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Post by keke on Aug 27, 2010 0:07:19 GMT -5
melo just want to start in allstar game. he knows kevin durant will take his allstar starter spot so he decide to go to yao's team there's no other explanation
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Post by deano on Aug 27, 2010 0:10:21 GMT -5
melo will never win a ring anyway, no matter where he goes.
Bring on some young guys who still care. That whole 2003 draft lottery act like they are owed something. No respect for any of them.
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Post by ChuckTaylor on Aug 27, 2010 0:21:43 GMT -5
When the most significant acquisition in 2 years is Al f***ing Harrington and then only because the frontline is crippled from overuse it says we don't care about winning as much as we care about profit margin. Signing just means he'll have to carry a B roster 3 more years. That's what I mean by showing him the door. They have no plans to improve the talent around him so he bailed. Nothing like a billionaire several times over who's busy acquiring franchises in other sports, putting his 30 yr. old son in charge, hiring a scout as GM because he wouldn't pay market value and preaching fiscal restraint. Stan could buy and sell Cuban but Dirk stayed and Melo is leaving. Why do you think that is?
Hint: It has nothing to do with Melo or Dirk's contract
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Post by Butterman on Aug 27, 2010 0:29:42 GMT -5
that sure is exciting
if we trade with the Clips we sure as hell will get more than Damp and some crappy picks
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Post by hoophead on Aug 27, 2010 0:39:26 GMT -5
Hollinger is making stuff up. HOU is pretty far down the list of possibilities. I agree that their roster doesn't have much to get excited about. The Nuggets goal is to maximize the young talent we get back. Whatever deal that ends up being is the deal that they will likely take. Also, the Kroenke bashing is such crap. How exactly is "profit margin" your primarily motivation if there has been no profits whatsoever to maximize? Mitigating loss is more like it. Kroenke has probably lost $40-50 million in the last 5 years on this team. It's the only thing he loses money on in his entire business portfolio. It doesn't matter what your net worth is. Billionaires got that way by running companies that make profits and by being savvy with their money. Unlike guys like Dolan, Stan grew up middle class. When every dollar you lose is a dollar you made earlier, it's different. If he was running the team like Sterling, I would agree with you, but he's way more like Cuban than Sterling so get off of the guy. He's 10x the owner that Ascent, Laurie, or Sturm were or would have been. I'm sick of the constant drone that he's a cheapskate. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Post by TR Dunn23 on Aug 27, 2010 0:41:46 GMT -5
Hollinger is making stuff up. HOU is pretty far down the list of possibilities. I agree that their roster doesn't have much to get excited about. The Nuggets goal is to maximize the young talent we get back. Whatever deal that ends up being is the deal that they will likely take. Also, the Kroenke bashing is such crap. How exactly is "profit margin" your primarily motivation if there has been no profits whatsoever to maximize? Mitigating loss is more like it. Kroenke has probably lost $40-50 million in the last 5 years on this team. It's the only thing he loses money on in his entire business portfolio. It doesn't matter what your net worth is. Billionaires got that way by running companies that make profits and by being savvy with their money. Unlike guys like Dolan, Stan grew up middle class. When every dollar you lose is a dollar you made earlier, it's different. If he was running the team like Sterling, I would agree with you, but he's way more like Cuban than Sterling so get off of the guy. He's 10x the owner that Ascent, Laurie, or Sturm were or would have been. I'm sick of the constant drone that he's a cheapskate. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don't care if he's a cheapskate or not....I hope he starts a trend and basically tells Melo that he's not getting the extension and a destination of his choice.
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Post by NightHiker on Aug 27, 2010 0:44:53 GMT -5
When the most significant acquisition in 2 years is Al f***ing Harrington and then only because the frontline is crippled from overuse it says we don't care about winning as much as we care about profit margin. What profit? The Nuggets have been losing quite a bit of money every year. You mean the B roster that won over 60% of their games when he was out? That argument would work if he wanted to be traded only to a contender. When he's supposedly accepting to go to NY, NJ or Houston (and now maybe even Golden State or the Clippers), it's clear winning is not high on his list of priorities, and therefore cannot be used as an excuse for him wanting out of Denver. Whatever the real reason is, it's not Denver's commitment (or lack thereof) to winning.
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Post by jutang on Aug 27, 2010 0:59:48 GMT -5
The Nuggets better get at least 4 other teams bidding for Melo's services. If Melo gets too selective then call out his bluff and let him sweat it out as his millions of lost income become a reality. Let him really test his belief that his wife can make up the income living in a big media market.
Hard to see a player like Melo go, but he and his wife do crave the attention and denver just isn't that type of place.
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Post by Multi-Billionaire on Aug 27, 2010 1:02:15 GMT -5
Wojnarowski is rated by Hoopshype as the second highly trusted NBA source after Marc Stein (ESPN)... higher than Ric Bucher and Marc Spears.
