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« Thread Started on May 23, 2004, 3:47pm »

nuggets interested in manu! man i would love to sign him. even more than brent barry (for age reasons). however, his price tag is gonna be big and itll cost us 2 weeks since we have to wait on the spurs decision (you know they will make us wait the entire time). but im glad we will try to sign him:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~113~2166032,00.html

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marc j. spears
Landing Ginobili will take big bucks
By Marc Spears
Denver Post Staff Writer

The Nuggets can get in the sweepstakes for San Antonio restricted free agent shooting guard Manu Ginobili. But if the Nuggets want to win it, they are going to have to dig deep in owner Stan Kroenke's wallet.

The Nuggets will be looking at several shooting guards during free agency in mid-July and will have about $20 million to spend all together.

The top free agent is obviously Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant.

Outside of Bryant, other notable projected free-agent guards include Ginobili, Dallas' Steve Nash, the Los Angeles Clippers' Quentin Richardson, Chicago's Jamal Crawford, Seattle's Brent Barry and Atlanta's Stephen Jackson.

And outside of Bryant, Ginobili is expected to rank No. 2 on the Nuggets' wish list. Why Ginobili? Well, the 6-foot-6, 205-pounder defines what the Nuggets are looking for in a strong defender who can score at shooting guard.

Defense? The Argentinian was seventh in the NBA last season in steals per game with 1.7. He also averaged 3.4 defensive rebounds.

Scorer? Ginobili averaged 12.8 points primarily off the bench last season and 13 points off the bench in 10 playoff games. He is an exciting slasher with excellent athleticism. He also scored a NBA career-high 33 on Nov. 6 against the Lakers.

Heart? To learn how big Ginobili's heart is, look no further than the 2002 World Championships in Indianapolis. He played for Argentina in a gold-medal loss to Serbia and Montenegro with a badly sprained ankle.

Big-game experience? Ginobili won an NBA championship with the Spurs in 2003 and has played in 34 playoff games during two NBA seasons. He led Argentina to a silver medal in the 2002 World Championships and a second-place finish in the 2003 FIBA Tournament of Americas to USA. While playing professionally in Italy, he also won Italian League and Euroleague championships.

Hispanic factor? Hispanics are the fastest growing race in Colorado and make up more than a third of Denver County's population.

While Nuggets forward Nene is from Brazil, he speaks Portuguese, not Spanish. Adding Ginobili would help the Nuggets tap into the coveted Hispanic market.

Ginobili is the Spurs' most popular player. Yes, bigger than all-star Tim Duncan and rising star Tony Parker. Fans have been turned away at Ginobili appearances in San Antonio because they were too crowded. But he always carries a smile, and is a media darling, too.

So what's the problem, you ask? Well, there are many issues that will come the Nuggets' way if they really want Ginobili.

Ginobili loves San Antonio and has said he would like to re-sign with the Spurs. San Antonio can match any offer sheet he signs since he is a restricted free agent. And he turns 27 on July 28.

In they sign Ginobili, the Nuggets would have to pay him Andre Miller- or Marcus Camby-type money. Possibly paying more than $7 million a year.

And in signing Camby, as expected, and Ginobili, Denver's free-agency money will be gone and future signings will be unavailable.

Is Manu worth the big contract?

For Ginobili, a team outside of San Antonio such as Denver or Utah definitely will have to give up a lot to sign him.

Expect the Nuggets to seriously consider giving up a lot for Ginobili.

and here is a spurs reporter on manu and denver:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/colum....y.f1e7eb9e.html

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Buck Harvey: Nuggets after Manu? Reason to feel better
Web Posted: 05/23/2004 12:00 AM CDT

San Antonio Express-News

Want to feel better about Tony Parker and his playoff shooting?

Jason Kidd's was worse.

Want to feel better about the news that the Nuggets will likely bid more than market value for Manu Ginobili?

Think of Kidd again.

What Kidd decided to do last summer should make the Spurs feel better. About everything right now.

There were times in the Lakers series when it was clear why the Spurs went after Kidd. When Parker started tossing airballs, couldn't the Spurs have used an All-Star point guard?

The Nets could have used one, too, against the Pistons. Kidd went scoreless in his finale, the seventh game of that series, going beyond even Parker's failures.

More telling were the details. Kidd hurt his back earlier in the series, then finished limping on a bum left knee that could require surgery.

The injury could be minor damage that can be cleaned up. Or it could be more, as this opinion from a New Jersey columnist suggests:

"This wasn't just the end of the series, but maybe the beginning of (Kidd's) body truly breaking down. It isn't far-fetched to believe that the wear and tear has been so dramatic through the years, that the hellacious way he plays basketball had to start catching up with him."

Want to feel better about Parker? At least, he's young, healthy and about $100 million less expensive.

A breaking-down Kidd will hurt the Nets on the floor, but also within the cap rules. And the Spurs would face that now had Kidd signed with the Spurs last summer. Depending on other contracts, Kidd would have either handcuffed the Spurs when trying to re-sign Ginobili or made the price too difficult to swallow.

Without Kidd, the Spurs can match any offer that Ginobili gets in July. And that's a good thing for them. According to today's Denver Post, the Nuggets are seriously interested in Ginobili and will likely go after him with their vast amount of cap room.

The Nuggets also have interest in Kobe Bryant. But when July 15 comes around and Bryant is still in court, what's Plan B?

The Nuggets already have a point guard who can score (Andre Miller) and a small forward who can do even more (Carmelo Anthony). What they need is a guard with size who can work between them, set up either and play defense.

Or, Ginobili.

The Nuggets would also be weakening a conference opponent at the same time. And even if the Spurs match the offer, the Nuggets would be forcing an opponent to pump more money into one player.

But the scary reality for the Spurs — the one that makes this bidding war probable — is the free-agent pool. After Bryant, there aren't many big guards to choose from. Ginobili is arguably the next best.

Denver, with money to spend, also will understand that it needs to overpay in order to get the Spurs to pass. So, don't be surprised if the Nuggets offer what they did the year before when they took Miller from the Clippers.

Miller then got a contract worth $51.2 million over six years, and that's what Ginobili was talking about last week.

Then he said he wanted to stay in San Antonio. "But you never know," he added. "This is the NBA."

The Spurs love Ginobili, naturally. But they also wonder how his production grades out within a payroll. How much is a 13-point scorer worth in this league?

This one is worth more than the numbers suggest. Ginobili is at times the second-best Spur, and he's often the toughest.

His popularity should figure into this, too. The number of Ginobili jerseys on fans tells of that.

He isn't worth enough to be traded even for Tracy McGrady. The Magic would want more and would get it from another team, and there's another reason this won't happen: McGrady can say he wants to go to one of four teams, but it's not his call.

So, free agency is the more probable way that Ginobili leaves San Antonio. And if Kidd were here, limping into the summer, his 31-year-old knee and young contract hanging over this franchise?

Ginobili would be heading to Denver.

Feel better?