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