If it comes out of Woj, it's true.
That said, give me Favors, T-Will, Devin Harris, NJ can keep their picks, and I'm good. Yeah, I want Favors more than Lopez.
We then convince Memphis to take Harris in exchange for Gasol and scrubs.
We suddenly have many trade assets in young talent, expirings, and movable salaries (Harrington).
C - Marc Gasol PF - Derrick Favors SF - Al Harrington SG - Arron Afflalo PG - Ty Lawson --- 6th - Chauncey Billups 7th - Nene 8th - Kenyon Martin 9th - J.R. Smith 10th - Chris Andersen 11th - ACeeeeeee
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Post by TR Dunn23 on Aug 27, 2010 1:02:35 GMT -5
WTF is the last thing his wife did that didn't pertain to TRL on MTV? Not sure who told her that she was any kind of a "star".
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Post by deano on Aug 27, 2010 1:03:20 GMT -5
when is Melo's 1 hour special?
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Post by NightHiker on Aug 27, 2010 1:05:27 GMT -5
when is Melo's 1 hour special? I have no idea, but it might very well be the last thing on TV LaLa ever hosts.
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Post by dbronx42 on Aug 27, 2010 1:34:05 GMT -5
when is Melo's 1 hour special? This is the thing i find hilarious... Melo probably thinks he is on the level of Lebron where everyone hinges on what he will do. I think he just sat back this summer and watched Bron, Wade, and Bosh with complete jealousy and wants his part of the attention. My dream deal is trade Melo and Jr for Brooke Lopez and Terrance Williams. That would be a sick deal IMO.
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Post by ChuckTaylor on Aug 27, 2010 1:55:00 GMT -5
C'mon HH even you lamented the cheapness of the GM decision. Yr.to yr. profit vs loss is negligible when you account for increasing franchise value. Don't act as though operating expense vs ticket revenue is all that goes into this. Whether you call it mitigating loss or not it still results in the same conservative mindset. The club has not spent enough to put the talent around him and he's bailing because of it. He would not be leaving a club he believes can be a real championship contender. It will come out that he did not believe the club is committed to spending enough to win. Melo has no reference for the franchise ownership history so the previous owners are moot in this discussion and it frankly has no relevance in the here and now. Cheap or not the focus on lowering payroll and the failure to add to the roster precipitated this. When the club is overtly about payroll it says a lot. Honestly, it's not about money for Melo since his only sure payday is with Denver. He's going against his financial interest. So what else is it? It sure as s**t ain't Lala's career. She's not even a has been at this point. It is about putting winning ahead of profit and loss. That is not happening here.
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Post by deano on Aug 27, 2010 1:58:52 GMT -5
melo has had a boatload of talent around him. He can't use that as an excuse.
Melo won't win a ring as the #1 option, it is that simple. Great to see him going and hopefully the nuggets can bring in some young guys who still care.
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Post by CSeyoum on Aug 27, 2010 4:52:19 GMT -5
And didn't the same guy (WWW) say Bosh and Bron was going to Chicago? everybody said Bosh and LeBron were going to Chicago
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Post by bigdog on Aug 27, 2010 6:55:53 GMT -5
When the most significant acquisition in 2 years is Al f***ing Harrington and then only because the frontline is crippled from overuse it says we don't care about winning as much as we care about profit margin. Signing just means he'll have to carry a B roster 3 more years. That's what I mean by showing him the door. They have no plans to improve the talent around him so he bailed. Nothing like a billionaire several times over who's busy acquiring franchises in other sports, putting his 30 yr. old son in charge, hiring a scout as GM because he wouldn't pay market value and preaching fiscal restraint. Stan could buy and sell Cuban but Dirk stayed and Melo is leaving. Why do you think that is? Hint: It has nothing to do with Melo or Dirk's contract Didn't we get an all star PG less the 2 years ago? Besides that look at the teams that Melo is willing to go to, and the honestly try to convince one of us that Melo is actually concerned most with winning. One of his teams was one of the worst teams in league history, another one is owned by a guy considered the worst owner in sports, hell if basketball was so important, why is he getting involved in a movie right now that is supposed to shoot until Nov? Shouldn't he be worried about basketball in Oct?
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 27, 2010 7:15:57 GMT -5
And didn't the same guy (WWW) say Bosh and Bron was going to Chicago? everybody said Bosh and LeBron were going to Chicago but they didn't
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Post by nuggetshipster on Aug 27, 2010 7:17:10 GMT -5
And I do not want Kevin Martin or Chris Kaman
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Post by Camby's Left Nut on Aug 27, 2010 11:04:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't be mad if we took back Kaman, if we also got the Wolves pick and another young prospect like Gordon or Aminu.
Don't really want a long term contract, but at least Kaman is talented, a big, and still pretty young. Way different than Kevin Martin.
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